Last November, Audi announced a rebranding of its flagship e-tron model to the Q8 e-tron, establishing it as its top-of-the-line EV model and solidifying its place in the c-segment without any more confusion. I recently got the opportunity to explore the added performance of both the Audi Q8 e-tron quattro and Sportback through the Redwoods and along the coast of Sonoma County in California. Here are my thoughts.
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Isn’t the Q8 just the original Audi e-tron?
Yes. Yes, it is. But this isn’t a simple rebranding. The total changes compared to last year’s model are not exponential, but any upgrades that have been made by Audi are beneficial to consumers from a performance standpoint. We’ll dig into that in a minute, but first, let’s establish how we got here.
Audi’s e-tron lineup of all-electric vehicles began in 2018 with the flagship vehicle by the same name. We have since seen four additional models, including e-tron GT and Q4 e-tron, in addition to several interesting e-tron concepts.
I’ll be the first to admit that Audi’s e-tron model nomenclature still sometimes confuses me on paper, but these EVs are much easier to differentiate when you see them side by side. This past November, Audi added a bit of clarity to its lineup by rebranding the original e-tron SUV and Sportback as the Q8 e-tron.
The Audi team told us the reasoning behind the naming decision was to align with an existing model name that represents the brand’s utmost quality – and to segue that reputation into an all-electric era.
I’ve been following the progress of the 2024 model year Audi Q8 e-tron as we’ve learned US pricing and availability, but it wasn’t until last week that I finally got my chance to get behind the wheel.
Updates beyond (and beneath) the aesthetic
If you’ve been in last year’s e-tron or Sportback e-tron, you’d get inside these new models and wonder how much has changed. Truthfully, not that much… at least at first glance. What Audi has done here is deliver some serious innovation and optimization where it matters… underneath all that shiny stuff on top.
Audi has successfully improved its battery and motor design within both the Q8 e-tron SUV and Sportback. The engineers overseas utilized every inch of the EV’s battery modules by stacking each’s prismatic cells rather than winding them. The result is a battery pack that delivers nearly 20 kWh more gross capacity (114 kWh vs. 95 kWh on the 2023 version) – all in the same footprint.
Drivers of the 2024 Q8 e-tron models will be able to take advantage of 30% more range compared to previous models, eclipsing 300 miles on a single charge in the Q8 Sportback S-Line e-tron (w/ ultra package). Here’s a quick side-by-side comparison to truly grasp how much more efficiency Audi is delivering within the same footprint:
Audi e-tron Model
2023 e-tron quattro
2023 Sportback S-Line e-tron quattro
2024 e-tron quattro
2024 Sportback S-Line e-tron quattro
2024 Sportback S-Line e-tron quattro (ultra package)
Battery Size(gross)
95 kWh
95 kWh
114 kWh
114 kWh
114 kWh
Peak Power
402 hp
402 hp
402 hp
402 hp
402 hp
0-60 mph
5.5 sec (w/ boost)
5.5 sec (w/ boost)
5.4 sec
5.4 sec
5.3 sec
Top Speed
124 mph
124 mph
124 mph (est.)
124 mph (est.)
124 mph (est.)
Drag Coefficient
0.31 Cd
0.28 Cd
0.29 Cd
0.27 Cd
0.27 Cd
Curb Weight
5,765 lbs.
5,787 lbs.
5,798 lbs.
5,798 lbs.
5,798 lbs.
EPA Range
226 mi.
225 mi.
285 mi.
296 mi.
300 mi.
As you can see, despite adding more battery density, the new 2024 Q8 e-tron models weigh nearly the same as their predecessors while delivering range improvements. In speaking with Audi senior manager of product planning, Anthony Garbis, I learned that the automaker reduced the amount of Cobalt in its battery chemistry. Combined with some swapping of components for lighter materials, Audi delivered a more powerful EV without adding unnecessary weight.
The revamped battery chemistry also contributes to better charge curves (Audi says it will hold 100 kW at 80% before winding down) and will enable the new Q8 e-tron models to reach higher charging rates (170 kW vs. 150 kWh previously), thus reducing charge times to 31 minutes to replenish from 10-80%.
But enough about specs, let’s talk about my experience driving two variations of the new Q8 e-tron.
Changes to the interior and exterior, plus US pricing
As I reported last fall, the dawn of the new age of the Q8 e-tron includes some new badge styles that will set the tone for the luxury brand’s future as it continues to go all-electric.
The first thing you’ll notice in the images above is the new 2D rings logo on a redesigned single-frame front grill, featuring more efficient apertures that help deliver an air curtain around the EV. This increase in the air curtain significantly contributes to the lower drag coefficients detailed above.
