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SpaceX and Tesla CEO Elon Musk expressed his displeasure with President Joe Biden on Tuesday, deeming his administration “biased” against Tesla and saying it was “controlled” by unions during a speech on stage at the Code Conference in Beverly Hills, Calif.

Musk, in his typically irreverent form, also repeated several of his prior taunts against federal financial regulators at the SEC, reiterated his support for cryptocurrency and nuclear energy, and said he is optimistic about Tesla and tech in China despite recent antitrust and cryptocurrency crackdowns there.

Beef with Biden

Code host and Recode editor-at-large Kara Swisher asked Musk to explain recent tweets where he chided President Joe Biden.

Musk sighed. “You know, Biden held this EV summit — didn’t invite Tesla. Invited GM, Ford, Chrysler and UAW. An EV summit on the White House! Didn’t mention Tesla once, and praised GM and Ford for leading the EV revolution.”

Musk continued, “Does this sound maybe a little biased or something? And you know, just — it’s not the friendliest administration. Seems to be controlled by unions as far as I can tell.”

Swisher asked if he was waiting to get former president Trump back or to be president himself, he said no on both counts.

Taxes and tweets

Swisher asked Musk — who is currently the wealthiest person in the world, according to Bloomberg — to respond to criticism that while his companies have received a good deal of government contracts and subsidies, the CEO has avoided paying some taxes personally in the US through creative, if legal, accounting practices.

In June, the investigative news site ProPublica reported on Musk’s tax bill as part of a massive analysis of billionaire’s finances. They found that Musk’s income tax bill amounted to zero in 2018.

Musk insulted ProPublica’s reporting as “tricky” and “misleading.” (ProPublica did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Musk’s contentions.)

Then, he said that the number was so low because he does not draw a salary, so his cash compensation is basically zero. Musk borrows money against stock options that vest over time instead.

As he has amassed more and more shares in Tesla and SpaceX, he said, he has “not really bothered” to take money off the table by selling a stake. Success of SpaceX and Tesla was far from assured, Musk reminisced. “They skirted bankruptcy many times. But I never tried to take money off the table. And now this is trying to be turned around and made into a bad thing.”

Publicly traded Tesla never issued a notice to shareholders that it was near bankruptcy.

When Musk’s stock options expire at Tesla, the CEO said his marginal tax rate will be over 50 percent. “I have a bunch of options that are expiring early next year–so… a huge block of options will sell in Q4. Because I have to or they’ll expire.”

Swisher said, “So you will eventually pay a lot of taxes?”

Musk said, “Massive, yeah. Basically, a majority of what I sell will be tax.”

Critics may believe that wealthy people borrowing against their stock is “a trick to get away from paying taxes,” he said. But Musk emphasized that this is not uncommon and can be a risky move. “Borrowing against stock is all sort of fun and games until you have a recession and you hit the margin calls and then you go to zero which happens basically every time there’s a recession.”

He replied, “I’ve definitely gone on record and said I think our stock price is too high in my opinion, and this did nothing to stop the rise of the stock price. So… I don’t know– what am I supposed to do, you know? I’m not the one making it go up!” The audience laughed.

“I think it’s important to bear in mind, my actual tax rate is 53 percent. They’re trying to make it sound like I was paying very low taxes, but in fact my taxes are very high…A huge amount will be paid in the next three months because of expiring options,” he continued.

Swisher also asked about the CEO’s copious, and sometimes combative, use of Twitter. “Walk us through when you decide to do a tweet,” she said.

Musk replied to Swisher in a sarcastic tone.

“Well, I think about it for hours. And I consult with my strategy team,” he laughed with the audience. “Or maybe I’m wasted and then I brrrr–psshht! Gone! Let me shoot myself in the foot, bam! Now let me shoot myself in the foot bam! That describes some of my tweets.”

Previously, the Securities and Exchange Commission sued Tesla and Musk for securities fraud after the CEO wrote, on Twitter, that he was considering taking Tesla private for $420 per share and had funding secured.

They ultimately settled that lawsuit, with Musk and Tesla each paying a $20 million fine to the feds and Musk relinquishing his role as chairman of the board at Tesla. Musk also agreed to have his tweets reviewed by a compliance officer at Tesla before he posts them, if they contain any material company information.

“Are you worried about any SEC involvement in your tweets going forward?” Swisher asked.

Musk said, “What does that stand for again? I know the middle word is ‘Elon’s’ but I can’t remember the other two words.

She urged him to answer seriously. “Are you worried they’re gonna say Elon, stop… tweeting.”

Musk said, “Are you talking about the shortseller enrichment commission?”

Both comments were allusions to insults Musk had lobbed at the financial regulator on Twitter in 2020 and 2018, respectively.

