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Speaking to the BBC last Sunday, the prime minister said Reform’s plans to require settled immigrants to apply for British citizenship or face deportation was a “racist policy”.
However, he and other cabinet ministers declined to call Mr Farage, Reform UK or their supporters racist in subsequent interviews.
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Starmer vs Farage: Should he have said ‘racist’?
Dame Harriet said: “So I think in a way, what happened is he made that without planning it – he said the racist thing.
“And then instead of just going back on it, he slightly doubled down.”
Asked by Rigby if it was a mistake, Dame Harriet says that the prime minister should have “just moved on and redefined it rather than trying to explain it”.
“You can’t distinguish between a racist policy from a party and a racist party leader because that’s too subtle and nuanced for the public,” she added.
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