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We’re just over a month into the new MLB season, and that means it is time to start taking what we’ve seen — for better or worse — a little more seriously as the sample continues to grow.

Does that mean we should buy in to unexpected starts in Texas, Pittsburgh and Baltimore? Or ramp up the concern about the underachieving St. Louis Cardinals and New York Yankees? And what about a surging Los Angeles Dodgers squad that made a big jump on our list before a weekend showdown with the San Diego Padres (Sunday Night Baseball, 7 p.m. ET on ESPN).

Our expert panel has combined to rank every team in baseball based on a combination of what we’ve seen so far and what we already knew going into the 162-game marathon that is a full baseball season. We also asked ESPN MLB experts David Schoenfield, Bradford Doolittle, Jesse Rogers, Alden Gonzalez and Joon Lee to weigh in with observations for all 30 teams.

Week 4 | Preseason rankings

Record: 25-6

Previous ranking: 1

Tampa Bay remains the top dog in baseball, leading the majors in run differential, batting average, OPS, home runs, runs per game and team ERA. The rest of May will provide a big test, with games against the Pirates, Yankees, Orioles, Mets, Brewers, Blue Jays, Dodgers and Cubs — and only one day off. Second baseman Taylor Walls remains one of the team’s biggest surprises, tied for second among Rays position players for bWAR, behind just Wander Franco. — Lee


Record: 21-10

Previous ranking: 2

The top of the Braves’ rotation continues to dominate. Max Fried hasn’t allowed a run in three starts since returning from the IL after tweaking his hamstring on Opening Day. Bryce Elder is 3-0 with a 1.75 ERA in six starts and has allowed no earned runs in four of those starts. (Interesting to note that the Braves initially started the season with two rookies in the rotation and Elder in the minors, and he got the call only after Fried got injured.) Spencer Strider actually gave up four runs against the Mets but got the victory to improve to 4-0 with a 2.57 ERA. Charlie Morton has been solid as well. Along with Kyle Wright, if that group stays healthy it seems like the Braves have already separated themselves as having the best rotation in the NL. — Schoenfield


3. Los Angeles Dodgers

Record: 19-13

Previous ranking: 8

The Dodgers’ roster continues to turn over, young players — most recently Gavin Stone, who made his major league debut Wednesday — continue to get cycled in. But Clayton Kershaw remains a constant. Kershaw, 35, is still one of the world’s premier pitchers when healthy. He navigated the month of April with a 1.89 ERA through six starts, striking out 41 batters and walking only five in 38 innings while earning NL Pitcher of the Month honors. With Noah Syndergaard struggling, Julio Urias going through a recent rough stretch and Tony Gonsolin just now getting back, Kershaw’s contributions have been critical. They always are. — Gonzalez


Record: 16-15

Previous ranking: 4

The Astros have gotten by with sterling pitching and defense during the opening weeks of their title defense. The offense, on the other hand, has been middling in terms of runs per game and the underlying metrics have been even worse than that. Houston ranks in the bottom half of the majors in all the slash stats and in terms of isolated power, only four teams have been worse. The Astros can look forward to the eventual returns of Jose Altuve and Michael Brantley to bolster the attack but in the meantime, the scrutiny falls on free-agent addition Jose Abreu. Abreu hit just .230/.260/.262 through Tuesday and had yet to go deep as a member of the Astros. The power outage is concerning, as Abreu’s .141 isolated power last season for Chicago was easily the lowest of his career. At 36, you start to wonder if dwindling bat speed is to blame and Abreu’s average exit velocity (87.3 mph, down from a career mark of 91.6) is far from comforting. It’s obviously way too early to write off Abreu but, still, the Astros would surely like to see him swat a few balls into the Crawford Boxes sooner than later. — Doolittle


Record: 18-13

Previous ranking: 6

Toronto completed an outstanding April thanks to Matt Chapman, who put together an MVP-worthy stretch and earned Player of the Month honors, with Vladimir Guerrero Jr. and Bo Bichette also helping fuel the offense. There’s room for growth, with George Springer struggling and Alek Manoah stumbling on the mound. If Springer and Manoah start to piece things together, Toronto has the talent to challenge the Rays for the division crown. — Lee


Record: 16-15

Previous ranking: 3

Mets: While the Mets got Max Scherzer back from his suspension Wednesday and await Justin Verlander’s Mets debut on Thursday, the offense has been rather “meh” all season. Brandon Nimmo and Jeff McNeil are getting on base at a .400 clip, and Pete Alonso has been driving in runs, but several others are struggling. Francisco Lindor got off to a nice start but hasn’t homered since April 16 and has been striking out at a career-worst rate (10% worse than his career average). Starling Marte has just one home run, and Tommy Pham hasn’t produced much as the fourth outfielder. Mark Canha is well below his career norms as well. Brett Baty has taken over for Eduardo Escobar at third base. All this is a reminder that the Mets have an old lineup, even as they infuse Baty and Francisco Alvarez into it: Canha, Marte and Escobar are all 34, and Pham is 35. — Schoenfield


Record: 18-12

Previous ranking: 7

Milwaukee has been treading water since a fast start. After losing two consecutive series, the Brewers took two of three from the Angels over the weekend while hitting just .197 over a seven-day span before heading to Coors Field this week. Offense was always going to be a question mark for the Brewers, but their staff will keep them in the race. While doing little at the plate last week, Milwaukee had a 2.75 ERA over the same time frame — good for second best in the NL behind the Pirates. — Rogers


