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The SNP’s three leadership candidates engaged in a fiery clash during a live Sky News debate as they failed to agree on several issues.

Ash Regan, Kate Forbes and Humza Yousaf are battling it out to replace Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon after she announced she was stepping down last month.

Taking part in a live debate on Sky News, hosted by political editor Beth Rigby, the trio tried to win over SNP voters moments after an exclusive Sky/YouGov poll found 54% of Scots want to remain part of the UK.

These are the key moments from the hour-long debate on Monday evening:

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The whole reason for the SNP’s existence – but the trio could not agree on whether it is top of their agendas.

Asked if it was their top priority, Ms Regan said Scotland was suffering disproportionately from being in the UK while Ms Forbes said her priorities are the cost of living and public services.

Mr Yousaf, seen as the continuity candidate, was the only one who answered with a straight answer, saying: “Yes, independence is my top priority.”

Regan’s Scottish currency plans

Ms Regan was grilled on her plans for establishing a Scottish currency after saying earlier in the campaign one could be introduced quickly after independence.

But she struggled to explain exactly how that would come about and what other issues would have to be addressed if Scotland becomes independent.

She said she would set up a commission to establish plans for a new monetary system but pressed on what institutions are needed for that she only said a central bank.

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Ms Regan admitted she could not give “the full details at this point” and insisted she only meant she could introduce a new currency within two months of independence if all the plans had been established beforehand by a commission.

Asked by Mr Yousaf what she would do if she became first minister in two weeks, Mr Regan said she would make the A9 road a dual carriageway but admitted she could not determine how much that would cost.

Polls, polls, polls

The trio, especially Mr Yousaf and Ms Forbes, bickered over who was more popular with the public.

Mr Yousaf insisted the momentum is behind him, despite some polls making for pretty grim reading.

He put himself over as the candidate that is popular with SNP voters, while Ms Forbes claimed she had the backing of more Scots overall.

But, in the end, it is only the SNP members who matter as they – not the wider voters – will determine who wins the leadership of their party.

Mr Yousaf accused Ms Forbes of losing SNP supporters as he boasted about overtaking her in the polls but she said she was “ahead in key metrics”.

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Humza Yousaf speaking in the SNP leadership hustings at Rothes Halls, Glenrothes. Picture date: Friday March 3, 2023.
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The Sky News poll released on Monday afternoon found 44% thought Mr Yousaf would be a bad leader, while Ms Regan came in at 39% and 36% for Ms Forbes.

But he batted off suggestions he had been a bad health minister, saying finance minister Ms Forbes had not been in a service delivery role while he has had “the most difficult and toughest jobs” in government for decades (health, transport and justice).

He defended his record as health secretary, which he started in 2021, saying waiting times were down due to the pandemic and Scotland had a speedy COVID booster roll out.

Ms Regan admitted her name is not so well-known but said she is “far from a rookie”, having been in government for nearly five years.

“I’m definitely less well known than the others but a good first minister does not depend on how well known they are but on their abilities, their plan and a good team,” she said.

Gloves came off in Sky’s SNP debate

The SNP’s facade of unity and discipline imploded live on Sky News this evening, writes Connor Gilles, Scotland Correspondent.

Outgoing First Minister Nicola Sturgeon will have been watching the drama through her fingers as the three candidates vying to replace her came to blows over their record in government.

Humza Yousaf, seen as a party favourite, pivoted his message to the members while Kate Forbes took advantage of the exclusive Sky News poll suggesting she is seen in a more favourable light with the wider electorate.

Big holes were exposed in Ash Regan’s plans for setting up a currency in the initial months of independence.

During her Beth Rigby interrogation she failed to provide details. Yousaf’s stinging retort about Regan “not having a single plan for the economy” is far from what her camp wanted to hear.

Kate Forbes has endured repeated questions over social issues and this debate was no different. She failed to fully commit to banning all forms of conversion therapy in a painful exchange.

Yousaf was hit with a barrage of statistics on his missed NHS targets. He was robust in his responses, but the reality is he can’t dodge the facts. The Sky polls suggest the majority of Scots feel the NHS is handled badly by the SNP.

