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Apple reported a tough December quarter on Thursday, including the company’s biggest quarterly revenue decline since 2016, along with sales drops in its iPhone, Mac and wearables businesses.

At first, investors didn’t like the results, with Apple shares dropping as much as 4% in extended trading.

But the stock had a brief rally after Chief Financial Officer Luca Maestri started to give data points on a call with analysts, suggesting Apple’s performance will get better during the current quarter even if overall sales will still be down from last year.

The tech giant hasn’t provided guidance since the start of the pandemic. But its data points — or “directional insights,” as management calls it — allow analysts covering the stock to get a sense of how the company is doing and update their models.

Here’s how Apple’s forward-looking statements on Thursday break down.

“For iPhone, we expect our March quarter year-over-year revenue performance to accelerate relative to the December quarter year-over-year revenue performance,” Maestri said. “This represents an acceleration in our underlying year-over-year business performance, as the December quarter benefited from an extra week.”

The iPhone is Apple’s biggest product segment by far, amounting for 56% of sales in the most recent quarter. Apple said on Thursday that iPhone sales had declined over 8% year over year. But Maestri’s comment suggests they won’t continue to fall as quickly in the March quarter.

Management said one reason for the drop in November and December was that it couldn’t make enough high-end iPhones because of Covid restrictions at Chinese factories, and that production had recovered.

Still, there’s a risk that customers who couldn’t find a new phone during the holiday season will just give up, rather than buying one in the current quarter. Apple CEO Tim Cook said it was “very hard to estimate” this possibility when analysts asked on the call.

Before Thursday, analysts had expected Apple to guide to about $98 billion in sales in the company’s fiscal second quarter.

On Thursday, Apple said that revenue had declined 5.49%. Last year, in the March quarter, Apple reported $97.28 billion in sales. A similar decline in the March quarter this year would put sales around $92 billion.

So on the surface, this should’ve been a disappointment.

But as Apple explained, a drop of 5.49% would actually be an improvement from the December quarter, because Apple’s results in that quarter were artificially boosted by the fact that there was an extra week. In other words, December 2022’s year-over-year revenue performance was even worse than it looked.

In addition, Covid lockdowns at factories in China were a big factor in the shortfall, but Apple said on Thursday that its production was back to a level it was comfortable with, suggesting that supply won’t be as big a drag on the March quarter as it was in December.

“For Services, we expect revenue to grow year-over-year while continuing to face macroeconomic headwinds in areas such as digital advertising and mobile gaming,” Maestri said.

Services revenue was one of the few pleasant surprises for Apple on Thursday, as its $20.77 billion in sales beat Wall Street consensus expectations. The segment includes App Store, warranties, iCloud, and Apple Music, among other things.

Last year, Apple reported $19.82 billion in services revenue in the March quarter, so the company is suggesting an increase from there, even though executives said it remains a tough environment with decreased gaming and advertising sales.

“For Mac and iPad, we expect revenue for both product categories to decline double digits year-over-year because of challenging compares and macroeconomic headwinds,” Maestri said.

This represents a significant shift for the iPad, which was Apple’s fastest growing hardware business during the December quarter, spiking nearly 30% on a year-over-year basis to $9.4 billion in sales. Now Apple is suggesting the business will go from 30% growth to more than a 10% decline.

In contrast, the Mac business declined nearly 29% during the December quarter, but Cook told analysts it was partially because of when the company released new laptops, and Apple announced new Mac desktops and laptops in January. Mac sales will be down at least 10% in the March quarter, based on these comments, but will likely improve.

“We expect gross margin to be between 43.5% and 44.5%. We expect OpEx to be between $13.7 billion and $14.9 billion,” Maestri said.

Apple’s margins remain significantly higher than they were before the pandemic. For example, in the quarter ending in December 2019, the last full quarter before the Covid pandemic was declared, Apple reported a gross margin of 38.4%.

“We’re doing a lot of work on the cost structure and that is paying off,” Maestri said.

Cook told CNBC’s Steve Kovach on Thursday that Apple had actually come in under its operating expenses goal for the December quarter.

