People wait in line outside the US Supreme Court in Washington, DC, on February 21, 2023 to hear oral arguments in two cases that test Section 230, the law that provides tech companies a legal shield over what their users post online.
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Supreme Court Justices voiced hesitation on Tuesday about upending a key legal shield that protects tech companies from liability for their users’ posts, and for how the companies moderate messages on their sites.
Justices across the ideological spectrum expressed concern with breaking the delicate balance set by Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act as they rule on the pivotal case, Gonzalez v. Google, even as some suggested a narrower reading of the liability shield could sometimes make sense.
The current case was brought by the family of an American killed in a 2015 terrorist attack in Paris. The petitioners argue that Google, through its subsidiary YouTube, violated the Anti-Terrorism Act by aiding and abetting ISIS, as it promoted the group’s videos through its recommendation algorithm. Lower courts sided with Google, saying Section 230 protects the company from being held liable for third-party content posted on its service.
The petitioners contend that YouTube’s recommendations actually constitute the company’s own speech, which would fall outside the bounds of the liability shield.
But the justices struggled to understand where the petitioner’s counsel, Eric Schnapper, was drawing the line on what counts as content created by YouTube itself.
Conservative Justice Samuel Alito at one point said he was “completely confused” by the distinction Schnapper tried to draw between YouTube’s own speech and that of a third party.
Schnapper repeatedly pointed to the thumbnail image YouTube shows users to display what video is coming up next, or is suggested based on their views. He said that thumbnail was a joint creation between YouTube and the third party that posted the video, in this case ISIS, because YouTube contributes the URL.
But several justices questioned whether that argument would apply to any attempt to organize information from the internet, including a search engine results page. They expressed concern that such a broad interpretation could have far-reaching effects the high court may not be prepared to predict.
Conservative Justice Brett Kavanaugh noted that courts have applied Section 230 consistently since its inception in the 1990s and pointed to the amici briefs that warned overhauling that interpretation would cause massive economic consequences for many businesses, as well as their workers, consumers and investors. Kavanaugh said those are “serious concerns” Congress could consider if it sought to rework the statute. But the Supreme Court, he said, is “not equipped to account for that.”
“You’re asking us right now to make a very precise predictive judgment that ‘Don’t worry, that it’s really not going to be that bad,'” Kavanaugh told U.S. Deputy Solicitor General Malcolm Stewart, who was arguing the high court should send the case back to the lower court for further consideration. “I don’t know that that’s at all the case. And I don’t know how we can assess that in any meaningful way.”
When Stewart suggested that Congress could amend 230 to account for changes in the reality of the internet today, Chief Justice John Roberts pushed back, noting “the amici suggests that if we wait for Congress to make that choice, the internet will be sunk.”
Even conservative Justice Clarence Thomas, who has openly written that the court should take up a case around Section 230, seemed skeptical of the petitioners’ line in the sand. Thomas noted that YouTube uses the same algorithm to recommend ISIS videos to users interested in that kind of content, as it uses to promote cooking videos to those interested in that subject. Plus, he said, he sees those as suggestions, not affirmative recommendations.
“I don’t understand how a neutral suggestion about something that you’ve expressed an interest in is aiding and abetting,” Thomas said.
The justices had tough questions for Google too, wondering if the liability protections are quite as broad as the tech industry would like to believe. Liberal Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, for example, had a long back and forth with Lisa Blatt, counsel arguing on behalf of Google, about whether YouTube would be protected by Section 230 in the hypothetical scenario in which the company promotes an ISIS video on its homepage in a box marked “featured.”
Blatt said publishing a homepage is inherent to operating a website so should be covered by Section 230, and that organization is a core function of platforms, so if topic headings can’t be covered, the statute basically becomes a “dead letter.”
Liberal Justice Elena Kagan suggested it’s not necessary to agree completely with Google’s assessment of the fallout from altering 230 to fear the potential consequences.
“I don’t have to accept all of Ms. Blatt’s ‘the sky is falling’ stuff to accept something about, ‘Boy, there’s a lot of uncertainty about going the way you would have us go,’ in part just because of the difficulty of drawing lines in this area,” Kagan told Schnapper, adding the job may be better suited for Congress.