The health secretary pushed the discussion back to his varied ministerial roles in an attempt to undermine his opponent’s inexperience.

The big test in the short term is who can win over the SNP voters before the much bigger job of governing a country and appeasing a restless independence movement begins.

Conversion therapy, same-sex marriage and JK Rowling

Ms Forbes made headlines early in the campaign after saying her faith means having children outside of marriage is “wrong”.

Asked about unmarried and gay married couples, she told the debate “I certainly don’t disapprove” and said she would “defend the rights of everybody in Scotland to live without harassment and fear”.

She went in strong on whether a plan to ban conversion therapy should go ahead, saying: “Conversion therapy is abhorrent.”

But she got a bit tangled up when asked about people who wanted it done to themselves, saying people “should be allowed to live freely as they choose, I do not think there should be conversion therapy in Scotland”.

Scottish National Party leadership candidate Kate Forbes during a visit to the Cairngorm Brewery in Aviemore, part of her Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch constituency. Picture date: Monday February 27, 2023.
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Mr Yousaf tried to exploit Ms Forbes’ perceived weakness with SNP voters on social issues by suggesting she is “abandoning the progressive agenda” of the party.

He claimed: “With SNP voters, the momentum is with me.”

However, Sky News polling suggests Ms Forbes is most popular with Scots, if not with SNP members.

All three were asked if JK Rowling is a national treasure following her remarks about trans people, with Ms Regan and Ms Forbes agreeing she is and was “very brave” to talk out.

Mr Yousaf agreed she is a national treasure for her books “but I disagree vehemently with her view on trans rights”.

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Labour?

The candidates were asked if they would work with Labour if they were to win the next general election as polls suggest.

Ms Regan and Ms Forbes said they would while Mr Yousaf said he would “work with anyone to kick out the Tories”.

Mr Yousaf said his price to work with Labour would be if they gave him the power to hold another referendum.

The other two also agreed on that but differed in their opinions of the Labour Party.

Mr Yousaf called Sir Keir Starmer a “pale imitation” of a Tory and Ms Forbes said she would “always side with fellow progressive parties”.

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Alaska’s quiet is pierced with a cacophony of questions over Trump-Putin summit

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On the Alaska governor’s desk, the horned skull of a musk ox, an ice age relic, is proudly displayed, resting on a collage of pictures of the state.

It was hunted by Mike Dunleavy himself on a trip to an island in the Bering Sea, the narrow strait of water which separates the US from Russia, where Vladimir Putin’s plane will cross into American airspace before his first foray onto US soil in almost a decade.

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The governor, the state’s most senior politician, proudly tells me that there is another trophy from his hunting trips on show in the nearby airport, a large brown bear hide, encased in glass.

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Alaska is a vast wilderness which is sparsely populated. But the quiet is being pierced now by a cacophony of questions over this summit.

Whittier, a port town near Anchorage, Alaska
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Whittier, a port town near Anchorage, Alaska

Why was Putin invited here? What does he want? What’s he willing to concede? And is Donald Trump about to walk into his trap?

The summit will take place on a military base on the outskirts of Anchorage, Alaska’s biggest city.

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It was thrown together at short notice so there were few venue options available, given the security that is required.

Even so, many of the visiting journalists and support staff for politicians are staying in Airbnbs because there are not enough hotel rooms available for everyone.

There is the sense that this is a momentous occasion.

Downtown Anchorage is seen in June. File pic: AP
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Downtown Anchorage is seen in June. File pic: AP

The last time Putin met a US president was in 2021, when he exchanged starkly differing views with Joe Biden in Geneva.

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But that was before his invasion of Ukraine in 2022. He’s been a pariah ever since, wanted by the International Criminal Court for alleged war crimes, including the abduction of Ukrainian children.

With this invite, Trump is bringing him back in from the cold.

The governor of Alaska, Mike Dunleavy
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I ask Governor Dunleavy whether Putin is being rewarded for his invasion of a sovereign nation.

“I don’t think so,” he replies, “I think this is an opportunity for the president to sit down face to face [with Putin].