I also snapped some images of Audi’s new laser-etched model badge on each e-tron’s B-pillar. Going forward, if you’re ever confused about what model you’re looking at, just check the door!
Inside, the Q8 e-tron should be very familiar to previous drivers. The layout and design are mostly the same, although Audi has integrated sustainable materials more. For example, the greyish inlet on the dash (see below) is made from recycled PET bottles. I love to see stuff like this, but it needs to happen more!
Real quick, let’s get pricing out of the way so you know what you’re dealing with as a consumer:
2024 Model Year Trim
Premium
Premium Plus
Prestige
Launch Edition (2024 MY only)
Q8 e-tron
$74,400
$78,800
$84,800
$87,550
Q8 Sportback e-tron
$77,800
$82,200
$88,200
$91,950
Wonderful. Onto the drive.
Driving the Audi Q8 e-tron quattro and Sportback e-tron
My drive consisted of a couple of hours along the coast in a white Audi Q8 Sportback S-Line e-tron (yes, it’s as tough to type as it is to say), followed by a lovely afternoon drive through the Redwoods in a Plasma Blue Metallic Q8 e-tron quattro (SUV).
I’ve driven plenty of electric SUVs and crossovers, some through the same coastal roads I experienced last week, but this ride felt different in a lot of ways. When I turned out of the hotel, I naturally gunned it to see what the Sportback e-tron could do. Admittedly, I was underwhelmed by its giddy-up, but I could immediately tell this was a pretty heavy vehicle.
Although its 0-60 time is nothing to drool over, the acceleration grew on me because of the overall ride. It is so smooth and quiet that you don’t even notice the acceleration. I found myself suddenly going 25-30 mph over the speed limit (nobody likes a snitch) without a single hair on my neck standing up – it just felt natural.
Since some of our route went through spotty cell areas, we used Audi’s UX navigation for the route rather than Apple CarPlay. That being said, I connected to CarPlay wirelessly and only had one issue – whenever I got a text, the center screen would switch over to CarPlay, and I’d have to tap back to Audi navigation. Kind of annoying, but I had my next two turns on display in front of me thanks to the HUD, which was top-notch, in my opinion.
The haptic touch took me a while to get used on the center screen as, at first, I wasn’t tapping hard enough for it to register. Once I got the hang of it, I still saw some delays between the tap, the haptic buzz, and the actual action taking place. This was by no means a deal breaker, but the software could be optimized a bit for responsiveness.
The menu was easy to navigate, though I found the tap-through process for certain menus a bit too labyrinthine, especially while driving. I would have liked the drive mode menu to be a bit easier to access as I shifted through the modes often to get the full experience. In the Q8 e-tron Sportback, I felt the most at home in Auto Mode.
When I tried to whip around my first curve along the coast, I had to steel myself for a second because I came in a little hot for such a heavy EV. The Q8 e-tron is a sturdy gal, let me tell you. “Comfort and luxury” is the name of the game here, not track records.
When I got into the Q8 e-tron SUV on the second half of the day, however, I was more comfortable with the feel of the Audi and spent most of my 2+ hour trip back to base in the sporty Dynamic Mode. I had an absolute blast in this vehicle, whisking through the beautiful forest and around mountainsides – when I wasn’t stuck behind a giant motorhome, that is.
It was here that I felt Audi’s quicker 14.6:1 steering ratio and stiffer front control arm bushings. Or maybe I’m just saying that to sound cool, and actually simply felt like a professional driver for an Audi e-tron commercial, accelerating through turns and passing lame gas pickups on any available straightaway.
Either way, I was in my element, and I was smiling.
Electrek’s take
While this is a new e-tron from a model name standpoint, it is by no means a complete revamp of last year’s version. That being said, there’s much to be excited about if you’re an Audi e-tron fan and you’re in the market for a new ride.
The most important change to note, in my opinion, is the upgrade to the battery technology. Delivering significantly higher energy density in the same dimensions, while offering consumers more range and better charging is a win for Audi’s assembly lines and its customers.
Although it’s only in the Q8 Sportback S-Line e-tron with the ultra package, being able to advertise 300 miles of range is huge, especially when you consider last year’s model topped out 75 miles shorter than that.
I’d argue that the average consumer will still want to see an even higher range to truly be enticed at the Q8 e-tron price point, but there are plenty of other perks to sway the purchase. All in all, anyone who is a fan of Audi, especially the original Q8 is going to enjoy these updated vehicles.
