Reddit is in crisis as prominent moderators loudly protest the company’s treatment of developers
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At midnight on Tuesday, the moderators of the Reddit community r/Gaming decided to go dark.
Dac Croach, who goes by username Dacvak, and the subreddit’s other leaders hit the private button, initiating a 48-hour shutdown for the group’s more than 37 million members, along with anyone else who tried to access the community.
They were joining a large-scale protest against Reddit, which was about to implement a business change that would dramatically increase the price for third-party developers to use the company’s application programming interface, or API. In the preceding days, the r/Gaming moderators had run a poll indicating that users would support a shutdown. They discussed the results on Slack, and then went offline.
The widespread protests of one of the internet’s most-trafficked sites started early this week and quickly expanded to more than 8,000 subreddits, including the wildly popular r/Funny, with over 40 million members, along with r/Music and r/Science, each boasting over 30 million users.
Croach and his peers weren’t only standing in solidarity with Reddit’s outside developers. They were also worried that the tools they use on a daily basis to run their groups may no longer be available if the creators of those services decide they can’t afford Reddit’s new pricing structure. Reddit’s third-party apps are popular with moderators, who use them to organize their subreddits, block spam accounts, flag unsafe posts, find patterns of harassment and abuse and communicate with their members on the go.
Other apps widely used by Reddit members help with browsing the site and with assisting disabled users, who can find services for improved accessibility.
Croach told CNBC that, unlike Facebook, Twitter and Alphabet’s YouTube, Reddit counts on independent developers, rather than employees, to provide essential services that make the platform operable for moderators and users.
“Reddit not only has all of its content generated by users, but all of its moderation is done by volunteers,” Croach said. “We’re talking hundreds of thousands of volunteers putting in hours a day to keep the site safe, entertaining and enjoyable for community members. And it’s tough to see that those people, when their voices are loud like this, are being ostensibly ignored.”
That sentiment is shared across much of the Reddit universe, based on CNBC’s interviews with nearly a dozen moderators, some of whom oversee the biggest communities on the site.
The controversy highlights the increasingly fraught relationship between Reddit’s leadership team, which has been marching towards an IPO, and its many outside supporters, who have helped the company maintain over 100,000 active communities that attract over 500 million monthly global visitors.

If unresolved, the impact of a prolonged blackout could have ripple effects across the internet.
Reddit is the sixth-most-visited website in the U.S., according to data from analytics firm Semrush – behind Google, Google-owned YouTube, and Facebook, but ahead of Amazon, Twitter and Yahoo. Its more than 100,000 active subreddits, on topics from gardening to comic books, provide mounds of content catalogued by Google and other search engines.
Reddit previously said the coming price increase for access to its API was necessary because so much of its data is being used to train artificial intelligence models being developed by tech giants like Microsoft and Google.
In addition to giving it compensation for using its trove of data, Reddit said the updated pricing model is “to ensure developers have the tools and information they need to continue to use Reddit safely, protect our users’ privacy and security, and adhere to local regulations.” The company added in a later post that it “needs to be a self-sustaining business and to do that, we can no longer subsidize commercial entities that require large-scale data use from our API.”
Christian Selig, who runs a popular third-party browsing app called Apollo, found out about the pricing change on May 31, when a Reddit representative called him.
On the call, Selig figured out that he would owe Reddit about $20 million a year. Selig wrote in a post that Reddit is asking developers to pay $12,000 for every 50 million requests. He had 30 days to prepare for the changes or shut down altogether. He determined that he couldn’t afford to keep Apollo alive.
Selig announced he would shut down his app on June 30, the day before the changes were set to take effect. He emailed a Reddit representative and CEO Steve Huffman, outlining “small concessions that could be made that I think could make Apollo survive this, specifically around the timelines,” Selig told CNBC.
A Reddit spokesperson pointed CNBC to a recent blog post outlining the company’s policies around its API and referenced Huffman’s comments during a recent Reddit Ask Me Anything post.