“We’re being prudent and deliberate. If you look at our OpEx guidance, what we said we were going to do this quarter, we came in half of a billion dollars underneath it,” Cook said. “So we are squeezing costs out.”

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Meta shares plunge on weak revenue guidance even as first-quarter results top estimates

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Meta shares plunged more than 11% in extended trading on Wednesday after the company issued a light forecast, which overshadowed better-than-expected first-quarter results.

Here are the key numbers:

  • Earnings per share: $4.71 per share vs. $4.32 per share expected by LSEG
  • Revenue: $36.46 billion vs. $36.16 billion expected by LSEG

Revenue increased 27% from $28.65 billion in the same period a year earlier, the fastest rate of expansion for any quarter since 2021. Net income more than doubled to $12.37 billion, or $4.71 per share, from $5.71 billion, or $2.20 per share, a year ago.

One reason for the pop in net income is that, while revenue growth accelerated, sales and marketing costs dropped 16% in the quarter from a year earlier.

Meta said it expects sales in the second quarter of $36.5 billion to $39 billion. The midpoint of the range, $37.75 billion, would represent 18% year-over-year growth and is below analysts’ average estimate of $38.3 billion.

The company no longer reports daily active users and monthly active users. It now gives a figure for what it calls “family daily active people.” That number was 3.24 billion for March 2024, a 7% increase from a year earlier.

Meta has raised investor expectations due to its improved financial performance in recent quarters, leaving little room for error. The stock is up about 40% this year after almost tripling last year. In February 2023, CEO Mark Zuckerberg told investors it would be the “year of efficiency,” which initiated the rally.

At the time, Zuckerberg said the company would be better at eliminating unnecessary projects and cracking down on bloat, which would help Meta become a “stronger and more nimble organization.” The company cut about 21,000 jobs in the first half of 2023, and Zuckerberg said in February of this year that hiring will be “relatively minimal compared to what we would have done historically.”

Headcount declined by 10% in the first quarter from a year earlier to 69,329.

Capital expenditures for 2024 will be $35 billion to $40 billion, an increase from a prior forecast of $30 billion to $37 billion “as we continue to accelerate our infrastructure investments to support our artificial intelligence (AI) roadmap,” Meta said.

Average revenue per user in the quarter was $11.20, Meta said.

The Facebook parent has been clawing back digital ad market share after a dismal 2022. At that time, the company was reeling from Apple’s iOS privacy update and macroeconomic concerns that led many brands to rein in spending.

Zuckerberg spearheaded an initiative to rebuild the ad business with a focus on AI. On the company’s last earnings call in February, finance chief Susan Li said Meta has been investing in AI models that can accurately predict relevant ads for users, as well as tools that automate the ads-creation process. 

Advertising revenue, which accounts for the vast majority of Meta’s business, jumped 27% to $35.64 billion.

Meta is benefiting from a stabilizing economy and surge in spending from Chinese discount retailers like Temu and Shein, which have been pumping money into Facebook and Instagram in an effort to reach a wider swath of users. Some analysts have warned that slower spending from China-based advertisers could be a source of concern in the first quarter and as the year progresses.

The company’s Reality Labs unit, which houses the company’s hardware and software for development of the nascent metaverse, continues to bleed cash. Reality Labs reported sales of $440 million for the quarter and $3.85 billion in losses, bringing total losses since the end of 2020 to over $45 billion.

Analysts expected the division to show an operating loss of $4.31 billion for the quarter.

Executives will discuss the company’s results on a call with analysts at 5 p.m. ET.

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Meta’s Reality Labs posts $3.85 billion loss in first quarter

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Meta's Reality Labs posts .85 billion loss in first quarter

Facebook co-founder and chief executive, Mark Zuckerberg, speaks at an Oculus developers conference while wearing a virtual reality headset in San Jose, California.

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Meta shows no signs of substantially trimming its losses from investing in the metaverse, as competition heightens between the Facebook parent and Apple in the virtual reality market.