“And the president is going to ascertain really quickly in a face-to-face meeting whether he’s serious or not for peace. It’s difficult to solve these wars unless you have a discussion with the participants.”

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‘Never Trumper’ Meg Leonard with her Ukrainian flag

In a green, timber-framed house around the corner, Meg Leonard – a one-time Republican who describes herself as a “never Trumper” – has a different view.

On a tree in her front garden, the Ukrainian flag hangs. She bought it after watching Zelenskyy’s disastrous meeting with Trump in the Oval Office in February on TV.

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Zelenskyy was mocked for not wearing a suit and told by Trump he “didn’t hold the cards” in the situation.

“I think he was denigrating the president of Ukraine and that is not good,” she says.

“Right after that, I ordered the flag and hung it up because I support Ukraine. Putin should not be allowed to take land that is not his.

“I think Donald Trump thinks he’s a strongman and that Putin should capitulate to him.

“I don’t think Putin has any intention of doing that.”

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‘Putin won’t mess around with me’

Meg says she is appalled that this meeting is taking place one-on-one, without Ukraine’s president. Trump has said that Vlodymyr Zelenskyy will be invited to any follow-up meeting.

“Trump should not be making decisions for Ukraine,” Meg says, “Zelenskyy should at least have a voice in what is being decided. It is his country and his people.

“Putin’s going to be five miles from here. He’s not welcome by me. He is an international criminal; he should be arrested. He is killing women and children, and people in hospitals.”

Whittier, a nearby port town mostly home to fishermen, boat operators and tourists
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Whittier, a nearby port town mostly home to fishermen, boat operators and tourists

But you don’t have to go far in Alaska to find a contrasting view.

In Whittier, a port town mostly home to fishermen, boat operators and tourists, wildlife photographer Tim Colley from New York thinks Trump is an underestimated dealmaker. He’s not concerned about Zelenskyy’s absence from the summit.

Wildlife photographer Tim Colley from New York
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Wildlife photographer Tim Colley from New York

“I think Trump truly wants peace,” Tim says, “At some point in time, you’ve got to decide how many more people need to die. Does Zelenskyy want to just keep throwing people into the fire?

“I think these two guys [Trump and Putin] have probably the ultimate egos in the world. I’m not sure Zelenskyy’s got the self-control to tread lightly on those egos.”

There is a symbolism to this meeting taking place in Alaska. The US bought the state from Russia in 1867. It’s an example of how territories can be traded.

Ukraine is nervous that their land may, too, be carved up, without them in the room.

Trump has promised that is not on the table in this initial meeting with Putin, but the US president is famously unpredictable.

When he met with Putin in 2018 in Helsinki, he went against his own intelligence community to side with the Russian president, suggesting there hadn’t been Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

The people of Ukraine, who are enduring a terrifying and intensifying onslaught from Russia, will watch nervously as this summit takes place thousands of miles away without an advocate for them in attendance.

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At least 56 dead and dozens missing after flash flooding in Indian Himalayas

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At least 56 people have been killed after flash flooding hit a remote, mountainous village in Indian-controlled Kashmir.

Estimates suggest at least 80 people are still missing in the devastated Himalayan village of Chasoti, in the Jammu and Kashmir region, according to local officials.

Rescue teams have brought 300 people to safety, they added.

Chasoti, around 85 miles (136km) northeast of Jammu, is the last village accessible to vehicles on the route of an annual Hindu pilgrimage to a mountainous shrine, the Machail Mata temple.

The devastating floods swept away the main community kitchen, where more than 200 pilgrims were gathered, as well as dozens of vehicles and motorbikes, officials said.

At least 50 other people are reportedly still missing. Pic AP
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At least 50 other people are reportedly still missing. Pic AP

Abdul Majeed Bichoo, a local resident from a neighbouring village, said he witnessed the bodies of eight people being pulled out from under the mud.

The 75-year-old said Chasoti had become a “sight of complete devastation from all sides”.

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“It was heartbreaking and an unbearable sight,” he continued. “I have not seen this kind of destruction of life and property in my life.”