Record: 18-12

Previous ranking: 9

The Rangers appear to have righted the ship since being swept by the Reds, but Jacob deGrom going on the IL with forearm tightness will test the pitching staff. Without him, the rotation looks ordinary. As Texas holds its collective breath, the team will attempt to cover deGrom’s innings by moving Dane Dunning into the rotation. The 28-year-old’s previous chances as a starter haven’t gone well, but he has been great as a long man out of the pen this season. If that can translate to the rotation, the Rangers might be OK as long as deGrom’s IL stay isn’t an extended one. Those are big ifs, though, both about deGrom’s injury and Dunning’s ability. — Rogers


Record: 20-10

Previous ranking: 11

Even with the scorching hot start from the Rays, the O’s are inching closer to first place in the AL East. Baltimore added a few more series wins, going 8-2 in 10 games against Boston and Detroit, closing April on a 15-4 stretch. While the offense, led by Adley Rutschman, Jorge Mateo and Cedric Mullins, is carrying this team, Baltimore will need more out of its starting rotation, which currently ranks 25th among all teams in ERA. — Lee


10. San Diego Padres

Record: 17-15

Previous ranking: 10

Might Juan Soto finally be starting to heat up? The Padres’ superstar outfielder has looked a lot like, well, himself lately, slashing .333/.489/.528 over his last 10 games and accumulating four extra-base hits to begin the month of May. Manny Machado, meanwhile, has carried a 1.226 OPS over his last five games. Manny Machado, meanwhile, has carried a 1.226 OPS over his past five games. It’s a small sample, sure, but if those two get going — with Fernando Tatis Jr. getting acclimated and Xander Bogaerts continuing to produce — the Padres’ offense will become as dangerous as we all expected. — Gonzalez


Record: 17-14

Previous ranking: 12

The Twins’ notion of making Byron Buxton the most athletic designated hitter in the history of baseball has more or less paid off so far. Buxton has missed only a couple of games, and his OPS+ stood at a prodigious 141 through Tuesday. Meanwhile, the Twins have gotten some bursts of power along with a team-high three stolen bases and solid defense from Michael A. Taylor as Buxton’s primary replacement in center field. According to fWAR, the Twins are second at DH and 18th in center field. We still don’t know when the Twins plan to take the bubble wrap off Buxton’s overall game, but it will be interesting to see how their positional distribution can be optimized once they do. — Doolittle


12. New York Yankees

Record: 17-15

Previous ranking: 5

The injuries keep piling on in New York, with outfielder Aaron Judge sidelined by a hip strain, the return of reliever Jonathan Loaisiga delayed by a surgery to remove bone spurs, reliever Lou Trivino undergoing Tommy John surgery and starter Carlos Rodon still unable to pitch because of back issues. Yankees fans are starting to hit the panic button as the team sits in last place, but there are signs of hope. Harrison Bader has returned to the outfield from the IL, and rookie shortstop Anthony Volpe is emerging from his early growing pains, collecting seven hits in 24 at-bats over the past week. — Lee


Record: 20-11

Previous ranking: 14

When can we declare the Pirates are for real? A 20-9 first month that included a series win over the Dodgers is a good start, but a May schedule that includes matchups with the Rays, Blue Jays, Orioles, D-backs and Rangers will be telling. Right now, the Pirates rank in the top 10 in MLB runs scored at the plate and ERA on the mound. If they’re not for real yet, they’re at least real-ish. — Rogers

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Which surprise MLB team will win their division this year?

Jessica Mendoza and Tim Kurkjian make their picks for a surprise team to win their respective division in 2023.

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Which surprise MLB team will win their division this year?

Jessica Mendoza and Tim Kurkjian make their picks for a surprise team to win their respective division in 2023.


Record: 15-17

Previous ranking: 17

Bryce Harper made his quick return from Tommy John surgery Tuesday and went 0-for-4 with three strikeouts, but a little rust is to be expected because he didn’t play in any minor league rehab games. According to ESPN research, it’s the fastest return any player has made from Tommy John surgery. He’s still not throwing, but he’s swinging at full strength. As one of the more deliberate hitters in the game, he’ll also have to adjust to the pitch clock without the advantage of spring training. Before losing the just completed series against the Dodgers, the Phillies had won four series in a row against the White Sox, Rockies, Mariners and Astros. Zack Wheeler won all three of his starts in that stretch, including his best outing so far of 2023, six scoreless innings against Houston. — Schoenfield


Record: 18-14

Previous ranking: 19

If you blinked, you might have missed that Boston has turned things around after a slow start. Right fielder Alex Verdugo and reliever Josh Winckowski are among the two biggest surprises, but recent performances from outfielder Jarren Duran and catcher Connor Wong could take the Red Sox to another level. After a bumpy 2022 that included run-ins with fans, Duran is carrying himself with a new confidence, reflected in his batting line of .396/.414/.679. Wong also continues to impress, hitting two homers in a game against the Blue Jays on Tuesday night, including one that brought in the go-ahead run. — Lee


Record: 15-15

Previous ranking: 13

Getting swept by the Marlins to end the month took some luster off a good start by the Cubs, who are now battling to stay above .500. Cody Bellinger looks like he has returned to near-MVP form, though. He slashed .297/.371/.604 in April a year after compiling a .206/.275/.438 mark over the same time frame. What changed? This year, he has been on time with a leveled-out swing that is producing both power and simple base knocks. He has also been as speedy as ever while playing a near flawless center field for the Cubs. — Rogers


Record: 17-14

Previous ranking: 16

Zac Gallen finished fifth in NL Cy Young Award voting last year and might be on track to outright win it this year. The 27-year-old right-hander has thrown the fifth-most innings in the majors but boasts a 2.53 ERA with the sixth-lowest WHIP and the second-highest strikeout-to-walk ratio. Gallen put together four consecutive scoreless starts before giving up three runs in five innings against the surging Rangers on Tuesday. He might have another one of those runs in him. — Gonzalez