“We’re a court, we really don’t know about these things,” Kagan said. “These are not like the nine greatest experts on the internet.”
Section 230 proponents are optimistic
Several experts rooting for Google’s success in this case said they were more optimistic after the arguments than before at a press conference convened by Chamber of Progress, a center-left industry group that Google and other major tech platforms support.
Cathy Gellis is an independent attorney in the San Francisco Bay Area who filed an amicus brief on behalf of a person running a Mastodon server, as well as a Google-funded startup advocacy group and a digital think tank. She told CNBC that briefs like hers and others seemed to have a big impact on the court.
“It would appear that if nothing else, amicus counsel, not just myself, but my other colleagues, may have saved the day because it was evident that the justices took a lot of those lessons on board,” Gellis said.
“And it appeared overall that there was not a huge appetite to upend the internet, especially on a case that I believe for them looked rather weak from a plaintiff’s point of view.”
Still, Eric Goldman, a professor at Santa Clara University School of Law, said while he felt more optimistic on the outcome of the Gonzalez case, he remains concerned for the future of Section 230.
“I remain petrified that the opinion is going to put all of us in an unexpected circumstance,” Goldman said.
On Wednesday, the justices will hear a similar case with a different legal question.
In Twitter v. Taamneh, the justices will similarly consider whether Twitter can be held liable for aiding and abetting under the Anti-Terrorism Act. But in this case, the focus is on whether Twitter’s decision to regularly remove terrorist posts means it had knowledge of such messages on its platform and should have taken more aggressive action against them.
Conservative Justice Amy Coney Barrett asked Schnapper how the decision in that case could impact the one in the Google matter. Schnapper said if the court ruled against Taamneh, the Gonzalez counsel should be given the chance to amend their arguments in a way that fits the standard set in the other case.
A newly proposed exchange-traded fund would offer exposure to bitcoin, much like other popular ETFs tracking the world’s oldest cryptocurrency. But, there’s a twist: The fund would trade bitcoin-linked assets while Wall Street sleeps.
The Nicholas Bitcoin and Treasuries AfterDark ETF aims to purchase bitcoin-linked financial instruments after the U.S. financial markets close, and exit those positions shortly after the U.S. market re-opens each day, according to a December 9 filing to the Securities and Exchange Commission.
The fund would not hold bitcoin directly. Instead, the AfterDark ETF would use at least 80% of the value of its assets to trade bitcoin futures contracts, bitcoin exchange-traded products and ETFs, and options on those ETFs and ETPs.
The offering would capitalize on bitcoin’s outsized gains in off-hours trading.
Hypothetically, an investor who had been buying shares of the iShares Bitcoin Trust ETF (IBIT) when U.S. markets formally close, and selling them at the next day’s open, would have scored a 222% gain since January 2024, data from wealth manager Bespoke Investment Group shows. But an investor that had bought IBIT shares at the open and sold them at the close would have lost 40.5% in the same time.
Bitcoin was last trading at $92,320, down nearly 1% on the day. The leading cryptocurrency is down about 12% over the past month and little changed since the beginning of the year.
The proposed ETF underscores jockeying among sponsors to launch ETFs tracking all kinds of cryptocurrencies, from altcoins like Aptos and Sui to memecoins such as Bonk and Dogecoin. The contest has only accelerated under President Donald Trump, who has pushed the SEC and Commodity Futures Trading Commission to soften their stances on token issuers and digital asset exchanges.
Since being approved under the prior administration in January 2024, more than 30 bitcoin ETFs have begun trading in the U.S., according to data from ETF.com.
Chuck Robbins, chief executive officer of Cisco, participates in a Bloomberg interview at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, on Jan. 17, 2024.
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Few companies were as hot in early 2000 as Cisco, whose networking equipment served as the backbone of the internet boom.
On Wednesday, Cisco’s stock surpassed its dot-com peak for the first time. The shares rose almost 1% to $80.25, topping their prior split-adjusted record or $80.06 reached on March 27, 2000. That’s the same day that Cisco passed Microsoft to become the most valuable publicly traded company in the world.