“We respect when you and your communities take action to highlight the things you need, including, at times, going private,” Huffman said. “We are all responsible for ensuring Reddit provides an open accessible place for people to find community and belonging.”
Steve Huffman, CEO of Reddit, delivers remarks on ‘Redesigning Reddit’ during the Web Summit in Lisbon, Portugal, Nov. 8, 2017.
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With the Reddit moderator community in an uproar, Huffman reportedly sent a memo to employees on Monday, telling them that, “like all blowups on Reddit, this one will pass.” He predicted that most subreddits would be back online by Wednesday.
The blackout continued through the week. Huffman told NBC News on Thursday that he wants the protests to end soon, but downplayed the significance of their impact on the company, saying that roughly 80% of Reddit’s top 5,000 communities are back open.
Huffman also said he’s looking to change Reddit’s moderator policy at an unspecified time so that users would be able to more easily vote out moderators if they disagreed with their decisions. A Reddit spokesperson said that Huffman was only outlining a hypothetical moderator proposal.
On Friday, the company posted a message in r/ModCodeofConduct, a community of Reddit moderators, suggesting that if subreddits did not agree to lift the blackout, the company would work to find new moderators.
“We are also aware that some members of your mid team have expressed that they want to close your community indefinitely,” the post said, adding, “If there are mods here who are willing to work towards reopening this community, we are willing to work with you to process a Top Mod Removal request or reorder the mod team to achieve this goal if mods higher up the list are hindering reopening.”
While the initial protest was planned for just 48 hours, on Tuesday thousands of subreddits decided to extend their blackouts indefinitely.
“No one enjoys this,” Croach said. “No one wants to black out. No one revels in this. No one is happy about this. We’re doing this because… we love everything about Reddit, and we genuinely feel like not only are these decisions potentially detrimental for the future of the site, but they’re also just absolutely unfair to a lot of the people – including the third party developers – who volunteered their time for the site over the years… More than anything, we want a positive, peaceful outcome as quickly as possible, so things can just return to normal.”
The ripple effects
Among the major U.S. internet companies, Reddit is unusual in that it’s still private. The 18-year-old company first disclosed plans for an IPO through a confidential filing in late 2021. That was right when the extended bull market was coming to an end and just before Wall Street lost all interest in public listings from cash-burning tech companies. It’s not clear at the moment when an IPO could happen.
Huffman has “got a lot of decisions to make as he’s trying to move the company public,” said David DeWald, a community manager for the telecommunications company Ciena and a moderator of the r/Arcade1up subreddit who goes by the username HistorianCM. He said Reddit management likely made the decision to raise the price of its API out of financial necessity.
As a private company, Reddit doesn’t have to disclose its financials or provide revenue and profit projections. Reddit is an ad-supported business and, in the limited information it’s provided to the public, the company said in mid-2021 that quarterly ad revenue hit $100 million for the first time. On Thursday, Huffman told NBC News that the still-unprofitable company’s annual revenue is less than $1 billion.
For many news publishers, corporate websites and image-sharing services, Reddit is a major driver of traffic because its users share so much content with one another.
Shane McCarthy, chief marketing officer of enterprise software vendor Sandboxx, said many CMOs are surprised with how much referral traffic their website can get when one of their products is discussed in a particular Reddit community. Those sites could see a sudden decrease in traffic because of the blackout, McCarthy said, ultimately hurting their search rankings and driving up marketing costs. There are rumblings that it’s already happening.
The bigger problem for Reddit, according to McCarthy, is that the latest developments may deter new users from signing up, making it a less attractive place for advertisers to run campaigns. And if users delete content or archives in an act of protest, as one Reddit moderator told CNBC some are considering, “there’s nothing there anymore,” he said.
Croach and other subreddit moderators said tensions have long existed between Reddit management and the company’s vast network of volunteer contributors. The API charges represent the final straw, as they know the new pricing model doesn’t work for some app developers who built tools that they use every day.
