Michael Gove has said he is “confident” that progress can be made in talks with the European Union over the Northern Ireland Protocol without Article 16 needing to be triggered.
Speaking at the British-Irish Council summit in Cardiff, the Cabinet minister said “a constructive approach” is being taken by both sides in the negotiations and that he believes the mechanism to suspend elements of post-Brexit trading arrangements won’t need to be enacted.
Image: EU Commission vice-president Maros Sefcovic said he hopes the UK’s ‘actions will follow the words’
The Northern Ireland Protocol prevents a hard border with Ireland by keeping Northern Ireland in the EU’s single market, but that meant checks on products crossing the Irish Sea from Great Britain.
It states that Northern Ireland will remain part of the UK’s customs territory however, and it will have to stick to some EU rules to allow goods to move freely into the Republic and rest of the EU.
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Article 16 allows either the EU or the UK to suspend parts of the Brexit withdrawal agreement if it is causing economic difficulties.
“(Brexit minister) Lord Frost has signalled that while, of course, it’s always possible that Article 16 may require to be invoked, we’re confident that we’ll be able to make progress without it,” Mr Gove said on Friday.
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The Cabinet minister added that there was clear “determination” from all negotiating parties to “make progress” in discussions.
“There’s a shared recognition that we do need to alter the operation of the protocol on the ground,” Mr Gove said.
He added: “I hope that we won’t need to trigger Article 16, for reasons that will be well understood, but we reserve the right to do so if we believe that changes which are required on the ground in Northern Ireland have not been made.”
Irish Prime Minister Micheal Martin said he believes all sides share “a common desire to get these issues revolved through negotiation”.
He urged both the UK and the EU to “turn the corner” and act in the “best interests of people in Northern Ireland on the ground”.
“It’s clear in the discussions this morning from all participants, an acknowledgement of the challenges of COVID to supply chains, the challenges of Brexit and what that means.
“The last thing we need is further disruption and, rather, the focus should be on resolving this.”
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Their comments came as Brexit minister Lord Frost and EU Commission vice-president Maros Sefcovic continue fresh talks on Friday to resolve issues related to the protocol.
Ahead of their latest meeting, Mr Sefcovic welcomed a “change in tone” from Lord Frost’s team but warned that a post-Brexit trade deal “cannot exist” without the protocol matter being settled.
He added that he hopes the UK’s “actions will follow the words”.
“Our solutions can become reality if the UK plays its part. That is why we have engaged constructively with the UK in order to agree joint solutions,” the EU Commission vice-president said.
“But we also make clear, with the full support of the European parliament and the member states, that we will not renegotiate the protocol.
“To do so would mean to put at risk the stability in Northern Ireland and it would be unnecessary because solutions are available within the framework of the protocol.”
Mr Sefcovic also said the bloc’s offer to permanently slash customs paperwork by 50% and remove up to 80% of checks would result in a “win-win situation” for all.
Lord Frost said “intensive and constructive talks have proceeded between the UK and EU teams”, adding: “There is the potential to generate some momentum in our discussions.”
But, speaking ahead of the meeting, he played down the prospect of progress, telling reporters there are still “significant gaps” between the UK and EU’s negotiating positions and that the option of triggering Article 16 of the Northern Ireland Protocol remains.
“Our preference is to see if we can find a negotiated way through this problem. If we can’t, Article 16 remains on the table,” he said.
Lord Frost added: “I wouldn’t expect any breakthroughs today but there are some issues that we are making better progress on than others.”
After the meeting, the UK’s Brexit minister said the two parties have “not yet made substantive progress on the fundamental customs and SPS (plant, human and animal health) issues relating to goods moving from Great Britain to Northern Ireland”.
Lord Frost also confirmed that he and Mr Sefcovic will reconvene for further talks on 26 November.
Reform UK’s most senior woman has told Sky News the Rupert Lowe row “doesn’t look great” and she doesn’t “want to see it in the news any more days”.Â
Dame Andrea Jenkyns, who defected to Reform last year, accepted it was “clearly a big falling out” but suggested these spats do not always cut through to the public.
