Lucy Letby: Retired nursing chief says she didn’t have enough information to remove baby killer from unit
A former nursing chief who was accused of refusing to remove Lucy Letby from a neonatal unit despite staff concerns has said she was unable to because she “needed more information”.
Karen Rees had been the head of nursing at the Countess of Chester Hospital’s urgent care division before retiring in March 2018.
Her role included overseeing the neonatal unit where Letby murdered seven babies and attempted to murder six others between June 2015 and June 2016.
During Letby’s trial at Manchester Crown Court, the jury were told how the neonatal nurse tried to kill a baby by injecting him with air during a day shift on Saturday 25 June 2016.
Senior paediatrician Dr Stephen Brearey told the court that the day before that incident he told Ms Rees that he and his colleagues were “not happy” with Letby because of the number of baby deaths and collapses during her shifts.
In a statement given to Sky News Ms Rees has now said she wasn’t given enough information to justify removing Letby from her duties.
The former nursing chief says Karen Townsend, the director of urgent care at the hospital, and Ravi Jayaram, a consultant who was the clinical lead for neonates and paediatrics, told her during a general review meeting that there were concerns about Letby’s clinical practices.
Ms Rees says she was told at this stage that senior paediatrician Dr Stephen Brearey thought Letby should be removed from the neonatal unit.
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The retired nursing chief says in her statement: “I immediately went to find Ravi Jayaram and Stephen Brearey in order to obtain more information about the allegations that had been made. I went straightaway as it was a Friday afternoon, and I was conscious that staff would be going home for the weekend. I wanted to find out what the concerns were.”
She adds that she went to the office the two men shared but Dr Brearey wasn’t there.
Ms Rees continues: “Ravi wouldn’t give me any information to explain why Lucy Letby should be removed from the unit. He said nothing about air embolus, or over-feeding. He did not even mention babies dying and Lucy Letby being present. He just asked for Lucy Letby to be removed from the NNU (neo-natal unit).”
Ms Rees says she felt she “urgently” needed to speak with Mr Brearey about concerns around Letby.
She added that after she got hold of him, she explained to the senior paediatrician that she needed more information before she could remove a nurse from the neo-natal unit.
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Ms Rees says in her statement: “Stephen Brearey was measured throughout… I said that if there were issues, then I needed to know what they were.
“Despite that, he refused to give me any more information. He said that he had evidence, but he refused to show it to me.”
Ms Rees says she still doesn’t understand why Dr Brearey wouldn’t provide her with more information.
“At no point did he say that he suspected she had been purposely harming babies. If he had said that there had been 16 deaths, and that she was present for all of them, then my actions may well have differed.
“If Stephen Brearey had given me whatever evidence he said he had, that may have meant that a further death could potentially have been prevented,” she adds in her statement.
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It has also been claimed Dr Brearey had asked Ms Rees if she would be happy if “something happened to any of the babies tomorrow?”.
The retired nursing chief is alleged to have said “yes”.
Ms Rees says in her statement that the claim is “completely untrue” and an “outrageous allegation to make”.
She adds that she is “currently taking legal advice about the untrue allegations”.
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Ms Rees’ statement directly contradicts the allegations made by Dr Brearey, who said during Letby’s trial: “She (Ms Rees) was familiar with our concerns already. I explained what had happened and I didn’t want nurse Letby to come back to work the following day or until this was all investigated properly.
“Karen Rees said ‘no’ to that and that there was no evidence.
“I put it to her – was she happy to take responsibility for this decision, in view of the fact that myself and my consultant colleagues all wouldn’t be happy with nurse Letby going to work the following day?
“She responded she was happy to take that responsibility.”
Sky News has contacted Dr Brearey and Mr Jayaram for comment.
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MasterChef’s Gregg Wallace steps down as Kirsty Wark among 13 who claim he made inappropriate sexual jokes
MasterChef host Gregg Wallace has stepped down over allegations he made a series of inappropriate sexual comments on a range of programmes over 17 years.
Broadcaster Kirsty Wark is among 13 people who have made claims, with Wallace being investigated by MasterChef’s production company Banijay UK.
In an interview with the BBC, the Newsnight presenter, who was a celebrity contestant on MasterChef in 2011, claimed Wallace used “sexualised language”.
“There were two occasions in particular where he used sexualised language in front of a number of people and it wasn’t as if it was anyone engaged with this,” Wark said.
“It was completely one-way traffic. I think people were uncomfortable and something that I really didn’t expect to happen.”
Sky News has contacted Wallace’s representative for comment.
Kirsty Wark. File pic: PA
‘Fully cooperating’
Banijay UK said the complaints were made to the BBC this week by “individuals in relation to historical allegations of misconduct while working with Gregg Wallace on one of our shows”.
The company said the 60-year-old, who has been a co-presenter and judge of the popular cooking show since 2005, was “committed to fully cooperating throughout the process”.
“Whilst these complainants have not raised the allegations directly with our show producers or parent company Banijay UK, we feel that it is appropriate to conduct an immediate, external review to fully and impartially investigate,” the company said.
“While this review is under way, Gregg Wallace will be stepping away from his role on MasterChef and is committed to fully co-operating throughout the process.
“Banijay UK’s duty of care to staff is always a priority and our expectations regarding behaviour are made clear to both cast and crew on all productions, with multiple ways of raising concerns, including anonymously, clearly promoted on set.
“Whilst these are historical allegations, incidences brought to our attention where these expectations are not met, are thoroughly investigated and addressed appropriately.”
A BBC spokesman said: “We take any issues that are raised with us seriously and we have robust processes in place to deal with them.
“We are always clear that any behaviour which falls below the standards expected by the BBC will not be tolerated.
“Where an individual is contracted directly by an external production company we share any complaints or concerns with that company and we will always support them when addressing them.”
Previous investigation
Last month, Wallace responded to reports that a previous BBC review had found he could continue working at the corporation following reports of an alleged incident in 2018 when he appeared on Impossible Celebrities.
Wallace said those claims had been investigated “promptly” at the time and said he had not said “anything sexual” while appearing on the game show more than half a decade ago.
In an Instagram post following an article in The Sun newspaper, he wrote: “The story that’s hitting the newspapers was investigated promptly when it happened six years ago by the BBC.
“And the outcome of that was that I hadn’t said anything sexual. I’ll need to repeat this again. I didn’t say anything sexual.”
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Alongside MasterChef, Wallace presented Inside The Factory for BBC Two from 2015.
Wallace and Anne-Marie Sterpini in 2014. Pic: PA
Wallace has featured on various BBC shows over the years, including Saturday Kitchen, Eat Well For Less, Supermarket Secrets, Celebrity MasterChef and MasterChef: The Professionals, as well as being a Strictly Come Dancing contestant in 2014.
He was made an MBE for services to food and charity last year.
Recorded episodes of MasterChef: The Professionals featuring Wallace will be transmitted as planned, the PA news agency understands.
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