“You have a lot of people, both professionals and general community members, who are running the numbers on this,” Croach said. “A lot of people are kind of getting the same result, which is that the API pricing structure seems to be intentionally unsustainable for these smaller third-party developers.”
A Reddit user who goes by Meepster23 echoed Croach’s views. Meepster23 is a senior moderator of the r/Videos subreddit, which has more than 20 million members. He said that despite Reddit’s claim that the changes are about recouping costs, “their pricing seems to be based on revenue, not on cost at all.”
Following the protests in real time
With their communities shut down, many moderators have turned to a subreddit and Discord group called ModCoord to express their frustrations and figure out next steps. ModCoord is made up of moderators of leading subreddits and has served as a way to help organize the community and disseminate information.
Although ModCoord has been used for past Reddit protests, it’s “not something that the moderators pull out lightly,” said a Reddit user named Omar, who helps run the ModCoord subreddit and Discord community, in an interview. Like several moderators who spoke to CNBC, the person asked not to be credited with their full name for fear of online harassment. The community, “isn’t under some delusion that we want the API to be free,” Omar said, adding that the priority is to make access affordable.
Reddark, a website that shows in real time which subreddits have gone private or read only, grew out of a community effort to chart the protests’ impact, and now attracts thousands of people visiting the site to watch the actions unfold, the creators told CNBC.
Reddark’s director, known online as Tanza, called Reddit’s API changes “ridiculous,” and said many disabled users rely on third-party apps for enhanced accessibility features.
A moderator of r/Unexpected, a subreddit with more than 10 million members, said its community was “dependent on third-party apps,” adding that moderating communities from mobile devices could be nearly impossible after the changes.
Jacqueline Sheeran, known as “MCHammerCurls,” is the head moderator of r/Fitness, which has more than 10 million members. She said volunteer moderators are reliant on third-party apps for all sorts of safety features so they can flag key words, phrases and expressions.
“There are legitimate health concerns, eating disorders, injuries,” she said. “[It’s about] trying to make sure that people are staying safe and healthy in their activities while also not being inundated by bots or spam accounts.”

Although Reddit has promised that its API pricing change wouldn’t affect third-party non-commercial accessibility apps or certain moderation tools, many Reddit moderators said that they are hesitant to trust the company. The moderators claim that Reddit has made promises in the past, such as providing them with high-quality internal moderation tools. However, they say Reddit’s home-built software wasn’t as good as outside services.
Leading up to the protests, Dr. Sarah Gilbert, a moderator for the r/AskHistorian subreddit, said she was “kind of hopeful” that Reddit leadership would distinguish the company as one that takes into account the concerns of volunteers in making business decisions.
“That would be such a powerful model for Reddit to take on and show,” said Gilbert, who studies online communities as part of her work as a postdoctoral associate at Cornell University and research manager at the school’s Citizens and Technology Lab. “It would have been a good thing for the social internet that we have for people to feel listened to and comfortable, but I don’t know if the turning point is going to come too late or what’s going to happen.”
Gilbert added that Huffman’s recent comments about instituting possible policy changes that would let Reddit users more easily remove moderators are “highly concerning for a number of reasons.”
She said that while on the surface, Huffman’s proposed policy changes “seem like it would work well,” it’s often that “voting alone can have some disastrous effects.”
“So, there’s a real risk that mods are going to get voted out, simply for doing the work of moderation,” she said. “In the short term, this means mods may be less likely to do important moderation work that protects their communities but may be unpopular, which will have a downstream effect of more disinformation, more hate, more spam, more harassment and more abuse on Reddit.”
Reddit user RamsesThePigeon, who moderates multiple subreddits, including r/funny and r/nottheonion, said the company appears to be “standing firm” in its belief that the price hike was the right call.
But the conflict isn’t helpful for either side, and everyone’s time would be better spent “working toward the solution rather than against each other,” he said.