Chasoti is a remote village in the Jammu and Kashmir region
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Chasoti is a remote village in the Jammu and Kashmir region

India’s deputy minister for science and technology, Jitendra Singh, said the floods were triggered by torrential rains.

Sudden, intense downpours over small areas – known as cloudbursts – are increasingly common in India’s Himalayan regions, which are prone to flash floods and landslides.

Last week, floodwater crashed through an entire Himalayan village in India’s Uttarakhand state.

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Last week, flash flooding swept through a village in the Uttarakhand state

Television footage showed pilgrims in Chasoti crying in fear as water flooded the village.

At least 50 of the rescued people were badly injured and were being treated in local hospitals, local official Susheel Kumar Sharma said.

Officials said the Hindu pilgrimage, which began in July and was scheduled to end on 5 September, has been suspended. More rescue teams were on the way to the area, they added.

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Ramesh Kumar, the divisional commissioner of Kishtwar district, told news agency ANI that local police and disaster response officials had reached the scene.

“Army, air force teams have also been activated. Search and rescue operations are underway,” Mr Kumar said.

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi said “the situation is being monitored closely” and offered his prayers to “all those affected by the cloudburst and flooding.”

Cloudbursts can cause intense flooding and landslides, and have increased in recent years, partly due to climate change.

Damage from the storms has also been exacerbated by unplanned development in mountain regions.

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Israeli minister announces plans for new West Bank settlement to ‘bury’ idea of Palestinian state

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Israel’s far-right finance minister has announced plans to build a new settlement in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, which he said would “bury” the idea of a Palestinian state.

Palestinians and rights groups said the settlement would effectively cut the West Bank into two separate parts and rob them of any chance to build a Palestinian state.

This comes as several countries, including the UK, said they would recognise a Palestinian state in September, unless Israel meets several conditions, including agreeing to a ceasefire in Gaza.

Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich shows the settlement scheme on a map. Pic: Reuters/Ronen Zvulun
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Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich shows the settlement scheme on a map. Pic: Reuters/Ronen Zvulun

“This reality finally buries the idea of a Palestinian state, because there is nothing to recognise and no one to recognise,” finance minister Bezalel Smotrich said as he announced the construction plans.

“Anyone in the world who tries today to recognise a Palestinian state will receive an answer from us on the ground.”

The settlement is planned to be built in E1, an open tract of land east of Jerusalem, and includes around 3,500 apartments to expand the existing settlement of Maale Adumim, Mr Smotrich said.

E1 has been eyed for Israeli development for more than two decades, but plans were halted due to pressure from the US during previous administrations.

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Now-US President Donald Trump and the US ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabee, were praised on Thursday by Mr Smotrich as “true friends of Israel as we have never had before”.

Mr Smotrich, himself a Jewish settler, told Sky News’ international correspondent Diana Magnay that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Mr Trump had agreed to the revival of the E1 scheme. There was no confirmation of this claim from either leader.

The E1 plan has not yet received its final approval, which is expected next week.

Foreign Secretary David Lammy has said the UK strongly opposes the plan, calling it a “flagrant breach of international law and must be stopped now”.

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Peace Now, which tracks settlement activity in the West Bank, said some bureaucratic steps remain before construction could begin, including the approval of Israel’s high planning council.

But if the process moves quickly, infrastructure work could start in the next few months, with the construction of homes to follow in about a year.

“The E1 plan is deadly for the future of Israel and for any chance of achieving a peaceful two-state solution. We are standing at the edge of an abyss, and the government is driving us forward at full speed,” Peace Now said in a statement.

It added that the plan was “guaranteeing many more years of bloodshed”.

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Palestinians inspect a facility damaged during an Israeli raid in the Israeli-occupied West Bank. Pic: Reuters/Raneen Sawafta

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Burnt cars are seen after an attack by Israeli settlers near Ramallah in the Israeli-occupied West Bank. Pic: Reuters/Ammar Awad

Mr Smotrich was also criticised by an Israeli rights group established by former Israel Defence Forces (IDF) soldiers, who accused the far-right politician of encouraging West Bank settlement activity while the world’s attention was on the Gaza war.

As well as official, government-approved settlements, there are also Israeli outposts, which are established without government approval and are considered illegal by Israeli authorities.