Back then, investors saw Cisco as a way to bet on the growth of the web, as companies that wanted to get online relied upon the hardware maker’s switches and routers. But following a half-decade boom, the dot-com bubble burst just after Cisco reached its zenith, a collapse that wiped out more than three-quarters of the Nasdaq’s value by October 2002.
While the market swoon eliminated scores of internet highflyers, Cisco survived the upheaval. Eventually it started to grow and expand, diversifying through a series of acquisitions like set-top box maker Scientific- Atlanta in 2006, followed by software companies including Webex, AppDynamics, Duo and Splunk.
With its gains on Wednesday, Cisco’s market cap sits at $317 billion, making it only the 13th most valuable U.S. tech company. In recent years, the stock has badly trailed tech’s megacaps, which have been at the center of the new boom surrounding artificial intelligence.
The AI market has reached a level of euphoria that many analysts have compared to the dot-com era. Instead of Cisco, the modern infrastructure winner is Nvidia, whose AI chips are at the heart of model development and are relied up by the other major tech companies that are all building out AI-focused data centers. Nvidia has a market cap of $4.5 trillion, roughly 14 times Cisco’s current value.
But Cisco is angling to benefit from the AI craze, with CEO Chuck Robbins in November touting $1.3 billion in quarterly AI infrastructure orders from large web companies. Total revenue approached $15 billion, which was up 7.5% year over year, compared with 66% growth in 2000.
Shares of Cisco are up about 36% so far in 2025, outperforming the Nasdaq, which has gained about 22% over the same period.
Larry Ellison, Oracle’s co-founder and chief technology officer, appears at the Formula One British Grand Prix in Towcester, U.K., on July 6, 2025.
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Oracle is scheduled to report fiscal second-quarter results after market close on Wednesday.
Here’s what analysts are expecting, according to LSEG:
Earnings per share: $1.64 adjusted
Revenue: $16.21 billion
Wall Street expects revenue to increase 15% in the quarter that ended Nov. 30, from $14.1 billion a year earlier. Analysts polled by StreetAccount are looking for $7.92 billion in cloud revenue and $6.06 billion from software.
The report lands at a critical moment for Oracle, which has tried to position itself at the center of the artificial intelligence boom by committing to massive build-outs. While the move has been a boon for Oracle’s revenue and its backlog, investors have grown concerned about the amount of debt the company is raising and the risks it faces should the AI market slow.
The stock plummeted 23% in November, its worst monthly performance since 2001 and, as of Tuesday’s close, is 33% below its record reached in September. Still, the shares are up 33% for the year, outperforming the Nasdaq, which has gained 22% over that stretch.
Over the past decade, Oracle has diversified its business beyond databases and enterprise software and into cloud infrastructure, where it competes with Amazon, Microsoft and Google. Those companies are all vying for big AI contracts and are investing heavily in data centers and hardware necessary to meet expected demand.
OpenAI, which sparked the generative AI rush with the launch of ChatGPT three years ago, has committed to spending more than $300 billion on Oracle’s infrastructure services over five years.
“Oracle’s job is not to imagine gigawatt-scale data centers. Oracle’s job is to build them,” Larry Ellison, the company’s co-founder and chairman, told investors in September.
Oracle raised $18 billion during the period, one of the biggest issuances on record for a tech company. Skeptical investors have been buying five-year credit default swaps, driving them to multiyear highs. Credit default swaps are like insurance for investors, with buyers paying for protection in case the borrower can’t repay its debt.
“Customer concentration is a major issue here, but I think the bigger thing is, How are they going to pay for this?” said RBC analyst Rishi Jaluria, who has the equivalent of a hold rating on Oracle’s stock.
During the quarter, Oracle named executives Clay Magouyrk and Mike Sicilia as the company’s new CEOs, succeeding Safra Catz. Oracle also introduced AI agents for automating various facets of finance, human resources and sales.
Executives will discuss the results and issue guidance on a conference call starting at 5 p.m. ET.