Record: 17-14

Previous ranking: 20

The Angels had a sneaky good starting rotation last season, and they need to get back to that. The foursome of Tyler Anderson, Jose Suarez, Reid Detmers and Griffin Canning — so, everybody outside of Shohei Ohtani and Patrick Sandoval — have combined for a 5.72 ERA through their first 18 starts. Suarez in particular had a 10.26 ERA through his first four starts but contributed five scoreless innings against the Brewers on Sunday, an encouraging sign considering he, like most of the Angels’ pitchers, is out of options and basically needs to figure it out in the major leagues. There’s upside with that entire group. — Gonzalez


Record: 14-17

Previous ranking: 15

The Guardians’ No. 14 ranking in rotation ERA is a modest improvement over last season’s slot at No. 20, but perhaps that improvement looks more impressive when you consider Cleveland has been without Triston McKenzie and Aaron Civale for all but two Civale starts. Even more encouraging is that the Guardians’ starting pitching factory seems to once again be churning out the quality arms. It has been only seven starts combined for rookies Peyton Battenfield, Logan T. Allen (not to be confused with former Cleveland pitching prospect Logan S. Allen) and Tanner Bibee, but the trio has been impressive. Together over those seven outings, Battenfield, Allen and Bibee have put up a 2.89 ERA with 41 strikeouts, 10 walks and four homers allowed over 37⅓ innings. — Doolittle


Record: 14-16

Previous ranking: 18

Bryce Miller, the team’s top pitching prospect, made his major league debut Tuesday, and it was impressive. He took a perfect game into the sixth inning and finished with 10 strikeouts and no walks in six innings while allowing one run. He averaged 95.3 mph with his fastball, topping out at 97.3, and had excellent command of it at the top of the strike zone. He became the first Mariners pitcher with 10 strikeouts in his debut and joined Stephen Strasburg and Johnny Cueto as the only pitchers with 10 K’s and no walks. He ended up throwing 57 four-seam fastballs out of 81 pitches, along with 16 cutters, seven sliders and one changeup, so we’ll see if the fastball-heavy approach can continue to work against teams better than the A’s. — Schoenfield


21. St. Louis Cardinals

Record: 10-21

Previous ranking: 21

A rough start got even worse for the Cardinals during a 10-game West Coast swing to end the month. They went just 2-8 in series losses to the Mariners, Giants and Dodgers. St. Louis would like to forget the entire month of April after posting a 10-19 record that was second worst in the NL, ahead of only the Colorado Rockies. There’s still a chance St. Louis turns it around, but it’s going to need to start with the rotation after the starters had an ERA nearing 5.00 ERA over the season’s first month. It’s too early to count the Cardinals out, but sometimes — no matter how good you are on paper — it’s just not your year, and the hole they’ve dug suggests this could be one of those seasons. — Rogers


Record: 16-15

Previous ranking: 22

The Marlins swept the Cubs over the weekend by scores of 3-2, 7-6 and 4-3, improving their record in one-run games to an incredible 10-0 — the first team to win its first 10 one-run games since the 2004 Dodgers. That gave them a 16-13 record at the end of April, their best opening month since 2011 when they were 16-9. (The Marlins were 31-22 at the end of May that year but fell apart with a 5-23 record in June and finished 72-90. They haven’t finished above .500 in a full season since 2009.) Maybe the Marlins were due for some good luck in this department: They were 24-40 in one-run games in 2022, the most one-run losses since the 1975 Astros. Luis Arraez‘s .438 average at the end of April was also the highest through the first month since Barry Bonds hit .472 in 2004. Now if they can just get Sandy Alcantara back in his 2022 groove. — Schoenfield


Record: 13-17

Previous ranking: 23

The Giants were reeling. They had lost four in a row, and several members of their clubhouse were fighting stomach viruses coming off a weekend trip in Mexico City. They needed someone to carry them going into Tuesday’s game against the reigning-champion Astros, and Anthony Desclafani did just that, pitching eight scoreless innings in a much-needed victory. DeSclafani, limited to five starts last season, has a 2.13 ERA and has issued only three walks in 38 innings this season. With Alex Wood on the injured list, Sean Manaea struggling and Logan Webb only now turning the corner, he has been a major lift. — Gonzalez


Record: 13-18

Previous ranking: 26

Cincinnati had a under-the-radar good week after sweeping the first-place Rangers and winning a series against the lowly A’s. Center fielder Nick Senzel had a scorching seven-day stretch when he went 10-for-18 (.556) with three home runs. His OPS (1.730) over that span was second only to the Giants’ LaMonte Wade Jr. — who got to play in the high altitude of Mexico City. Hunter Greene looked magnificent while striking out 10 over just five innings in Saturday’s win over Oakland and now sports a 2.89 ERA for the season. — Rogers


Record: 10-21

Previous ranking: 24

The White Sox snapped a 10-game losing streak so dire that it at times looked like they might never win another game. They followed that with two straight last at-bat wins and in between, Chicago shuffled the roster in an attempt to keep pointed in the right direction. Back to the minors go Oscar Colas, who was struggling badly both at the plate and in the field, and Lenyn Sosa, who fielded OK despite some mental lapses but didn’t hit at all. Tim Anderson is back from the IL, and veteran Billy Hamilton was recalled to help the defense and serve as a high-octane pinch runner. Finally, veteran reliever Alex Colome is back in the majors and while it remains to be seen if he has much left to offer, he almost has to help this stat: Through Tuesday, the White Sox sported a 7.65 ERA from the seventh inning on this season, nearly a run worse than every other team in the majors. — Doolittle