“I feel like a lot of people don’t take the time to consider the other side, whether that’s Reddit not considering its moderators and contributors, or the moderators and contributors not considering Reddit,” RamsesThePigeon said.
Regardless of the outcome, several moderators said that there’s been a loss of trust that will be hard to repair.
“I’m not certain that there would have been a completely perfect way to handle any of this,” RamsesThePigeon said. “No matter what, there is going to be animosity on both sides, and that’s just humanity for you.”
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Reddit challenges Australia’s under-16 social media ban in High Court filing, says law curbs political speech
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Reddit, the popular community-focused forum, has launched a legal challenge against Australia’s social media ban for teens under 16, arguing that the newly enacted law is ineffective and goes too far by restricting political discussion online.
In its application to Australia’s High Court, the social news and aggregation platform said the law is “invalid on the basis of the implied freedom of political communication”, saying that it burdens political communication.
Canberra’s ban came into effect on Wednesday and targeted 10 major services, including Alphabet‘s YouTube, Meta’s Instagram, ByteDance’s TikTok, Reddit, Snapchat and Elon Musk’s X. All targeted platforms had agreed to comply with the policy to varying degrees.
Australia’s Prime Minister’s office, Attorney-General’s Department and other social media platforms did not immediately reply to requests for comment.
Under the law, the targeted platforms will have to take “reasonable steps” to prevent underage access, using age–verification methods such as inference from online activity, facial estimation via selfies, uploaded IDs, or linked bank details.
Reddit’s application to the courts seeks to either declare the law invalid or exclude the platform from the provisions of the law.
In a statement to CNBC, Reddit said that while it agrees with the importance of protecting persons under 16, the law could isolate teens “from the ability to engage in age-appropriate community experiences (including political discussions).”
It also said in its application that the law “burdens political communication,” saying “the political views of children inform the electoral choices of many current electors, including their parents and their teachers, as well as others interested in the views of those soon to reach the age of maturity.”
The platform also argued that it should not be subject to the law, saying it operates more as a forum for adults facilitating “knowledge sharing” between users than as a traditional social network, saying that it does not import contact lists or address books.
“Reddit is significantly different from other sites that allow for users to become “friends” with one another, or to post photos about themselves, or to organise events,” the platform said in its application.
Reddit further said in its court filing that most content on its platform is accessible without an account, and pointed out a person under the age of 16 “can be more easily protected from online harm if they have an account, being the very thing that is prohibited.”
“That is because the account can be subject to settings that limit their access to particular kinds of content that may be harmful to them,” it adds.
Despite its objections, Reddit said that the challenge was not an attempt to avoid complying with the law, nor was it an effort to retain young users for business reasons.
“There are more targeted, privacy-preserving measures to protect young people online without resorting to blanket bans,” the platform said.
— CNBC’s Dylan Butts contributed to this story.
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Altman and Musk launched OpenAI as a nonprofit 10 years ago. Now they’re rivals in a trillion-dollar market
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On Dec. 11, 2015, OpenAI launched as a nonprofit research lab after Elon Musk and a group of prominent techies, including Peter Thiel and Reid Hoffman, pledged $1 billion to develop artificial intelligence for the benefit of humanity. The idea was for the project to be be free of commercial pressures and the pursuit of money.
A decade later, that founding mission is all but forgotten.
Musk, now the world’s richest person, is long gone, having created rival startup xAI. And he’s been engaged in a heated legal and public relations fight with OpenAI CEO and co-founder Sam Altman.
Far from the nonprofit realm, OpenAI has emerged as one of the fastest-growing commercial entities on the planet, zooming to a $500 billion private market valuation, with almost all of that value accruing since the company’s launch of ChatGPT three years ago. More than 800 million people now use the chatbot every week.
Musk’s xAI, meanwhile, is expected to close a $15 billion round at a $230 billion pre-money valuation this month, sources familiar with the matter told CNBC’s David Faber in late November.
