Mike Monegan saw the writing on the wall in January. For weeks, he’d had difficulty sleeping.
As vice president of product management for Australian artificial intelligence software vendor Appen, Monegan and many of his colleagues had been doing their best to keep things afloat as tech behemoths slashed their spending on the company’s AI training data.
Five customers — Microsoft, Apple, Meta, Google, and Amazon — accounted for 80% of Appen’s revenue, and this was supposed to be the company’s moment to shine. Across the industry, companies were committing to hefty investments in generative AI, trying to ensure they weren’t left behind in the sudden race to embed the latest large language models into all of their projects.
Appen has a platform of about one million freelance workers in more than 170 countries. In the past, it’s used that network of people to train some of the world’s leading AI systems, working for a star-studded list of tech companies, including the top consumer names as well as Adobe, Salesforce and Nvidia.
But just as AI’s big moment was arriving, Appen was losing business — and fast. Revenue declined 13% in 2022, a drop the company attributed in part to “challenging external operating and macro conditions.” Former employees, who asked not to be named for fear of retaliation, told CNBC that the company’s current struggle to pivot to generative AI reflects years of weak quality controls and a disjointed organizational structure.
In mid-December, Appen announced a change at the top. Armughan Ahmad, a 25-year veteran of the tech industry, would be taking over as CEO, replacing Mark Brayan, who had helmed the company for the prior seven years. Upon starting the following month, Ahmad called generative AI “one of the most exciting advancements” in the industry and noted that he “was happy to learn that our team has already put the technology to work on our marketing content.”
Monegan wasn’t buying it. He told CNBC that after his first meeting with Ahmad he began looking for another job. Monegan had been watching Appen fall behind, and he didn’t see Ahmad, whose LinkedIn profile says he’s based in Seattle, presenting a realistic path out.
Monegan left in March to help start his own company.
The numbers seem to prove him right.
Despite Appen’s enviable client list and its nearly 30-year history, the company’s struggles have intensified this year. Revenue in the first half of 2023 tumbled 24% to $138.9 million, amid what it called a “broader technology slowdown.” The company said its underlying loss widened to $34.2 million from $3.8 million a year earlier.
“Our data and services power the world’s leading AI models,” Ahmad said on last week’s earnings call. “However, our results are far from satisfactory. They reflect the ongoing global macroeconomic pressures and continued slowdown in tech spending, particularly amongst our largest customers.”
In August 2020, Appen’s shares peaked at AU$42.44 on the Australian Securities Exchange, sending its market cap to the equivalent of $4.3 billion. Now, the stock is trading at around AU$1.52, for a market cap of around $150 million.
‘Resetting the business’
Along with its troubled financials, the company is dealing with a string of executive departures. Helen Johnson, who was appointed finance chief in May, left after just seven weeks in the role. Marketing chief Fab Dolan, whose departure was announced on the earnings call, spent just over two months in the position. The departure of Chief Product Officer Sujatha Sagiraju was also just announced.
“In the environment of a turnaround, we anticipate changes,” a representative for Appen told CNBC.
Elena Sagunova, global human resources director, left in April, followed by Jen Cole, senior vice president of enterprise, in July and Jukka Korpi, senior manager of business development for the Europe, Middle East and Africa Region, in August.
Still, Ahmad said on the earnings call that the company remains “laser-focused on resetting the business” as it pivots to providing data for generative AI models. He added that “the benefits from our turnaround have yet to show meaningful results” and that “the revenue growth does not offset the declines we are experiencing in the remainder of the business.”
Appen’s past work for tech companies has been on projects like evaluating the relevance of search results, helping AI assistants understand requests in different accents, categorizing e-commerce images using AI and building out map locations of electric vehicle charging stations, according to public information and interviews conducted by CNBC.
Appen has also touted its work on search relevance for Adobe and on translation services for Microsoft, as well as in providing training data for lidar companies, security applications and automotive manufacturers.
Depending on the data that a customer requires, an Appen freelancer could be sitting at a laptop to label or categorize images or search results or using Appen’s mobile application to capture the sounds of glass breaking or background noise in a vehicle.
During Appen’s growth years, that manual collection of data was key for the state of AI at the time. But LLMs of today have changed the game. The underlying models behind OpenAI’s ChatGPT and by Google’s Bard are scouring the digital universe to provide sophisticated answers and advanced images in response to simple text queries.
To fuel their LLMs, which are powered largely by state-of-the-art processors from Nvidia, companies are spending less on Appen and a lot more on competitive services that already specialize in generative AI.
Ahmad told CNBC in a statement that, while the company’s financials are being hurt by the economy and a reduction in spending by top customers, “I’m confident that our disciplined focus and the early progress we are making to turn around the business will enable us to capture value from the growing generative AI market and return Appen to growth.”
Cash-strapped
Ahmad said on the earnings call that there’s customer interest in niche types of data that’s more difficult to acquire. For Appen, that would mean finding specialists in particular types of information that can bolster generative AI systems. That also means it needs to expand its base of workers while simultaneously finding ways to preserve cash.