Crypto and China

Tesla made waves when it purchased about $1.5 billion worth of bitcoin. After it disclosed the holdings, the price of bitcoin skyrocketed. When Musk said on Twitter that Tesla would stop accepting bitcoin as a payment for its electric cars, the price of bitcoin plummeted.

When Musk tweets an endorsement of a particular coin — as he has done with dogecoin — its price tends to increase at least temporarily.

When Swisher asked about cryptocurrency regulation, Musk said that the SEC should back off.

“Just let it fly,” he suggested.

The People’s Bank of China recently declared all virtual currency-related activities illegal. Swisher asked Musk if he has any concerns about working in China, or if he was worried about U.S.-China relations.

After praising Tesla’s employees and vehicle assembly plant in Shanghai, Musk said, he was “not especially” worried about China right now. As the pandemic wanes, enabling a culture of in-person meetings to resume, Musk predicted “trust levels” in China with tech companies and foreign businesses would “start heading in a more positive direction.”

Musk said he thought China may not be embracing cryptocurrency in part because of electricity shortages there and the massive amount of electricity needed for mining bitcoin. But he also noted cryptocurrency could decrease the power of centralized governments.

When Swisher noted Musk individually can “change the shares” in cryptocurrency more than China can, he acknowledged this. She asked him if that was a good thing. He quipped, “If it goes up, I suppose it is.”

Space and energy

Swisher and Musk discussed SpaceX, its competitors, plans to expand Starlink (a satellite internet service) and ambitions to make humanity a “multi-planet species” at length.

During the course of their SpaceX discussion, Musk took the occasion to mock the phallic shape of Blue Origin’s rocket, and berate Jeff Bezos for his aerospace company’s litigiousness.

Swisher asked, “Can you explain from a technological point of view why it’s that shape?” The characteristically ribald Musk said, “If you are only going to be doing sub-orbital then your rocket can be sort of shorter, yes.”

Musk specified that he doesn’t really speak with the Amazon founder, but instead subtweets him — meaning he posts tweets about Bezos without addressing him directly.

When asked about SpaceX creating light pollution that has interfered with astronomers’ work, Musk said “We take great pains to make sure our satellites do not interfere with their telescopes.” SpaceX may launch some new telescopes using the Starship vehicle, he noted, which would have ten times the resolution of the Hubble. He said only amateur astronomers are complaining about SpaceX today.

As the session wrapped up, one audience member asked if Musk is concerned about utilities being able to generate and transmit enough electricity to power electric vehicles as they become more popular.

Musk estimated that electricity demand would approximately double as the world shifts from gas-powered to electric vehicles.

“This is gonna create a lot of challenges with the grid,” he said. He saw the demand as “unworkable” unless significant local power generation is added at houses through means such as residential solar products, like those sold by Tesla.

Besides solar on rooftops, he said we’ll need to add “large, sustainable power generation developments primarily wind and solar” to the grid, pairing them with battery packs to smooth out the intermittent nature of renewable energy.

Musk added, as a closing thought:

“I’m also kind of pro-nuclear. And I’m sort of surprised by the public sentiment against nuclear. I’m not saying we should go build a whole bunch of new nuclear plants. But I don’t think we should shut down ones that are operating safely. They did this in Germany and had to create a whole bunch of coal power plants and I don’t think that was the right decision, frankly.”

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Shares of DocuSign surge 14% on strong earnings, AI boost

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DocuSign CEO Allan Thygesen on Q4 results, launch of DocuSign IAM and growth outlook

Docusign rose more than 14% after reporting stronger-than-expected earnings after the bell Thursday.

“We’ve really stabilized and I think started to turn the corner on the core business,” CEO Allan Thygesen said Friday on CNBC’s “Squawk Box.” “We’ve become much more efficient.”

Here’s how the company performed in the fourth quarter FY2025 compared to LSEG estimates:

  • Earnings per share: 86 cents vs. 85 cents expected
  • Revenue: $776 million vs. $761 million

The earnings beat was boosted in part by the electronic signature service’s new artificial intelligence-enabled content called Docusign IAM, a platform for optimizing processes involving agreements.

“It’s tremendously valuable,” Thygesen said. “It’s opening a treasure trove of data. … We’re seeing excellent pickup.”

Looking to fiscal year 2026, Thygesen said Docusign expects IAM to account for low double digits of the total growth of the business by Q4.

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Thygesen said the company is also partnering with Microsoft and Google, which the company does not view as competitors because they’re “not looking to become agreement management specialists.”

Despite consumer sentiment and demand dipping across the board due to tariff uncertainty, Thygesen said the company has not seen anything yet in its transactional activity to indicate a slowdown in demand or growth.

“More and more people are going to want to sign things electronically,” Thygesen said.