Record: 12-17

Previous ranking: 25

Since the beginning of last season, it has been easy to illustrate Detroit’s problems through the prism of a pair of splashy free agent signings that until recently had simply not worked out. Well, lo and behold, suddenly the Tigers can point to the performances of Eduardo Rodriguez and Javier Baez as evidence that things are turning around. After a couple of so-so starts, Rodriguez has been on a roll, allowing just two runs over his past four starts for a minuscule 0.68 ERA. His ERA for the season is now 2.21 after six starts. Baez, meanwhile, has recovered from a frigid start at the plate by hitting .340 over his final 14 games of April. He never homered in April but went deep on May 2 against the Mets. Through the offensive ups and downs, Baez’s defensive metrics have been top of the charts all season. — Doolittle


Record: 12-18

Previous ranking: 28

After allowing the second-most runs in the majors last season, the Nationals’ run prevention has been much improved as they rank 19th in runs allowed per game (through Tuesday). That won’t win any awards, but it’s better than the Cardinals, Phillies, Giants, Red Sox or White Sox, all supposed playoff contenders at the start of the season. The problem is the offense and the lack of power, as the Nationals are last in MLB in home runs. Dominic Smith, Joey Meneses and Lane Thomas each have just one home run. Smith raked with the Mets in 2019 and 2020 (150 OPS+ across 396 plate appearances) but hasn’t been the same hitter since even though he’s still only 27. He played through a partially torn labrum in his shoulder in 2021, and you have to wonder if he has never fully recovered from that injury given his poor exit velocities this season. — Schoenfield


28. Colorado Rockies

Record: 11-20

Previous ranking: 27

The Rockies finished the month of April tied for the fewest stolen bases and the third-fewest home runs in the major leagues. They ranked 26th in OPS, 29th in starting pitcher ERA, 26th in relief pitcher WHIP and 30th — dead last — in outs above average. They are thoroughly bad, in all areas, with scant signs of being a whole lot better – especially now that their best pitcher, German Marquez, is headed for Tommy John surgery. And they’ll need far better months to maintain any shred of respectability within the NL West. — Gonzalez


Record: 8-23

Previous ranking: 29

This week’s edition of Discouraging Royals Stats concerns age and experience. As bad as the season has been, Royals fans can’t necessarily take solace in the idea that it’s a young team finding its way. The team’s hitters are pretty young overall, but they’ve gotten virtually nothing from rookies. A big reason for this is that Kansas City promoted so many hitters last season, but it’s still startling that before Kansas City recalled infield prospect Maikel Garcia on May 2, their contributions from rookie hitters amounted to seven plate appearances by reserve catcher Freddy Fermin. Meanwhile, through Tuesday, only the Royals and the Blue Jays had exactly zero innings pitched by players with their rookie eligibility still intact. The Royals’ team pitching age (30.1, per baseball-reference.com) made them one of eight teams with a 30-something pitching staff. — Doolittle


Record: 6-25

Previous ranking: 30

How bad are the Athletics? They played 28 games in April without a win by a starting pitcher, the most for a calendar month in MLB history according to ESPN Stats & Information. The Athletics’ starting rotation went a combined 0-15 with a 8.51 ERA during the month, more than two runs higher than the second-worst team in baseball. As it stands, Oakland is on pace for the third-worst record in baseball history, behind the 1899 Cleveland Spiders and 1890 Pittsburgh Alleghenys. These A’s could challenge the 2003 Detroit Tigers — who went 43-119 — for the worst record in this century. — Lee

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ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. — A combination of severe hurricane damage to Tropicana Field and political delays on financing means it is highly unlikely the Tampa Bay Rays‘ planned new stadium will be ready for the 2028 season, if at all, the team said Tuesday.

Rays top executives said in a letter to the Pinellas County Commission that the team has already spent $50 million for early work on the new $1.3 billion ballpark and cannot proceed further because of delays in approval of bonds for the public share of the costs.

“The Rays organization is saddened and stunned by this unfortunate turn of events” said the letter, signed by co-presidents Brian Auld and Matt Silverman, who noted that the overall project was previously approved by the County Commission and the City of St. Petersburg.

“As we have made clear at every step of this process, a 2029 ballpark delivery would result in significantly higher costs that we are not able to absorb alone,” the letter added.

The tumultuous series of events came after Hurricane Milton ripped the roof off Tropicana Field on Oct. 9, forcing the Rays to play the 2025 season at the spring training home of the New York Yankees, 11,000-seat Steinbrenner Field in Tampa. Then, the Pinellas County Commission postponed a planned Oct. 29 vote on the bond issue that the Rays said has thrown the new 30,000-seat ballpark timeline off.

The commission was meeting again Tuesday on the bond issue, but its chair suggested a vote could be delayed again.

“We know we’re going to be in Steinbrenner in 2025 and we don’t know much beyond that,” Auld said in an interview.

Asked if Major League Baseball can survive long-term in the Tampa Bay area, Rays Principal Owner Stuart Sternberg said the outlook is “less rosy than it was three weeks ago. We’re going to do all that we can, as we’ve tried for 20 years, to keep the Rays here for generations to come.”

The team’s contract with the city of St. Petersburg requires that the Rays play three more seasons at Tropicana Field assuming it is repaired. The cost of fixing the ballpark in time for the 2026 season is pegged at more than $55 million for a building scheduled to be torn down when the new facility is ready.

Under the original plan, Pinellas County would spend about $312.5 million for the new ballpark and the city of St. Petersburg around $417 million including infrastructure improvements. The Rays and their partner, the Hines development company, would cover the remaining costs including any overruns.

It isn’t just baseball that is affected. The new Rays ballpark is part of a larger urban renovation project known as the Historic Gas Plant District, which refers to a predominantly Black neighborhood that was forced out by construction of Tropicana Field and an interstate highway spur.

The broader $6.5 billion project would transform an 86-acre (34-hectare) tract in the city’s downtown, with plans in the coming years for a Black history museum, affordable housing, a hotel, green space, entertainment venues, and office and retail space. There’s the promise of thousands of jobs as well.

