Rivian (RIVN) is set to release Q4 and full year results for 2022 on Tuesday, February 28, after the market close in what is shaping up to be a significant one as the young EV maker looks to overcome recent hurdles as it ramps production.
Here’s a brief preview of what Wall St and investors expect from Rivian’s fourth quarter results.
Rivian Q4 2022 deliveries
Rivian revealed last month it had produced 10,020 electric vehicles at its Normal, Illinois manufacturing facility during Q4 2022 while delivering 8,054 during the same period.
For the full year, Rivian produced 24,337 EVs and delivered 20,332. Despite slightly missing the company’s 25,000 full-year production guidance, it’s still an impressive accomplishment, given it only produced 1,015 vehicles by the end of 2021 (delivering 920).
Rivian’s Illinois factory will be capable of producing 150,000 EVs annually when it’s fully operational (with plans to increase it to 200,000), but until then, the automaker continues to burn through cash.
Rivian profitability
On a recent analyst call, Rivian’s CEO RJ Scaringe said it’s been a “challenging year” as the company launched four products (two versions of the EV van, the R1T, and the R1S) while trying to scale production.
In the third quarter of 2022, Rivian’s losses widened to $1.7 billion, as the company said on its Q3 earnings call:
As we produce vehicles at low volumes on production lines designed for higher volumes, we have and will continue to experience negative gross profit related to labor, depreciation, and overhead costs.
Rivian is working to improve its capital efficiency by ramping up manufacturing capabilities. The company recently added a second shift to accelerate production.
The company has noted it has the funds ($13.3 billion cash and equivalent) necessary to continue operations until at least 2025 with a substantial long-term contract from Amazon to supply over 100,000 Rivian EDVs, slated to roll out by 2030.
Rivian Q4 and full-year 2022 earnings expectations
Analysts expect Rivian to report earnings-per-share (EPS) of $-1.94 compared to $-1.88 in the third quarter.
In addition, Rivian is forecasted to report Q4 revenue of $742 million, up from $536 million in the third quarter and only $52 million in the same period last year.
Wall Street is expecting Rivian to continue burning cash with losses to remain around the same as in Q3 with about $1.7 billion.
Rivian Q4 earnings preview: What to look for
The biggest issue Rivian is facing right now is that it’s losing money on every vehicle it produces. The company was losing as much as three times ($1.7 billion loss with just over $500 million in revenue) what it was charging per vehicle in the third quarter, and that trend is expected to continue for some time.
Scaringe says these issues are “well understood” as the company shifts its focus to reducing costs and driving volume this year, which will steer them toward positive gross margins.
As the company works to lower costs and improve operating efficiency, Rivian announced earlier this month it would be laying off 6% of its workforce.
RIVN stock is down over 70% in the past year as investors have fled for safer assets.
If the company wants to regain investor confidence, it will start by showing it has a clear path toward positive gross margins. Even if Rivian makes great EVs, if it can’t build them profitably, investors will not be interested.
Check back tomorrow for Rivian’s Q4 earnings results.
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On today’s episode of Quick Charge we explore the uncertainty around the future of EV incentives, the roles different stakeholders will play in shaping that future, and our friend Stacy Noblet from energy consulting firm ICF stops by to share her take on what lies ahead.
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EV sales kept up their momentum in December 2024, with incentives playing a big role, according to the latest Cox Automotive’s Kelley Blue Book report.
December’s strong EV sales saw an average transaction price (ATP) of $55,544, which helped push the industry-wide ATP higher, according to Kelley Blue Book. The December ATP for an EV was higher year-over-year by 0.8%, slightly below the industry average, and higher month-over-month by 1.1%. Tesla ATPs were higher year-over-year by 10.5%.
Incentives for EVs remained elevated in December, although they were slightly lower month-over-month at 14.3% of ATP, down from 14.7% in November.
EV incentives were higher by an impressive 41% year-over-year and have been above 12% of ATP for six consecutive months. Strong sales incentives, which averaged more than $6,700 per sale in 2024, were one reason EV sales surpassed 1.3 million units last year, according to Cox Automotive, a new record for volume and share.
(My colleague Jameson Dow reported yesterday, “In 2024, the world sold 3.5 million more EVs than it did in the previous year … This increase is larger than the 3.2 million increase in EV sales from the previous year – meaning that EV sales aren’t just up, but that the rate of growth is itself increasing.”)
Kelley Blue Book estimated that in December, approximately 84,000 vehicles – or 5.6% of total sales – transacted at prices higher than $80,000 – the highest volume ever. KBB lumps gas cars and EVs together into this luxury vehicle category, so this is where Tesla Cybertruck is slotted.
However, Tesla bundles sales figures of Cybertruck with Model S, Model X, and Tesla Semi(!) into a category it calls “other models,” so we don’t know for sure exactly how many Cybertrucks Tesla sold in Q4, much less in December. However, Electrek‘s Fred Lambert estimates between 9,000 and 12,000 Cybertrucks were sold in Q4, and that’s not a stellar sales figure.
What will January bring when it comes to EV ATPs? What about tax credits? Check back in a month and I’ll fill you in.
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Tesla is now claiming that Cybertruck was the ‘best-selling electric pickup in US’ last year despite not even reporting the number of deliveries.
There’s a lot of context needed here.
As we often highlighted, Tesla is sadly one of, if not the most, opaque automakers regarding sales reports.
Tesla doesn’t break down sales per model or even region.
For comparison, here’s Ford’s Q4 2024 sales report compared to Tesla’s:
You could argue that Tesla has fewer models than Ford, and that’s true, but Tesla’s report literally has two lines despite having six different models.
There’s no reason not to offer a complete breakdown like all other automakers other than trying to make it hard to verify the health of each vehicle program.
This has been the case with the Cybertruck. Tesla is bundling its Cybertruck deliveries with Model S, Model X, and Tesla Semi deliveries.
Despite this lack of disclosure, Tesla has been able to claim that the Cybertruck has become “the best-selling electric pickup truck” in the US in 2024:
It very well might be true. Ford disclosed 33,510 F-150 Lightning truck deliveries in the US in 2024 while most estimates are putting Cybertruck deliveries at around 40,000 units.
Those are global deliveries, but Tesla only delivered the Cybertruck in the US, Canada, and Mexico in 2024, and most of the deliveries are believed to be in the US.
First off, Tesla had a backlog of over 1 million reservations for the Cybertruck that it has been building since 2019. This led many to believe Tesla already had years of demand baked in for the truck and that production would be the constraint.
However, based on estimates, again, because Tesla refuses to disclose the data, Cybertruck deliveries were either flat or down in Q4 versus Q3 despite Tesla introducing cheaper versions of the vehicle and ramping up production.
Again, that’s after just about 40,000 deliveries.
Furthermore, with almost 11,000 deliveries in Q4 in the US, Ford more likely than not outsold Cybertruck with the F-150 Lightning in Q4.
Electrek’s Take
Tesla is in damage control here. There’s no doubt that it is having issues selling the Cybertruck.
Inventory is full of Cybertrucks and Tesla is now discounting them and offering free lifetime Supercharging.
Tesla is great at ramping up production, and it’s clear the Cybertruck is not production-constrained anymore. It is demand-constrained despite having over 1 million reservations.
Again, those reservations were made before Tesla unveiled the production version, which happened to have less range and cost significantly more.
The upcoming cheaper single motor version should help with demand, but I have serious doubts Tesla can ramp this program up to more than 100,000 units in the US.
As a reminder, Tesla installed a production capacity of 250,000 units annually and Musk said he could see Tesla selling 500,000 Cybertrucks per year.
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