OpenAI and xAI are two of the main companies, along with Google, Anthropic and Meta, pouring money into AI models, as the market rapidly evolves from text-based chatbots to AI-generated videos and more advanced compute-intensive forms of content, as well as into agentic AI, with large enterprises customizing tools to enhance productivity.
For OpenAI, the price tag is almost incomprehensible: $1.4 trillion and growing. That’s primarily for the mammoth data centers and high-powered chips required to meet what the company sees as insatiable demand for its technology. For now, OpenAI is a cash-burning machine going up against tech’s megacaps and their chip suppliers, drawing comparisons to earlier waves of high-growth tech firms that spent heavily for years to challenge behemoth incumbents, but to mixed results.
“OpenAI has a very big role in the in the history of the development of artificial intelligence, and will forever have that role,” said Gil Luria, an equity analyst at D.A. Davidson, in an interview. “Now, will that role be Netscape, or will it be Google? We’ve yet to find out.”
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It’s a position that would’ve been hard to imagine in 2016, when Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang hauled a black DGX-1 supercomputer up to OpenAI’s offices in San Francisco’s Mission District. The $300,000 machine had cost Nvidia “a few billion dollars” to develop, and there were no other buyers, Huang recalled recently on Joe Rogan’s podcast.
Musk, at OpenAI, was the only one who wanted it.
When Musk told him it was for “a nonprofit company,” Huang said all the blood drained from his face at the thought of parking such a costly box inside an organization that wasn’t meant to make money.
Behind the scenes, though, the nonprofit ideal was already under intense strain, and Musk didn’t like what he saw.
“Guys, I’ve had enough. This is the final straw,” Musk wrote in an email to his co-founders in 2017. He warned that he would “no longer fund OpenAI” if it turned into a tech startup instead of a nonprofit. Altman wrote back the next morning: “i remain enthusiastic about the non-profit structure!”
Altman vs. Musk
In February of the following year, Musk left the OpenAI board, and said at the time the move was to avoid a potential conflict of interest as his car company, Tesla, dove deeper into AI.
The story was more complicated.
Musk sued OpenAI and Altman in early 2024, alleging they abandoned the company’s founding mission to develop AI “for the benefit of humanity broadly,” and he’s regularly criticized OpenAI’s close ties to Microsoft, its principal backer. He also went to court to try and keep OpenAI from converting into a for-profit entity and, earlier this year, went so far as to try and acquire the AI lab for $97.4 billion.
In October, OpenAI announced it had completed a recapitalization, cementing its structure as a nonprofit with a controlling stake in its for-profit business, which is now a public benefit corporation called OpenAI Group PBC.

Musk isn’t the only early OpenAI team member who’s turned into a bitter rival. Siblings Dario and Daniela Amodei left OpenAI in late 2020 to form Anthropic, which said last month that Microsoft and Nvidia would invest in the company. The valuation from the funding round could reach as high as $350 billion.
Anthropic’s Claude family of large language models is one of the biggest competitors to OpenAI’s GPT models.
Altman is wagering that he can win the race by outspending the competition. While his company has sketched out plans for a trillion-dollar-plus AI infrastructure outlay, Anthropic has made roughly $100 billion in recent compute commitments, spaced out at various intervals over the next few years.
It all amounts to a giant bet that demand for AI services will continue apace.
“We’ve got all the various AI vendors making these huge capital investments,” said David Menninger, executive director of software research at ISG. “There’s a question as to how long those capital investments continue and whether or not they all pan out.”
Luria says Anthropic and others are making reasonable commitments based on their current growth trajectory and the funding they’ve already secured. But he said OpenAI’s approach has been based on a “fantastical set of commitments” with a “faint belief that those numbers are even possible.”
‘Pretty extreme’
Altman told CNBC in an interview on Thursday that OpenAI is already seeing enough demand to justify its spending plans, which “makes us confident that we will be able to significantly ramp revenue.”