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From 13-0 to 1-9: How historically bad has Florida State’s collapse been?

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It was easy to wonder if there might be a little bit of a hangover this season. Mike Norvell weathered a strange, stair-stepping climb to greatness with Florida State — his Seminoles went 3-10 in his first 13 games, then 9-6 in the next 15, then won 19 in a row — but endured one of the most gut-wrenching season finishes you’ll ever see. First, the unbeaten Noles were snubbed out of a spot in the final four-team College Football Playoff; then, with a number of starters having either opted out or opted for season-ending surgery, they got completely humiliated 63-3 by Georgia in the Orange Bowl.

Norvell said all the proper things in spring ball, and despite 14 new starters, his reputation for finding difference-makers in the transfer portal got FSU ranked 10th in the preseason AP poll. But instead of a hangover, or a slow start, his Noles have completely no-showed in 2024.

Florida State’s win percentage has fallen by 82.9 percentage points at the moment, from 0.929 to 0.100. In the history of top-division college football, there have been 14,788 teams; only three have had their win percentage fall by more than that, and two played during World War I: 1917 Colorado State (from 6-0-1 to 0-7-1), 1919 Colorado Mines (from 4-0 to 0-4-2) and 2012 Southern Miss (from 12-2 to 0-12). The Seminoles are likely to finish 2-10, beating Charleston Southern this coming weekend and then losing to rival Florida. Those results would drop them to merely the eighth-largest win percentage collapse ever, behind four more teams from 1950 or earlier.

If you prefer advanced stats, FSU has also cratered by that measure: The Seminoles finished ninth in SP+ last season but are currently 92nd. In terms of percentile ratings, they’ve fallen from 94.1% to 33.0%. Granted, there’s still a sliver of friendly preseason projections impacting the current ratings, so the Noles could fall even further over the last couple of games, but that 61.1% drop is still the 40th largest on record and the fourth largest of the 2000s behind 2018 Louisville (from 87.8% to 15.1%), 2012 Southern Miss (from 73.1% to 4.5%) and 2009 Ball State (from 75.6% to 12.5%).

Like FSU with Jordan Travis, all three of those 21st century peers lost star quarterbacks from breakthrough teams — Southern Miss lost Conference USA-winning Austin Davis, Ball State lost Nate Davis and Louisville lost Heisman winner Lamar Jackson — and both BSU (Brady Hoke) and Southern Miss (Larry Fedora) had lost their respective head coaches to bigger jobs. Louisville, meanwhile, ended the Bobby Petrino era 10 games into 2018, as his Cardinals kept getting worse and worse.

Norvell isn’t a first-year coach, and by all accounts it appears he will keep his job into 2025, even if it has required the jettisoning of assistants. I like turning to the history books to get an idea for what might happen in the future, but this one’s tricky: When a team collapses with this level of force, it’s usually at either the start or end of a coach’s tenure (or, in the case of Southern Miss’ Ellis Johnson in 2012, both).

Acknowledging both the uniqueness of the coaching situation and the severity of the fall, however, I did find 10 reasonably decent comps. Here are 10 postwar, major-conference teams (or major independents) that (a) collapsed by at least 50.0% in terms of both SP+ percentile rating and win percentage, (b) did so with a coach that was not in his first season and (c) kept that coach for the following season. How long did it take each program to rebound? Did it happen under the same coach? Let’s take a look.


1946 Oklahoma State

Head coach: Jim Lookabaugh (eighth year)

Change in record: from 9-0 to 3-7-1

Change in SP+ ranking: from seventh to 82nd

What happened: Like Mike Gundy, Lookabaugh was a former OSU player who thrived as the Cowboys’ head coach. In 1944-45, they went 17-1, winning a Cotton Bowl and a Sugar Bowl and claiming a share of the 1945 national title. But in the postwar years, his program fell back to where it was prewar. Following their collapse in 1946, they went 3-7 again in 1947 before rebounding to go 6-4 with a Delta Bowl bid — they lost 20-0 to William & Mary — in 1948. Following a 4-4-2 season in 1949, Lookabaugh retired and moved into real estate.

The Cowboys’ next good season: 1953. Jennings Whitworth led the Pokes to a 7-3 campaign and parlayed that into the Alabama job a year later.


1956 Notre Dame

Head coach: Terry Brennan (third year)

Change in record: from 8-2 to 2-8

Change in SP+ ranking: from 12th to 84th

What happened: A star halfback for Notre Dame in the postwar years, Brennan was rushed into the head-coaching role at age 25 following Frank Leahy’s health-related retirement. He steered the ship well for a while, going 17-3 in 1954-55, but things fell apart during a massive youth movement in 1956 (albeit one in which Paul Hornung still won the Heisman). The growing pains produced improvement in the coming years, and Notre Dame was talented enough to end Oklahoma’s famed 47-game winning streak with a 7-0 upset in 1957 and finish 10th in the AP poll. But for the most part, the Irish were merely solid in 1957-58, beating poor teams, mostly losing to good ones and going 13-7 overall. Brennan was fired with a 32-18 record and replaced by NFL coach Joe Kuharich, who went just 17-23.

The Fighting Irish’s next good season: 1964. Granted, 1957 was pretty good under Brennan, but the Irish were mediocre for quite a few years under Kuharich and Hugh Devore before first-year coach Ara Parseghian engineered a 9-1 charge and No. 3 AP finish in 1964. They would win the national title two years later.


1960 SMU

Head coach: Bill Meek (fourth year)

Change in record: from 5-4-1 to 0-9-1

Change in SP+ ranking: from 34th to 91st

What happened: After landing his first head-coaching job at age 30, Bill Meek was 36 when he took over at SMU in 1957, with the team less than a decade removed from back-to-back top-10 finishes. Led by Dandy Don Meredith’s passing, the Mustangs finished 18th in the AP poll in 1958, and they began 1959 ranked fourth. But they went just 5-4-1 against a brutal schedule (they were 1-4 against ranked opponents), then totally collapsed in 1960 following Meredith’s graduation.