If you’re already driving an e-tron, you might not see enough different about it to upgrade just yet, unless you’re looking for more range. Either way, the Q8 e-trons are further evidence that Audi is serious about EVs as its future and is continuing to innovate in order to try and give its customers the very best.
I’m looking forward to seeing (and driving) what it comes up with next.
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Kia’s first electric sedan, the EV4, has officially hit the market. Kia opened EV4 orders at under $30,000 (41.92 million won) in South Korea ahead of its global rollout. It even has the longest driving range of any Hyundai Motor Group EV rated with over 330 miles (533 km).
Kia EV4 orders open in Korea for under $30,000
Since debuting as a concept in October 2023, Kia’s EV4 has become one of the most highly anticipated electric vehicles.
Last month, we got our first look at the production model during Kia’s 2024 EV Day (check out our recap of the event). Kia showcased four EV4 models, two sedans and two hatchbacks.
The EV4 is part of Kia’s new “EVs for all” strategy with prices ranging from around $30,000 to upwards of $80,000. After launching the EV5 and EV3, both electric SUVs, Kia aims to corner another segment with the EV4.
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Kia opened EV4 orders in Korea on Monday, starting at just 41.92 million won, or around USD $29,000. With incentives, Kia expects the actual purchase price to be around 34 million won, or roughly $23,500.
Kia EV4 sedan (Source: Hyundai Motor)
Powered by a 58.3 kWh battery, the standard “Air” model is rated with up to 237 miles (382 km) driving range. The long-range EV4, starting at 46.29 million won ($31,800), gets up to 331 miles (533 km) range from an 81.4 kWh battery, the most of among Hyundai Motor Group EVs.
As Kia’s most aerodynamic vehicle yet, the EV4 has ultra low drag coefficient of just 0.23, which unlocks maximum driving range.
Trim
Starting Price
Kia EV4 Standard Air
41.92 million won ($28,900)
Kia EV4 Standard Earth
46.69 million won ($32,000)
Kia EV4 Standard GT-Line
47.83 million won ($32,900)
Kia EV4 Long Range Air
46.29 million won ($31,800)
Kia EV4 Long Range Earth
51.04 million won ($35,000)
Kia EV4 Long Range GT-Line
51.04 million won ($35,900)
With a 350 kW charger, the long range EV4 can charge from 10% to 80% in around 31 minutes, while it will take about 29 with the standard model.
The EV4 is Kia’s fourth EV to arrive in Korea, following the EV6, EV9, and EV3. As its first EV in the segment, Kia claims it will “set a new standard for electric sedans.”
Kia EV4 sedan (Source: Hyundai Motor)
As you can see, the EV4 has a unique sports car-like silhouette with an added roof spoiler, which Kia says is “the new look of a sedan fit for the era of electrification.”
Inside, the electric sedan is loaded with the latest software and connectivity. Kia’s new ccNC infotainment system, with dual 12.3″ driver display and navigation screens, sits at the center of an otherwise minimalistic setup.
Kia EV4 sedan interior (Source: Hyundai Motor)
For the first time, it also includes a new “interior mode, “enabling you to easily change the seating and lights to maximize interior space.
Kia’s vice president and head of its domestic business, Won-Jeong Jeong, said the EV4 “will present a new direction in the domestic electric vehicle market, which has been formed around SUVs.”
Will it have the same “charm” in the US, Europe, and other markets? We will find out soon, with the EV4 rolling out globally this year. What do you think of Kia’s first electric sedan? Would you buy one for around $30,000?
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If you’ve ever thought, “Man, I wish my scooter was faster, smoother, and had more underglow,” then Segway has been reading your mind. The company just opened pre-orders for its new Ninebot Max G3, the latest in its Max series, and it’s packing more features than ever before.
The scooter brand has long pitched Segway’s Max series as a go-to for riders who want a solid commuter scooter that doesn’t break the bank while still offering decent range and comfort. But now, Segway seems to have cranked things up to eleven—or at least up to 28 mph (45 km/h), which is a nice jump in speed compared to the previous Max G2’s 22 mph (35 km/h) top speed.
That extra speed comes courtesy of a 2,000-watt motor, giving the G3 a 0-15 mph (25 km/h) sprint of just 2.4 seconds. Not bad for a standing scooter.
And with 50 miles (80 km) of range, Segway claims its efficiency optimization, which they call SegRange, squeezes even more miles out of each charge. If you manage to drain the 597 Wh battery in a day, you can top up in just 3.5 hours (or 2.5 hours with an optional faster charger).