“It’s obviously unusual to be growing this fast at this kind of scale, but it is what we see in our current data,” Altman said, adding that “the demand in the market is pretty extreme.”
Altman said last month that he expects annualized revenue to hit $20 billion by the end of this year and to reach hundreds of billions by 2030. Its historic pace of growth has been a big boon for major tech companies.
Oracle signed a roughly $500 billion deal to sell infrastructure services to OpenAI over five years. Chipmakers Advanced Micro Devices and Broadcom have woven OpenAI-linked demand into multi-year forecasts.
But Oracle’s shares plunged 11% on Thursday after the software vendor reported weaker-than-expected revenue, a miss that dragged down Nvidia, CoreWeave and other AI-related stocks. Despite a surge in long-term contract commitments from companies like OpenAI, Meta, and Nvidia, investors are growing concerned about Oracle’s debt load that’s fueling its buildout.

Still, venture capitalist Matt Murphy of Menlo Ventures, said that in his 25 years in the venture business, “this is the mother of all waves.”
Murphy, an early investor in Anthropic, said the combination of AI models, custom chips and hyperscale data centers adds up to the potential for trillion-dollar outcomes. That explains the eye-popping level of capital expenditures and the astronomical valuations, he said.
Altman recently declared a “code red” inside his company, and shuffled resources to focus on making ChatGPT faster, more reliable and more personal, while delaying work on ads, health and shopping agents and a personal assistant called Pulse. His declaration came after Google released its Gemini 3 model last month, further accelerating the search giant’s ascent in the market.
On Thursday, OpenAI unveiled ChatGPT-5.2, a faster, more capable reasoning model that the company says is its best system yet for everyday professional use. It also struck a three-year, $1 billion content and equity deal with Disney around the Sora AI video generator.
Altman downplayed the threat from Google, telling CNBC that Gemini had less of an impact on the company’s metrics than OpenAI initially feared.
“I believe that when a competitive threat happens, you want to focus on it, deal with it quickly,” Altman said.
He said he expects the company to exit code red by January.
— CNBC’s Kif Leswing contributed to this report.

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Broadcom stock reverses lower on a misinterpretation of what the CEO said on the earnings call
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Broadcom on Thursday evening reported another strong quarter and better-than-expected guidance for the current quarter. Nonetheless, the Club stock gave up its initial pop and traded sharply lower as the Q & A session of the post-earnings conference call kicked off. Investors were apparently not satisfied with CEO Hock Tan’s answer to an important question. Revenue in the fiscal 2025 fourth quarter, which ended Nov. 2, increased 28% year over year to $18.02 billion, ahead of the $17.49 billion consensus forecast, according to the consensus of analyst estimates compiled by LSEG. Adjusted earnings per share increased 37% to $1.95, also outpacing expectations of $1.86, LSEG data showed. Adjusted EBITDA , or earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization, grew 34% to $12.22 billion in the quarter, beating the FactSet consensus of $11.61 billion. Why we own it Broadcom is a high-quality semiconductor and software company run by the incredible CEO Hock Tan. The company is a big AI beneficiary through its networking and custom chip businesses. Competitors : Marvell Technology, Advanced Micro Devices , and Nvidia Last buy : Nov. 21, 2024 Initiation date : Aug. 24, 2023 Bottom line The reported results were solid as revenue outpaced expectations, thanks to strength in both of Broadcom’s operating segments: Semiconductor Solutions and Infrastructure Software. Profit margin performance was also strong as the company’s overall adjusted operating income margin expanded nearly 350 basis points, or 3.5 percentage points, leading to strong year-over-year earnings growth, beyond what the Street was looking for. Alongside the strong results, revenue and EBITDA margin guidance for the current fiscal 2026 first quarter were both ahead of expectations as well. Before addressing the part of the call that knocked the stock, we want to stress that, overall, Tan’s remarks got us really excited for 