Meek stayed for 1961 but went just 2-7-1 and moved on to front office roles with the Denver Broncos and Dallas Cowboys. SMU replaced him with Hayden Fry.

The Mustangs’ next good season: 1966. Fry’s tenure began with four straight losing seasons, but he brought the Mustangs back to the Cotton Bowl, with a No. 10 AP finish, in Year 5.


1961 Illinois

Head coach: Pete Elliott (second year)

Change in record: from 5-4 to 0-9

Change in SP+ ranking: from 36th to 103rd

What happened: An All-America quarterback at Michigan, Elliott led Cal to the Rose Bowl in 1958 before returning to the Big Ten to succeed Ray Eliot in 1960. Eliot had gone just 32-35-5 since a Rose Bowl bid in 1951, and Elliott went just 5-4 in his first season before an absolute collapse in Year 2. He was building something, though. After going just 2-7 in 1962, a talented Illini squad led by All-Americans Dick Butkus and Archie Sutton charged to 8-1-1 and won the Rose Bowl. They were above .500 in 1964 and ’65, too, but Elliott resigned in 1967 when Illinois became embroiled in a slush fund scandal.

The Illini’s next good season: 1963. The Illini beat two top-five teams (Northwestern and Michigan State) and topped Washington 17-7 in the Rose Bowl. This collapse actually had a happy ending of sorts. As long as you ignore that whole “slush fund” thing.


1985 Boston College

Head coach: Jack Bicknell (fifth year)

Change in record: from 10-2 to 4-8

Change in SP+ ranking: from 11th to 62nd

What happened: We’ve heard a lot about the “Flutie effect” through the years, where a school that enjoys sudden football success sees a burst of notoriety, higher application rates and so on. The initial effects of losing Flutie, however, weren’t great for Boston College. Following Flutie’s Heisman run and BC’s 10-win campaign and top-five finish in 1984, the Eagles quickly fell back to earth with poor Shawn Halloran behind center in 1985. After a wobbly 3-3 start, they lost five in a row and finished 4-8.

BC began 1986 in poor form again, starting just 1-3, but Halloran and the Eagles won eight straight from there, eventually beating Georgia 27-24 in the Hall of Fame Bowl.

The Eagles’ next good season: 1986. The rebound was swift. It was also short-lived. Bicknell would average just 3.5 wins over the next four seasons and, in 1991, he moved on to become head coach of the World League of American Football’s Barcelona Dragons, and in 1992-93 the Eagles surged briefly under Tom Coughlin.


1991 Louisville

Head coach: Howard Schnellenberger (seventh year)

Change in record: from 10-1-1 to 2-9

Change in SP+ ranking: from 32nd to 103rd

What happened: I’m including Louisville here even though there was nothing “major” about the Cardinals program before Schnellenberger got a hold of it. They had finished ranked only once — they went 9-1 under Lee Corso in 1972 and finished 18th as part of the Missouri Valley — but finished under .500 every year from 1979-87. After going 14-8 under Schnellenberger in 1988-89, however, they charged to 10-1-1 and walloped No. 25 Alabama 34-7 in the Fiesta Bowl. It was a miraculous building job, but with quarterback Browning Nagle off to the pros and replacement Jeff Brohm injured early in the season, the Cardinals fell apart in 1991. They would rebound to 5-6 with a healthy Brohm in 1992, then broke through the following season.

The Cardinals’ next good season: 1993. Brohm threw for 2,626 yards (a good number for the day), and the Cardinals upset No. 23 Arizona State as part of a 7-1 start. They capped a 9-3 season with an 18-7 comeback win over Michigan State in the Liberty Bowl. Schellenberger would leave for Oklahoma a year later.


1998 Washington State

Head coach: Mike Price (10th year)

Change in record: from 10-2 to 3-8

Change in SP+ ranking: from 14th to 71st

What happened: Mike Price built a cyclical power in Pullman. The Cougars would slowly grow as a roster core matured, break through with a certain level of experience and then start over again. However, following the success of quarterback Ryan Leaf & Co. in 1997 — Wazzu won 10 games, reached the Rose Bowl for just the second time and finished in the AP top 10 for the first time — it took a little while to put the pieces back together. The Cougs went just 10-24 from 1998-2000. But Price’s next awesome quarterback, Jason Gesser, led a charge starting in 2001.

The Cougars’ next good season: 2001. The Cougs started 7-0, lost only to Oregon and Washington, both ranked, and beat Purdue 33-27 in the Sun Bowl. Both Gesser and Wazzu would raise their game further the next year, winning 10 games, reaching the Rose Bowl and finishing in the AP top 10 for the second of three straight seasons. (The third season would take place without Price, who left for an ill-fated stint at Alabama.)


2007 Notre Dame

Head coach: Charlie Weis (third year)

Change in record: from 10-3 to 3-9

Change in SP+ ranking: from 26th to 87th

What happened: Congratulations to Notre Dame, the only team to show up on this list twice.

Following an impeccable 19-4 start as Irish head coach, Charlie Weis’ second season finished in disappointing fashion with blowout losses against both No. 3 USC and No. 4 LSU. Notre Dame lost eight offensive starters, including quarterback Brady Quinn (who was replaced by true freshman Jimmy Clausen), and Weis replaced defensive coordinator Rick Minter with Corwin Brown. The result: a historic collapse.

Like 2024 FSU, Notre Dame began the season 1-9, a run that included the Irish’s first loss to Navy since 1963. Notre Dame lost to three ranked opponents by a combined 96-24, and late-season wins over dire Duke and Stanford teams only redeemed things so much. They would improve in the following seasons, but only to 7-6 and 6-6, and Weis was dumped at the end of 2009.