She insisted she was concentrating on winning as she looks to become the party’s first ever mayor in May.
In an interview with Sky News, Dame Andrea also spoke for the first time about her experience of domestic abuse, denying Reform has a “woman problem” but accepted “we need to start talking more about issues, what women are interested in”.
Having lost her seat as a Conservative in the 2024 election, Dame Andrea briefly quit politics only to return earlier this year as Reform’s newest recruit.
She is now standing as the party’s candidate to become the first Greater Lincolnshire mayor, in a race that psephologists think could be Reform’s best hope of turning itself from a party of protest into one that is governing.
That’s because Reform is on the march in Lincolnshire, which is a key battleground between the Conservatives and Reform in the local and mayoral elections in May.
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Richard Tice, Reform’s deputy leader, took the Conservative seat of Boston and Skegness in the last election as Reform came second in a further two of the county’s eight constituencies.
Image: Dame Andrea spoke to Sky News’ Beth Rigby
This farming country has long been part of the patchwork of Conservative England and it is in these heartlands that Reform hopes it can land a significant blow to its political rivals in the coming weeks.
“It’s a worry,” admits one Labour insider who doesn’t much relish the prospect of having to deal with a newly minted Reform party mayor should Dame Andrea win in May against Labour candidate Jason Stockwood, the Conservative Rob Waltham and independent Marianne Overton.
There is also the Lincolnshire council race, which Reform is targeting. All 70 seats are up for grabs and the Conservatives, which have a 38-seat majority, are defending 53 seats. The only way is up for Reform here, while the Conservatives, who have held this council for 10 of the past 13 elections, are bracing for a drubbing.
Tories say Jenkyns is from Yorkshire
The Conservatives make the point that they have a “strong local candidate who is born and bred in Lincolnshire, whereas Dame Andrea is from Yorkshire” when I ask them about the race.
“We are fighting hard, we have a proven track record of delivery in charge of local services whereas Reform aren’t tried and tested,” the Conservatives said.
“And if they’re anything like Reform nationally, who don’t turn up on important votes, then they won’t show up for people locally.”
Dame Andrea is still based in Yorkshire where she used to be an MP, as this is where her son attends school. But she rents a place in Lincolnshire and has vowed to move to the county should she win the mayoralty.
She also points out that she grew up in Lincolnshire and was a local councillor before moving to Yorkshire after her shock victory over Ed Balls in the 2015 general election.
Image: Dame Andrea is hoping to become Reform’s first mayor
‘Fed up’ farmers eyeing Reform
When we meet her on the road in Lincolnshire, she takes us to meet some farmers whose livelihoods are under intense pressure – be it over local flooding and flood defences or changes to inheritance tax and farming subsidies that are affecting their farms.
There is little love for Labour in the gathering of farmers, who in the main seem to be lapsed Conservative voters that are now eyeing Reform, as a number of them tell me how they are fed up with how the Environment Agency and local politicians are running their area.
“We’re fed up with all of them,” said one farmer.
“We just want some action. As farmers we know drainage is so important, we just want to get it sorted.”
They are also alarmed and anxious about the inheritance tax changes introduced by Labour and are pressing for carve-outs for small farms handed down from generation to generation amid fears they will have to sell up to pay the inheritance tax bills.
But the troubles at the top of Reform hadn’t gone unnoticed by this group. Unprompted, one of the farmers raised the row between the suspended Reform MP Rupert Lowe and the party leadership, telling Dame Andrea that while he “really likes Reform” he doesn’t much like what he’s seeing at the moment.
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‘Spat looks worse because Reform is small’
The farmer said: “I don’t follow politics avidly. But I just look and say [Rupert Lowe] is full of common sense and I really like him and I don’t know what’s happened, but it looks from outside [he has been] chucked under the bus.
“And I’m like, am I getting second thoughts about Reform? I don’t know what’s gone on, but it concerns me about what’s going on with Reform.”
Dame Andrea tries to downplay it and says the “spat” looks worse because it’s a smaller party.
“To me it’s about the movement, the right policies, to carry on. What is the alternative? This will blow over and Reform will keep getting strong,” she said.