2026. For starters, the CEO confirmed the rumors that the fourth customer we heard about last call, which placed a $10 billion order, is indeed Anthropic, and that they’re buying the Ironwood XPUs, the generation seven TPUs on which Google’s Gemini 3 was trained and run. XPU is the term Broadcom uses to describe custom chips, which are also referred to as application-specific integrated circuits (ASICs). Tan also noted that these TPUs are being used by others, including Club name Apple , Cohere, and SSI, adding that the “scale at which we see this happening could be significant.” TPUs, or tensor processing units, are what Google calls the chips that it co-designed with Broadcom. In a “what have you done for me lately” business, Tan also noted that in the reported quarter, privately held Anthropic doubled down, placing an additional $11 billion order for delivery in late 2026. If that’s not enough, Tan said Broadcom secured a $1 billion initial order from a fifth, yet-to-be-named XPU customer, also for delivery in 2026. It was noted on the call, however, that in the back half of fiscal 2026, there could be some margin pressure. CFO Kirsten Spears said, “[In] the second half of the year, when we do start shipping more systems, the situation is straightforward. We’ll be passing through more components that are not ours. … Those costs will be passing through more costs within the rack. And so those gross margins will be lower.” So, that brings us back to the question: Why did a stock, which initially jumped over 3% on the release, proceed to give up the gains and reverse lower by 4.5% in the after-hours session? It’s about concerns regarding the long-term partnership between Broadcom and Google-parent Alphabet , and maybe that back-half margin talk. The Q & A part of the call kicked off with a question about XPU customers possibly looking to bring more development in-house and what that might mean for Broadcom in the coming years. Tan responded by discussing the benefits of custom semiconductors, noting that what can be built into purpose-designed hardware would only be possible to code via software with other solutions. He then went on to opine, saying, “Now, will that mean that over time they all want to go do it themselves? Not necessarily. And in fact, because the technology in silicon keeps updating, keeps evolving. And if you are an LLM [large language model] player, where do you put your resources in order to compete in this space, especially when you have to compete at the end of the day against merchant GPUs, which are not slowing down in the rate of evolution. So, I see this concept of customer tooling as an overblown hypothesis, which frankly, I don’t think will happen.” Customer tooling refers to the idea that companies look to develop their own, in-house designed, custom hardware accelerators for AI training and inference without the help of Broadcom. Tan’s reference to GPUs, or graphics processing units, was meant to highlight the competitive landscape that customer chips face from these gold-standard all-purpose chips, dominated by Club name Nvidia . Sellers of stock may have taken Tan’s remarks to be a bit dismissive and not quite the concrete “it’s not happening” answer they had been hoping for. That said, we appreciate Tan because he provides a no-nonsense view of things, regardless of what he thinks Wall Street wants to hear. At the moment, this hypothesis is indeed nothing more than speculation, and Tan was, in our opinion, clear in his view that he doesn’t see this scenario playing out. In the end, Thursday’s after-hours selloff was more about investor concern with a potential bearish scenario in the future, in which key customers move development in-house, rather than anything clear-cut that would impact Broadcom’s business outlook. It’s an understandable concern, after all, we have seen those with the financial ability to do so, look to move more chip development in-house. However, it is nothing more than speculation at the moment and, in our opinion, not nearly enough to get out of our position, given the clearly strong demand that Broadcom is now seeing and expects to see increase as we work our way through 2026. If the margin commentary was why the stock was down, it’s an opportunity because at the end of the day more business, even at a lower gross margin, means more earnings growth. And that is what we value the stock based on. AVGO YTD mountain Broadcom YTD That said, even just the possibility of hiccups down the road was enough