The Fighting Irish’s next good season: 2012. Brian Kelly replaced Weis and went 8-5 in each of his first two seasons before an experienced squad, led by a strong offensive line and all-world linebacker Manti Te’o, went 12-0 in the regular season and reached the BCS championship game. It was the first of four top-10 seasons for Kelly in South Bend.


2021 Northwestern

Head coach: Pat Fitzgerald (16th year)

Change in record: from 7-2 to 3-9

Change in SP+ ranking: from 31st to 101st

What happened: Like Mike Price, Pat Fitzgerald succeeded in cycles. Between 2011 and 2019, Northwestern combined four losing records with four seasons of nine or more wins, and they likely would have won nine or more with a full season’s work in the COVID-abbreviated 2020 season too. They went 6-1 and qualified for the Big Ten championship game, where they led Ohio State late in the third quarter before succumbing 22-10. A Citrus Bowl win capped the school’s first top-10 finish in 25 years.

In 2021, however, the Wildcats entered the season with the nation’s lowest returning production. It showed. The defense went from great to decent, and the offense went from below average to horrendous. NU would go just 4-20 over the next two seasons, then Fitzgerald was fired for off-field reasons.

The Wildcats’ next good season: 2023. It didn’t turn out to be a sustainable recipe — Northwestern is right back to 4-6 this season with only a 5% chance of winning out to reach bowl eligibility, per SP+ — but under interim coach David Braun, the Wildcats went 6-2 in one-score finishes to reach 8-5 overall. That’s not as good as Fitzgerald’s best years, but it was still a seven-win improvement over the previous season.


2021 Indiana

Head coach: Tom Allen (fifth year)

Change in record: from 6-2 to 2-10

Change in SP+ ranking: from 18th to 94th

What happened: After an 8-5 campaign in 2019, their best season in 26 years, Tom Allen’s Hoosiers took another step forward in 2020, going 6-1 in the COVID-abbreviated regular season, losing only a tight game against unbeaten Ohio State and technically earning a spot in the Big Ten championship game before an emergency rule change left them out.

Michael Penix Jr. was brilliant until tearing his ACL in the sixth game, and the Hoosiers finished the season with a bowl loss against Ole Miss. Penix returned in 2021, but he was rusty and inconsistent, and he suffered another season-ending injury in early October. After a 2-2 start, Indiana lost eight straight games. Allen could never right the ship, going just 7-17 in 2022-23, his last two seasons in charge.

The Hoosiers’ next good season: 2024. A coaching change (to Curt Cignetti) and a roster flip have completely reversed IU’s fortunes. The Hoosiers are 10-0 for the first time; they are a modern turnaround story in terms of just how much you can change in a short amount of time. (The changes aren’t guaranteed to work — just ask 2024 Florida State — but there are new opportunities on the table now.)


Obviously an exercise like this is more anecdotal than scientific. Both collapses and rebounds are potentially easier, for better or worse, in an era with greater roster flexibility and potential turnover, and just because it took Hayden Fry a while to get SMU going again in the 1960s doesn’t necessarily mean much for Mike Norvell.

Still, from the old “history doesn’t repeat itself, but it does rhyme” perspective, it is perhaps noteworthy that of the 10 teams above, only one rebounded immediately (1986 Boston College), but six had bounced back within three years, including six of the seven most recent examples. Only four of those six rapid rebounds happened with the same coach in charge, and each of the two examples from this decade turned around immediately with a new coach. Even Louisville, which crumbled so thoroughly to the ground in Bobby Petrino’s final season, bounced straight back to 8-5 the next season under Scott Satterfield.

Florida State probably isn’t going to be this horrendously awful for long, in other words. It was almost impossible for this to happen once — this genuinely is one of the greatest collapses this very old sport has ever seen — and it probably won’t happen again. But the odds of a full rebound under Norvell aren’t great either. He will bring new assistants and, most likely, another large transfer class to Tallahassee in 2025, but the collapse exposed a level of fragility within the program that might eventually require a head-coaching change to completely fix.

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Pirates' Skenes, Yanks' Gil named Rookies of Year

On the penultimate day of the regular season, the New York Yankees and Pittsburgh Pirates met on a cloudy afternoon at Yankee Stadium for a game of little consequence. The Yankees had already clinched the American League East title. The last-place Pirates were 24 hours from another long offseason.

But the game featured an intriguing matchup within the matchup: two starting pitchers with vastly different backgrounds and histories who happened to be leading contenders for the Rookie of the Year Award in their respective leagues to the mound opposite each other.

For the Pirates: Paul Skenes, the hyped generational talent 14 months removed from college. For the Yankees: Luis Gil, a 26-year-old revelation two-plus years removed from Tommy John surgery.

Nearly two months after that meeting, the two right-handers were recognized Monday as the best rookies in their leagues. Skenes was voted the National League’s Rookie of the Year, beating out a loaded field headlined by outfielders Jackson Merrill and Jackson Chourio after posting one of the best rookie seasons for a pitcher in major league history. Gil edged out teammate and catcher Austin Wells and Baltimore Orioles outfielder Colton Cowser to win the award in the American League in a tight race.

Skenes, who debuted less than a year after being selected with the No. 1 pick in the 2023 draft, surpassed expectations in his first taste of the big leagues to become the second Rookie of the Year award winner in Pirates history (Jason Bay, 2004) with 23 of the 30 first-place votes. With the honor, he earned a full year of service time despite not being called up to the majors until May, making him eligible for free agency after the 2029 season.