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Hitting those higher speeds means stability is more important than ever, and Segway seems to be addressing that with dual hydraulic suspension on both ends, plus what they’re calling the SegRide stability enhancement system.
Fancy marketing names are one thing, but what really matters is how well this setup absorbs bumps and keeps the scooter planted at higher speeds. If it delivers, it could make for one of the smoothest rides in the category.
Traction and braking also get an upgrade, with Segway Dynamic Traction Control helping riders maintain grip and dual-piston disc brakes front and rear ensuring you can actually stop when needed. Segway has even thrown in an anti-lock braking system for a more controlled stop – something usually only seen on scooters and motorcycles. Bosch and BluBrake have both brought ABS to e-bikes, but it is quite rare in the standing electric scooter world.
Segway has been adding more tech to its scooters each year, and the Max G3 is no exception. The new 2.4-inch TFT smart display offers turn-by-turn navigation, real-time ride stats, and even notifications for incoming calls.
It also comes with AirLock autonomous unlocking, which means you can use your phone to lock and unlock it without fumbling with a key. If you’re worried about losing it, it’s Apple Find My compatible, so you can track it down when someone inevitably “borrows” it without asking.
Lighting is another area where Segway went all out. The Max G3 features a 360-degree lighting system, including an automatic headlight that’s three times brighter, underglow lighting, and turn signals that sync with that underglow lighting. Because what’s the point of having a fast, high-tech scooter if it doesn’t glow like a Fast and Furious car while you ride?
The Segway Ninebot Max G3 seems ready to take a stab at competing in the premium commuter scooter space, with performance upgrades that should make it a blast to ride while keeping it safe and comfortable. At $899.99 for the pre-order price before it jumps to $1,399.99, it could be a steal for anyone looking to upgrade their ride without venturing into ultra-premium pricing.
If you’re ready to jump on one, pre-orders are open through March 24 with promotional pricing. Deliveries are expected to begin around the end of March.
What do you think? Should we try to get our hands on one for a test ride when they roll out? Let us know in the comments section below.
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The legend of the ‘Tesla killer’ is not a myth anymore. It came true, and it’s not an electric vehicle from a legacy automaker or a new EV startup; it’s Elon Musk, Tesla’s CEO.
In the early days of Tesla, the media loved to use the term ‘Tesla killer’ every time a legacy automaker launched a new EV.
At the time, we scolded them for using it, as they would apply it to electric vehicles that didn’t match Tesla’s performance, production volumes, or profitability.
Sure enough, none of them came even close to negatively affecting Tesla, let alone “killing” the company.
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But things are changing now. Tesla is not growing at an insane pace like it was for a decade. In fact, it’s not growing at all anymore. Tesla’s global sales declined annually for the first time in 2024, and it is starting even worse in 2025.
Most Tesla fans, myself included, thought that while Tesla’s market shares would go down amid more EV competition, its sales would continue to grow as EV adoption takes over the industry. That’s exactly what happened for a few years, but the trend reversed in 2024, and it’s not because of EV adoption.
Global EV sales surged by 25% in 2024, while the sales of the biggest EV automaker, Tesla, declined by 1%.
There are many reasons to explain this situation, but there’s one main culprit: Elon Musk.
Musk has been completely delusional about Tesla achieving self-driving capability for years, which led him to neglect the rest of Tesla’s automotive business as he thought that by the end of every year for the last 6 years, Tesla would be able to flip a switch and make all its vehicles self-driving – automatically increasing their value and making them infinitely more competitive than other vehicles.
How did Musk neglect Tesla’s automotive business?
The clearest example is the fact that Tesla launched a single new vehicle in the last 5 years: the Cybertruck, which proved to be a total flop.
The Cybertruck launched in 2023 at a much higher price and significantly shorter range than what was promised when unveiled in 2019. With a reservation backlog at over 1 million units, Musk said that he could see Tesla eventually selling 500,000 units a year and Tesla planned for an initial production capacity of 250,000 units a year.
Now, a year and a half into production, Tesla is having issues selling the Cybertruck at 10% of its planned production capacity installed at Gigafactory Texas.
Musk also canceled Tesla’s plan to build a “~$25,000 electric car”, which would have greatly fueled demand and allowed Tesla to grow its delivery volumes. The CEO didn’t believe that the vehicle program would make sense if Tesla solved autonomy. He said in October 2024:
“I think having a regular $25,000 model is pointless. It would be silly. It would be completely at odds with what we believe.”
What Musk, and by extension Tesla, believes is that the automaker is on the verge of solving self-driving, but he has thought that to be the case every year for the last 6 years.