But reports suggest the government often turns a blind eye to their creation.

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Israeli heavy machinery demolishes a Palestinian building near Bethlehem in the Israeli-occupied West Bank. Pic: Reuters/Mussa Qawasma

In May, Mr Netanyahu’s government approved 22 new settlements, including the legalisation of outposts that had previously been built without authorisation.

Since the Hamas-led attacks on 7 October 2023 and Israel’s subsequent military bombardment of Gaza, more than 100 Israeli outposts have been established, according to Peace Now.

Settler violence against Palestinians has also increased, according to the UN, with an average of 118 incidents each month – up from 108 in 2023, which was already a record year.

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Bezalel Smotrich is pumped. His dreams of resettlement and annexation of the West Bank have never been closer to fruition. 

The E1 settlement plan, which would cut the West Bank from East Jerusalem, was first conceived back in 1995 by then prime minister Yitzhak Rabin.

Thirty years later, the extremist settler contingent within the government seems to be on the verge of making it a reality.

The prime minister’s office has yet to confirm Benjamin Netanyahu’s backing, but according to Smotrich, both he and President Trump are on board.

E1 (or T1 as they say they will call it, in honour of Donald Trump) would be another symbolic blow to the very notion of Palestinian statehood, as is every settlement and piece of related infrastructure which Israel builds in the occupied West Bank.

At a time when the UK, France and others all say they will recognise a Palestinian state unless Israel pushes for a ceasefire in Gaza, Netanyahu’s government is doubling down.

Per Smotrich, their response will come through roads, buildings, neighbourhoods, the spread of Jewish life across Palestinian lands in the West Bank – the creation of facts on the ground. 

The UK, France and many others in the international community may not like it, but the real power-broker here, certainly as far as Netanyahu is concerned, is Donald Trump.

He is the president who moved the US embassy to Jerusalem; his ambassador has said there is no such thing as the West Bank.

For the likes of Smotrich, that is all the encouragement they need.

Plans criticised as ‘extension of genocide’

The Palestinian foreign ministry called the settlement plan an extension of the crimes of genocide, displacement and annexation. Israel has long disputed accusations of genocide and rights abuses, saying it is acting in self-defence.

Nabil Abu Rudeineh, the Palestinian president’s spokesperson, called on the US to pressure Israel to stop the building of settlements.

Hamas said the plan was part of Israel’s “colonial, extremist” policies and called on Palestinians to confront it.

Qatar, which has been acting as a mediator between Hamas and Israel in a bid to secure a ceasefire in Gaza, said the move was a flagrant violation of international law.

“The EU rejects any territorial change that is not part of a political agreement between involved parties. So annexation of territory is illegal under international law,” European Commission spokesperson Anitta Hipper said.

Today, an estimated 700,000 Israeli settlers live in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. There is also a growing movement of Israelis wanting to build settlements in Gaza.

Settlers make up around 5% of Israel’s population and 15% of the West Bank’s population, according to data from Peace Now.

Settlements are illegal under international law and have been condemned by the UN. They are, however, authorised by the Israeli government.

Israeli troops stand guard during a weekly settlers' tour in Hebron, in the Israeli-occupied West Bank. Pic: Reuters/Mussa Qawasma
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Israeli troops stand guard during a weekly settlers’ tour in Hebron, in the Israeli-occupied West Bank. Pic: Reuters/Mussa Qawasma

According to the Israel Policy Forum, the settlement programme is intended to protect Israel’s security, with settlers acting as the first line of defence “against an invasion”.

Mr Smotrich’s settlement announcement comes after the UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand on Mr Smotrich and his fellow far-right cabinet member, Itamar Ben-Gvir, for “repeated incitements of violence against Palestinian civilians” in the West Bank.

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Foreign Secretary David Lammy said in June that the ministers had been “encouraging egregious abuses of human rights” for “months”.

Last year, Mr Smotrich, whose National Religious Party largely draws its support from settlers, ordered preparations for the annexation of the West Bank.

His popularity has fallen in recent months, with polls showing that his party would not win a single seat in parliament in elections were held today.

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