Can Jenkyns and Farage co-exist?
Dame Andrea would clearly like the infighting to stop, but it raises questions for me about how she will fit into this very male-dominated party, in which all four MPs are male, with Dame Andrea the only senior woman beyond the former Conservative minister Ann Widdicombe.
She is, like Nigel Farage, a disrupter – Dame Andrea was one of the first Tories to call for Theresa May and Rishi Sunak to stand down, and a conviction politician who fervently backed Boris Johnson and Brexit.
If she does win this mayoral race she will be a big personality in Reform alongside Farage, which leaves me wondering if they can co-exist in a party already at war.
Image: Dame Andrea says she doesn’t think the party has a ‘woman problem’
Jenkyns was in an abusive relationship
Reform does struggle with female voters, with fewer women voting for the party against all age cohorts, young to old. Dame Andrea tells me she doesn’t think the party has a “woman problem”, but she does think it needs to talk about more issues that she thinks women are interested in, citing education, special educational needs and mental health.
When I raise the matter of violence against women and how the party has handled revelations that one of its own MPs was jailed in a youth detention centre as a teenager for assaulting his girlfriend, Dame Andrea reveals to me she has been in an abusive relationship.
“I know how it can break you. I know how you sort of start losing your identity. So I’ve been on that side,” she said.
“And I’ve also helped constituents to fight against this, so it matters, we need to do more in society because whether it’s men or women, one is too much in my view.”
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Out on the campaign trail, even in the Labour territory of Lincoln where Hamish Falconer is the local MP, Dame Andrea gets a warm welcome. She tells me she thinks she can win it: “I might be living in blind hope here. But I’ve got that feeling.”
This corner of England has become a test bed for Reform to see if it can turn from a party of protest into one that has a shot at governing in the form of a regional mayor.
If Reform can succeed in that – what might come next? It would be a remarkable comeback for Dame Andrea and a remarkable victory for Reform too.
Ministers have been priming Labour MPs and the public for cuts to a ballooning welfare bill since the start of the year.
Image: Baroness Harriet Harman said people criticising Liz Kendall should ‘shut up’
Asked what she thought of briefings against Ms Kendall as welfare cuts loom, Baroness Harman said: “I hate those sorts of briefings.
“I don’t think anybody should be briefing against Labour ministers who are trying to implement the manifesto.
“You know, she is incredibly competent and leads a really dedicated team. So I think they should just shut up and pull together.”
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Image: Work and Pensions Secretary Liz Kendall. Pic: PA
More and more Labour MPs have publicly criticised the impending benefit cuts, with many concerned they will hit people with disabilities the most.
Downing Street has taken the unusual step of calling all 404 Labour MPs into Number 10 over Wednesday and Thursday for briefings on the changes ahead of the details being released next week.
Baroness Harman said she thinks Ms Kendall is a “rising star” and is “absolutely certain” the PM and chancellor will stand behind her.
The peer was social security secretary – the equivalent of Ms Kendall’s job now – at the start of Tony Blair’s first term after Labour’s 1997 landslide win.
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She was forced to defend benefit cuts just after they came to power and said there are “lots of parallels between what we were trying to do then, and what the government is trying to do now”.
However, she said the difference is, in 1997 she was making the argument for welfare cuts to help single parents into work by herself, but Ms Kendall is being backed by Rachel Reeves and Sir Keir Starmer.
Sir Keir Starmer is doubling down on his bid to reduce government waste, but is his plan a fix or just more spending spin? Beth is in Hull after hearing what the Labour leader is promising, including scrapping NHS England to “cut bureaucracy” and bringing management of the health service “back into democratic control”.
Alongside Harriet and Ruth, they also discuss Starmer potentially facing down a rebellion from his own MPs over plans to shake up benefits reform and welfare payments.
The cracks are widening for Reform UK’s internal spat. Beth speaks to Andrea Jenkyns, who left the Tories to join Reform, on the party’s latest bust-up, and Ruth and Harriet look at whether the party’s chaos is helping both Labour and the Conservatives.
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