In its first-quarter earnings report Wednesday, Meta disclosed that its Reality Labs unit recorded a $3.85 billion operating loss. Revenue in the metaverse division was $440 million, up about 30% from $339 million a year ago and representing only around 1% of Meta’s total sales for the quarter.

Analysts were expecting a $4.31 billion operating loss and sales of $512.5 million for the quarter, according to StreetAccount.

Reality Labs has now lost more than $45 billion since the end of 2020, when Meta first began reporting the business segment separately.

Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg has called the metaverse “the next frontier,” imagining a digital world that facilitates both productivity and recreation. He changed the name of his company from Facebook to Meta in 2021 to reflect his vision for the future of computing.

For now, developing metaverse technology remains a fledgling and costly effort.

The company unveiled in September the Quest 3 VR headset, the latest version of its mixed reality hardware, with a starting price of $499. Apple started selling its $3,499 Vision Pro in February, touting a so-called “spatial computing” experience.

Meta announced Monday that it will partner with third-party hardware companies to create new VR headsets using the same Meta Horizon operating system that powers its Quest headsets. Zuckerberg said that while Apple “basically won out” in the phone market with its closed ecosystem, Meta’s move aims to ensure the “open model defines the next generation of computing.”

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IBM to acquire HashiCorp in $6.4 billion deal, reports another revenue miss

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IBM to acquire HashiCorp in .4 billion deal, reports another revenue miss

IBM CEO Arvind Krishna appears at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, on Jan. 16, 2024.

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IBM shares slipped as much as 6% in extended trading on Wednesday after the hardware, software and consulting provider said it would acquire cloud software maker HashiCorp and reported first-quarter revenue that was lower than analysts had predicted.

In a statement, IBM announced that it intends to pay $35 per share in cash for HashiCorp in a deal with a $6.4 billion enterprise value, net of cash. On Tuesday, The Wall Street Journal reported that IBM was getting close to acquiring HashiCorp, sending shares upward. Bloomberg said earlier on Wednesday that IBM was looking to offer $35 per share.

The deal would be accretive to adjusted earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization in the first full year after close, and accretive to free cash flow in the second year after close. IBM said it expects the transaction to close by the end of 2024. Dave McJannet, HashiCorp’s CEO, will report to Rob Thomas, IBM’s senior vice president in charge of software, if the deal goes through, a spokesperson said.

HashiCorp would complement Red Hat, which has contributed to IBM’s revenue growth since the $34 billion acquisition in 2019. IBM now sells Red Hat’s version of the Linux operating system for use on multiple public clouds, making it a neutral entity. HashiCorp pioneered open-source software that developers rely on to control cloud infrastructure. Premium versions of the Terraform cloud-management software and other products have brought revenue to HashiCorp.

In 2021 HashiCorp shares started trading on the Nasdaq. But revenue growth has slowed, and the company has continued to report losses. Still, it’s adding revenue at a faster pace than IBM.

HashiCorp shares moved 4% higher in extended trading following the acquisition announcement.

Here’s how IBM did in comparison with the consensus among analysts polled by LSEG:

  • Earnings per share: $1.68 adjusted vs. $1.60 expected
  • Revenue: $14.46 billion vs. $14.55 billion expected

IBM’s revenue increased around 1.5% year-over-year during the quarter, according to a statement. This marks the company’s third revenue miss in the last five quarters.

Revenue from software, at $5.90 billion, increased about 6% and was below the $5.96 billion consensus among analysts surveyed by StreetAccount.

IBM’s consulting revenue came in at $5.19 billion, down slightly and just under the $5.20 billion StreetAccount consensus.

Infrastructure revenue totaled $3.08 billion. It declined 0.7% but came in higher than the StreetAccount consensus of $2.94 billion.

During the quarter, IBM said it was providing its 160,000 consultants with artificial intelligence assistants to boost productivity, and the company completed the divestiture of The Weather Company to Francisco Partners.

Notwithstanding the after-hours move, IBM shares are up about 13% so far this year, outperforming the S&P 500 index, which is up 6% over the same period.

Executives will discuss the report with analysts on a conference call starting at 5 p.m. ET.

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