“Our goal, first and foremost, was to make all my starts,” said Skenes, a former two-way star at Air Force who became a full-time pitcher his junior season at LSU in 2023. “And then, beyond that, it was basically to see the best version of me that I can be out there. So I felt very good about that this year. Stayed healthy and felt really good the entire year. And then the results, I think, speak for themselves.”

Skenes, 22, went 11-3 with a 1.96 ERA in 23 starts across 133 innings. His 1.96 ERA was the lowest for any rookie with at least 20 starts in the live ball era, dating to 1920, and the lowest in baseball in 2024 among pitchers with at least 130 innings pitched. His 0.95 WHIP was tied for best in the National League. His 170 strikeouts were a franchise rookie record. His 4.3 fWAR ranked 10th among major league pitchers. With the performance, he was selected one of the three finalists for the NL Cy Young Award along with veterans Chris Sale and Zack Wheeler. That winner will be announced Wednesday.

On Monday, Merrill finished second with the other seven first-place votes and Chourio in third. Merrill, a shortstop in the minors through last season, was the San Diego Padres‘ starting center fielder on Opening Day at just 20 years old. He excelled in all facets, finishing the season with a .292/.326/.500 slash line, 24 home runs, 90 RBIs and 16 steals in 156 games while playing above-average defense. His 5.3 fWAR led all rookies.

Chourio, who doesn’t turn 21 until March, signed an $82 million extension last offseason before making his major league debut and, after a slow start, lived up to the investment. Chourio went on a tear after carrying a .201 batting average and .575 OPS through June 1, batting .305 with 16 home runs and an .888 OPS over his final 97 games.

In the American League, Gil tallied 15 of the 30 first-place votes, narrowly topping Cowser, who finished with 13 first-place votes and five points behind Gil. Oakland A’s closer Mason Miller and Cleveland Guardians reliever Cade Smith each earned one first-place vote. The five-point differential marks the second-closest election in an AL Rookie of the Year race since the three-player ballot was introduced in 2003.

“I was focused on having a good year, on helping the team win as much as I could and being focused on my career,” Gil said.

Gil entered spring training an afterthought in the Yankees’ plan, slated to start the season in the minors after being sent to minor league camp in early March. The Yankees had their starting rotation set. Gil had electric stuff but command was a concern and he logged only four innings in A-ball in 2023 after undergoing Tommy John surgery in 2022. Then Gerrit Cole, the reigning AL Cy Young Award winner, was shut down because of an elbow injury shortly thereafter, opening a spot for Gil. He did not relinquish it.

Gil went 15-7 with a 3.50 ERA in 29 starts. He led all AL rookies in wins, innings pitched (151⅔) and strikeouts (171). His 1.82 ERA through 12 starts helped the Yankees navigate the club’s 2½ months without Cole to start the season and solidified his place in the rotation for the remainder of the season. He gave up one or fewer hits in five outings, tied for the most by a rookie since the mound was moved to 60 feet, six inches in 1893, according to ESPN Research. He didn’t giver up an earned run in six of his starts, the most by a Yankees rookie since 1913.

Signed by the Minnesota Twins out of the Dominican Republic in 2015 and traded to the Yankees three years later, Gil is the 10th Yankees player to win the honor. He is the first Yankee to win it since Aaron Judge in 2017 and the first Yankees pitcher since Dave Righetti in 1981. He is the fifth Dominican-born player to win the award.

“He worked so hard to put himself in a strong position heading into spring training after coming back from Tommy John surgery,” Yankees manager Aaron Boone said in a statement. “Without a guarantee of a major-league spot, he absolutely kicked in the door this spring and went on to have a phenomenal rookie season. Luis continued to mature and develop all year and was one of the pillars of our rotation.”

Unlike Gil, there was little doubt Skenes was a major league-caliber pitcher out of spring training, but the Pirates chose to not include him on their Opening Day roster. The rationale was simple: Skenes logged just 6⅔ innings as a pro in 2023 after he accumulated 122⅔ innings for LSU. So Skenes was sent to Triple-A for more seasoning and dominated on a limited workload. In seven starts, Skenes posted a 0.99 ERA with 45 strikeouts across 27⅓ innings.

Finally, on May 11, Skenes made his major league debut against the Chicago Cubs. He gave up three runs with seven strikeouts over four innings. He would give up three or more earned runs only twice more over his final 22 starts.

His first 11 outings were so dominant (1.90 ERA, 89 strikeouts to 13 walks in 66⅓ innings and seven no-hit innings in his final start of the first half against the Milwaukee Brewers) that he was named the starting pitcher for the NL All-Star team, setting the stage for an electric first inning in Arlington, Texas, against four of the sport’s best hitters. Skenes, the fifth rookie to ever start the exhibition, threw 16 pitches to Steven Kwan, Gunnar Henderson, Juan Soto and Aaron Judge. He walked Soto in an otherwise clean inning. He touched 100 mph and showcased his splinker — a splitter-sinker hybrid. The sequence, like every one of his starts, was must-watch television.

He pitched into the ninth inning for the first time as a pro in his first start after the All-Star Game, taking a hard-luck 2-1 loss against the St. Louis Cardinals after giving up a run in the ninth. But Pittsburgh, despite adding players at the trade deadline, fell out of the wild-card race down the stretch.

The Pirates, cautious to not overwork Skenes, had him pitch on extra rest — either five or six days — in all of his starts. But he logged at least six innings in 16 of his 23 starts. He threw at least 100 pitches in nine of them. He closed his season strong, giving up only two runs in five September starts. His final outing was brief but spectacular: Two perfect innings at Yankee Stadium, one of the sport’s grandest stages, opposite one of his most talented peers.

The goal next year? To pitch deeper into games more often from Opening Day.

“I think just being able to stay out there for seven or eight innings rather than five or six innings every outing, that’s going to be the biggest thing,” Skenes said. “We’re starting with the end in mind. We’re going to figure out how to do that.”

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