to drive a move lower in the stock when investors are sitting on huge gains, especially in the middle of December, and looking to book profits before year-end. Broadcom shares, as of Thursday’s close, were up 75% year-to-date, and trading right around all-time highs coming into the print. This decline doesn’t strike us as anything more than that. Out of respect for this year’s rally, we’re reiterating our 2 rating hold on Broadcom stock and will look for a better opportunity to upgrade it to our buy-equivalent 1 rating should this selloff persist in the coming sessions. We are, however, raising our price target to $425 per share from $415, as Wednesday’s record-high close of nearly $413 was bumping up on our previous PT. Segment commentary Broadcom’s fiscal fourth-quarter revenue in Semiconductor Solutions, the much larger of the two operating segments, increased 34.5% year over year to $11.07 billion, exceeding expectations of $10.77 billion, according to FactSet. Within that result, AI semiconductor revenue surged 74% year over year to $6.5 billion, ahead of the $6.22 billion the team guided to months ago after its fiscal Q3 release. AI networking was again strong, with Tan noting that customers continue to build out data center infrastructure before they deploy AI accelerators. As a result, the backlog for AI switches now exceeds $10 billion, with the CEO adding that the Tomahawk 6, which he considers unmatched in its capabilities, is seeing bookings come in at record rates. Adding in the other components necessary to build out an AI data center, including XPUs, and Broadcom is looking at an AI-related backlog of more than $73 billion — about $53 billion of which is XPUs. Tan expects the team to convert that into realized revenue over the next 18 months, with $8.2 billion expected to be realized in the current fiscal 2026 first quarter. Regarding the legacy semiconductor sub-unit, fiscal Q4 revenue of $4.6 billion represented a 2% year-over-year increase and 16% sequential increase, “based on favorable wireless seasonality,” Tan said. That seasonality he’s referring to is the launch of the iPhone 17, which has been met with solid demand. Tan added that broadband revenue continues to recover, wireless was flat versus the year-ago period, and enterprise remains under pressure as “spending continued to show limited signs of recovery.” In Broadcom’s other operating segment, Infrastructure Software , revenue grew about 19% year over year to $6.9 billion, ahead of the $6.72 billion consensus estimate, according to FactSet. On the call, Tan said, “Bookings continued to be strong as total contract value booked in Q4 exceeded $10.4 billion, versus $8.2 billion a year ago.” As a result, the software infrastructure backlog ended the quarter at $73 billion, a major increase from the year-ago $49 billion. Guidance For its fiscal 2026 first quarter, which will end on Feb. 1, Broadcom forecasted total revenue to be about $19.1 billion. That target is ahead of the $18.27 billion LSEG consensus. Importantly, AI revenue is expected to keep growing in the coming quarter, with Tan stating in the release, “We see the momentum continuing in Q1 and expect AI semiconductor revenue to double year-over-year to $8.2 billion, driven by custom AI accelerators and Ethernet AI switches.” Add in the legacy semiconductor business forecast of approximately $4.1 billion, and we get a Semiconductor Solutions segment guide of about $12.3 billion, well ahead of the $11.53 billion consensus forecast, according to FactSet. The $6.8 billion Infrastructure Software revenue guide for fiscal Q1, however, came in short of the $7.136 billion estimates from FactSet. The company expects fiscal Q1 adjusted EBITDA to be approximately 67% of projected revenue, or $12.78 billion, ahead of the 66% profit margin and $12.06 billion consensus estimate, according to FactSet. (Jim Cramer’s Charitable Trust is long AVGO, AAPL, NVDA. See here for a full list of the stocks.) As a subscriber to the CNBC Investing Club with Jim Cramer, you will receive a trade alert before Jim makes a trade. Jim waits 45 minutes after sending a trade alert before buying or selling a stock in his charitable trust’s portfolio. If Jim has talked about a stock on CNBC TV, he waits 72 hours after issuing the trade alert before executing the trade. THE ABOVE INVESTING CLUB INFORMATION IS SUBJECT TO OUR TERMS AND CONDITIONS AND PRIVACY POLICY , TOGETHER WITH OUR DISCLAIMER . 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