The company reported subscription revenue at $757 million, marking a 9% year-over-year increase. Docusign said it expects first-quarter revenue between $745 million and $749 million and projects full-year revenue between $3.129 billion and $3.141 billion.

Docusign reported net income of $83.50 million, or 39 cents per share, compared to net income of $27.24 million, or 13 cents per share, a year ago. Fourth-quarter revenue of $776 million was up 9% from the year-ago quarter.

DocuSign went public in 2018 at a $6 billion valuation. The company’s share price soared during the pandemic as demand for remote services boomed during lockdowns and social restrictions, hitting record highs in 2021 before plummeting. Thygesen, who previously worked at Google, joined the company in September 2022 after DocuSign’s massive slide.

The stock is down more than 16% year-to-date.

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Tech’s 3-week sell-off, led by Tesla, wipes out $2.7 trillion in value from megacaps

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Less than two months ago, the tech industry’s top leaders flocked to Washington, D.C., for the presidential inauguration, part of an effort to strike a friendly tone with President Donald Trump after a contentious first go-round in the White House.

Thus far, they’ve avoided any nasty social media posts from the president. But their treatment by investors has been anything but warm.

Over the last three weeks, since the Nasdaq touched its high for the year, the seven most valuable U.S. tech companies — often called “the Magnificent Seven” — have lost a combined $2.7 trillion in market value. The sell-off has pushed the Nasdaq to its lowest level since September.

As of Thursday, the tech-heavy index was down 4.9% for the week, heading for its worst weekly performance in six months. If it ends up down more than 5.8%, it would be the steepest weekly drop since January 2022.

Sparking the downdraft was President Trump’s promise to slap high tariffs on top trading partners, including China, Mexico and Canada, along with mass firings of government workers. The combination of a potential trade war and rising unemployment is particularly troubling news for consumer and business spending and has raised fears of a recession.

Additionally, many technology companies import key parts from abroad, and rely on trade partners for manufacturing.

This isn’t what Wall Street was expecting.

Following Trump’s election victory in November, the market jumped on prospects of diminished regulation and favorable tax policies. The Nasdaq climbed to a record close on Dec. 16, capping a more than 9% rally over about six weeks after the election.

Since then, electric car maker Tesla has lost close to half its value, despite — or perhaps because of — the central role that CEO Elon Musk is playing in the Trump administration.

The Nasdaq’s high point for the year came on Feb. 19, about a month into Trump’s second term. But it finished that week lower and has continued its precipitous decline.

Here’s how the seven megacaps have fared over that stretch:

Apple, the world’s most valuable company and the only remaining member of the $3 trillion club, has lost $529 billion in market cap since the close on Feb. 19. The iPhone maker is down 17%.

Microsoft, which was previously worth over $3 trillion, has fallen by $267 billion in the past three weeks, a drop of close to 9% for the software giant.

Nvidia, the chipmaker that’s been the biggest beneficiary of the artificial intelligence boom, also slid below $3 trillion over the course of losing $577 billion in value, the biggest dollar decline in the group. Like Apple, the stock is down 17% since the Nasdaq peaked.

Amazon is down by $347 billion, falling by 14%, while Alphabet is off by $275 billion after a 12% decline. Meta has shed $286 billion in market cap, a 16% drop.

Tesla has seen by far the biggest percentage decline at 33%, equaling $386 billion in value.

Goldman Sachs on Wednesday referred to the group as the “Maleficent 7.” Chief U.S. equity strategist David Kostin noted that the basket now trades at its lowest valuation premium relative to the S&P 500 since 2017. Goldman cut its price target on the benchmark index to 6,200 from 6,500. The S&P 500 closed on Thursday at 5,521.52.

“We believe investors will require either a catalyst that improves the economic growth outlook or clear asymmetry to the upside before they try to ‘catch the falling knife’ and reverse the recent market momentum,” Kostin wrote.

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‘Please unleash us,’ Europe’s telcos urge regulators as industry bangs drum for more mega-deals

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BARCELONA — Europe’s telecommunication firms are ramping up calls for more industry consolidation to help the region compete more effectively with superpowers like the U.S. and China on key technologies like 5G and artificial intelligence.

Last week at the Mobile World Congress (MWC) trade show in Barcelona, CEOs of several telecoms firms called on regulators to make it easier for them to combine their operations with other businesses and reduce the overall number of carriers operating across the continent.

Currently, there are numerous telco players operating in multiple EU countries and non-EU members such as the U.K. However, telco chiefs told CNBC this situation is untenable, as they’re unable to compete effectively when it comes to price and network quality.