There’s no evidence that it is now on the verge of happening, or at least, not on the hardware that Tesla has delivered so far.
It’s clear that this crucial mistake about the timeline of self-driving has led Musk to make many mistakes about how to manage Tesla in the last few years.
For example, Tesla’s decision to remove turn signals and gear shift stalks from vehicles started with Model S and Model X in 2021. The CEO saw them as superfluous in a self-driving world, which he thought was imminent. Now, Model S and Model X sales have crashed.
Tesla brought the same design to the Model 3 with the refresh last year. Seeing the mistake years later, Tesla decided to keep the turn signal stalk with the Model Y refresh this year, and the stalk is rumored to make a comeback on the Model 3.
Perhaps the biggest mistake Musk has made about self-driving is promising that “all Tesla vehicles built since 2016 have the hardware capable of self-driving” to a level that would enable a robotaxi service, which in SAE self-driving terms would mean level 4-5.
He said that Tesla would “painfully” replace the computers in all vehicles of owners who purchased the “Full Self-Driving” (FSD) software package. However, we noted that Tesla is likely in more trouble than that since it promised that “all Tesla vehicles built since 2016 have the hardware capable of self-driving” – not just those whose owners bought the FDS package. Considering this greatly affects the resale value of those vehicles, you can make the argument that there are millions of Tesla owners out there who are owed a retrofit or compensation for Tesla’s mistake.
This is a current liability at Tesla worth billions of dollars, and there are already examples of lawsuits about this issue.
These are all management mistakes that ultimately fall on Elon Musk, Tesla’s CEO.
Then, there are plenty of mistakes that Musk has made outside of Tesla that is affecting the company. The hard turn to the right, buying Twitter, boosting misinformation and Russian propaganda on the platform, financially backing Donald Trump, joining the administration and slashing critical government program indiscriminately.
Regardless of if you agree or not with Musk’s politics, these are things that you simply shouldn’t do as the face of a major consumer product company as you will undoubtedly anger a large part of your consumer base.
That’s exactly what’s happening.
There are now weekly demonstrations at Tesla stores around the world, and sales are crashing in many markets, especially in those where Musk got politically involved, like Germany, where Tesla sales are down 70% so far this year.
Musk is virtually erasing two decades of hard work to build Tesla’s brand into the world’s leading when it comes to electrification and renewable energy.
Now, for a large part of the population, Tesla is just seen as the piggybank of an out-of-touch oligarch.
Tesla is not dead yet, but if Musk continues to be the face of the company, it looks like it’s certainly going in that direction as this brand issue and declining demand is not going away.
Some of his fans cling to the idea that the automaker is about to solve self-driving, but this belief is largely based on Musk’s claims, which have been consistently wrong.
Now, it’s not to say that Tesla hasn’t made great progress on that front, but if we are to listen to the company’s own goal to be safer than humans, it means achieving “miles between critical disengagement” equivalent to human miles between collisions, which is 700,000 miles, according to NHTSA.
While Tesla might not die under Musk, I sincerely think that, at best, it will be a fraction of what it was at its peak, which means no bigger than it is now or in 2023.
Musk’s brand is toxic and doesn’t look to be improving significantly now that he has attached himself to identity politics, culture wars, and Trump.
Looking at Tesla fans and shareholders who still support him, their main hope appears to be self-driving and robots. On the self-driving front, I think it’s delusional to believe that Tesla will solve self-driving on its current hardware.
I think it has made some great progress, which may result in Tesla achieving valuable levels of self-driving on next-generation hardware in the next few years. However, others are on the same path, and you have to balance Tesla’s effort against the giant liability it created for itself by promising it on millions of other vehicles.
As for the robots, I’m actually somewhat bullish on humanoid robots, and I do believe that Tesla has some competitive advantage on that front. However, it’s foolish to think they will simply leapfrog the competition, which is significant in the sector.
Tesla’s core business remains selling cars and batteries. There’s no doubt that the business of selling cars is not going well for Tesla right now, and under Musk, there’s no clear path to improvement. The energy business is booming, but margins are falling, and competition is increasing—especially from companies like CATL and BYD, which supply the cells that Tesla uses for its stationary batteries.
On the car side, Tesla is indeed planning to launch cheaper cars this year, but that plan was a pivot after Musk canceled the “$25,000 Tesla.” These new vehicles are expected to be built on the same platform as Model 3 and Model Y, so they will be closer to these models and cannibalize them.
I’d be surprised if they are enough to avoid Telsa from having its annual deliveries decline again this year.
I have been saying this for a while, but it’s time for Elon to go.
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