“If we’re going to invest in technology, in deep know-how, and bring drastic change, positive drastic change in Europe — like other large technological companies have done in the U.S. or we’re seeing today in China — we need scale,” Marc Murtra, CEO of Spanish telecoms giant Telefonica, told CNBC’s Karen Tso in an interview.

“To be able to get scale, we need to consolidate a fragmented market like the telecoms market in Europe,” Murtra added. “And for that, we need a regulation that allows us to consolidate. So what we do ask is: please unleash us. Let us gain scale. Let us invest in technology and bring upon productive change.”

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Christel Heydemann, CEO of French carrier Orange, said that while some mega-deal activity is starting to gather pace in Europe, more needs to be done to guarantee the continent’s competitiveness on the world stage.

Last year, Orange closed a deal to merge its Spanish operations with local mobile network provider Masmovil. Meanwhile, more recently, the U.K.’s Competition and Markets Authority approved a £15 billion ($19 billion) merger between telecoms firms Vodafone and Three in the U.K., subject to certain conditions.

“We’ve been actively driving consolidation in Europe,” Orange’s Heydemann told CNBC. “We see things changing now. There’s still a lot of hope.”

However, she added: “I think there’s a lot of pressure in Europe from the business environment on our political leaders to get things to change. But really, things have not yet changed.”

During a fiery keynote address on Monday, the CEO of German telco Deutsche Telekom, Tim Höttges, said that other telco markets such as the U.S. and India have condensed in size to only a handful of players.

The American telco industry is dominated by its three largest mobile network operators, Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile. T-Mobile is majority-owned by Deutsche Telekom.

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A chart comparing the share price performance of T-Mobile, America’s largest telco by market cap, with that of Germany’s Deutsche Telekom and France’s Orange.

“We need a reform of the of the competition policy,” Höttges said onstage at MWC. “We have to be allowed to consolidate our activities.”

“There is no reason that every market has to operate with three or four operators,” he added. “We should build a European single market … because, if we cannot increase our consumer prices, if we cannot charge the over-the-top players, we have to get efficiencies out of the scale which we created.”

“Over-the-top” refers to media platforms such as Netflix that deliver content over the internet, bypassing traditional cable networks.

Europe’s competitiveness in focus

From AI to advances to next-generation 5G networks, Europe’s telecoms firms have been investing heavily into new technologies in a bid to move beyond the legacy model of laying down cables that enable internet connectivity — a business model that’s earned them the pejorative term “dumb pipes.”

However, this costly endeavor of modernization has happened in tandem with sluggish revenue growth and an inability for the sector to effectively monetize its networks to the same degree that technology giants have done with the emergence of mobile applications and, more recently, generative AI tools.

At MWC, many mobile network operators talked up their usage of AI to improve network quality, better serve their customers and gain market share from competitors.

Still, Europe’s telco bosses say they could be accelerating their digital transformation journeys if they were allowed to combine with other large multinational players.

“There’s this real focus now around European competitiveness,” Luke Kehoe, industry analyst for Europe at network intelligence firm Ookla, told CNBC on the sidelines of MWC last week. “There’s a goal to mobilize policy to improve telecoms networks.”

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In January, the European Commission, the executive body of the European Union, issued its so-called “Competitiveness Compass” to EU lawmakers.

The document calls for, among other things, “revised guidelines for assessing mergers so that innovation, resilience and the investment intensity of competition in certain strategic sectors are given adequate weight in light of the European economy’s acute needs.”

Meanwhile, last year former European Central Bank President Mario Draghi released a long-awaited report that urged radical reforms to the EU through a new industrial strategy to ensure its competitiveness.

It also calls for a new Digital Networks Act that would look to improve incentives for telcos to build next-generation mobile networks, reduce compliance costs, improve connectivity for end-users, and harmonize EU policy across the network spectrum, or the range of radio frequencies used for wireless communication.

“The common theme and the mood music is certainly reducing ex-ante regulation and to foster what they would call a more competitive environment which is an environment more conducive of consolidation,” Ookla’s Kehoe told CNBC. “Moving forward, I think that there will be more consolidation.”

However, the telco industry has some way to go toward seeing transformational cross-border mergers and acquisitions, Kehoe added.

For many telco industry analysts, the demands for increased consolidation is nothing new.

“European telco CEOs have never been shy about calling for consolidation and growth-friendly regulation,” Nik Willetts, CEO of the telco industry association TM Forum, told CNBC. “But regulation is only one piece of the puzzle.”

“In the last 12 months we’ve seen a new energy from our members in Europe to get on with the huge task to transform themselves: simplifying, modernizing and automating their operations and legacy tech.”

“This will make it possible to rapidly adapt to new customer needs and market realities, whether building new partnerships, undergoing M&A or delayering integrated businesses – all trends we expect to reach new heights over the next 24 months,” he added.

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