Appen’s cash on hand was $55 million as of June 30, thanks to proceeds from a $38 million equity raise. Prior to the new infusion, cash had been dwindling, from $48 million at the end of 2021 to $23.4 million a year later.
Even before the generative AI transition, wages for Appen’s data labelers were a sticking point. In 2019, Google said its contractors would need to pay their workers $15 an hour. Appen didn’t meet that requirement, according to public letters written by some workers.
In January, after months of organizing, raises went into effect for Appen freelancers working on the Bard chatbot and other Google products. The rates went up to between $14 and 14.50 per hour.
That wasn’t the end of the story. In May, Appen was accused of squeezing freelancers focused on generative AI, allotting strict time limits for time-consuming tasks such as evaluating a complex answer for accuracy. One worker, Ed Stackhouse, wrote a letter to two senators stating his concerns about the dangers of such constrained working conditions.
“The fact that raters are exploited leads to a faulty, and ultimately more dangerous product,” he wrote. “Raters are not given the time to deliver and test a perfect AI model under the Average Estimated Time (AET) model they are paid for,” a practice that “leads raters to spot check only a handful of facts before the task must be submitted,” he added.
In June, Appen faced charges from the U.S. National Labor Relations Board after allegedly firing six freelancers who spoke out publicly about frustrations with workplace conditions. The workers were later reinstated.
Appen employees who spoke to CNBC on behalf of the company in recent months said the rapidly changing AI environment poses challenges. Erik Vogt, vice president of solutions at Appen, told CNBC in May that the sector was in a state of flux.
“There’s a lot of uncertainty, a lot of tentativeness for experimentation, and new startups trying out new things,” Vogt said. “How to make new use cases a reality usually means acquiring unusual data – sometimes astronomical volumes of data, or highly rare resource types. There’s a need for specialists in a wide range of different capabilities.”
For recent projects, Vogt said Appen needed to enlist the help of doctors, lawyers and people with experience using project-tracking software Jira.
“People you wouldn’t necessarily think of as being gig workers, we had to engage with these specialists for these expert systems in a way there hadn’t been a huge demand for before,” Vogt said.
Kim Stagg, Appen’s vice president of product, said the work required for generative AI services was different than what the company has needed in the past.
“A lot of work we’ve done has been around the relevance of search for big engines – a lot of those are more, ‘Is this a hot dog or not,’ ‘Is this a good search or not,'” Stagg said. “With generative AI, we see a different demand.”
One focus Stagg highlighted was the need to find “what we would call really good quality creative people,” or those who are particularly good with language. “And another is domain experts: sports, hobbies, medical.”
However, former employees expressed deep skepticism of Appen’s ability to succeed given its tumultuous position and the executive shuffling taking place. Part of the problem, they say, is the organizational structure.
Appen was divided into a global business unit and an enterprise business unit, which were at one time made up of about five clients and more than 250 clients, respectively. Each had a separate team and communication between them was limited, creating inefficiencies internally, ex-employees said. One former manager said it felt like two separate companies. Appen said that in the last quarter, the company has integrated the global and enterprise business units.
The company’s plunging stock price suggests that investors don’t see the company’s business offerings transferring to the generative AI space.
Lisa Braden-Harder, who served as CEO of Appen until 2015, echoed that sentiment, telling CNBC that “data-labeling is completely different” than how data collection works in a ChatGPT world.
“I am not clear that their past experience of data labeling is a competitive advantage now,” she said.
Former Appen employees say the company has in recent years been dealing with quality control problems, hurting its ability to provide valuable training data for AI models. For example, one former department manager said people would annotate rows of data using automated tools instead of the manual data labeling required for accuracy, which is what clients thought they were buying.
Customers’ expectations of a “clean data set” were often not met, the person said, leading them to leave Appen for competitors such as Labelbox and Scale AI. When the manager started at the company, there were more than 250 clients in the enterprise business unit. Within 18 months, he said, that number had dwindled to less than 100.
Appen told CNBC that in the first half of the year it “secured 89 new client wins.”
Monegan recalled that many customer relationships were “hanging on by a thread.”
Following the earnings report, Canaccord Genuity analysts cut their price target on Appen by more than half to AU$1.56. One concern the analysts referenced was a 34% reduction in spending by Appen’s top customer, a number that Appen wouldn’t confirm or deny.
The more existential problem, the analysts note, revolves around Appen’s effort to win business while also looking to cut costs by 31% in fiscal 2023.
“That seems like a brutal level of cost reduction,” they wrote, as the company tries to stabilize its “core revenue base while growing a business around Generative AI.”
Google chief executive Sundar Pichai speaks during the tech titan’s annual I/O developers conference on May 14, 2024, in Mountain View, California.
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Google will start using artificial intelligence to determine whether users are age appropriate for its products, the company said Wednesday.
Google announced the new technique for determining users’ ages as part of a blog focused on “New digital protections for kids, teens and parents.” The automation will be used across Google products, including YouTube, a spokesperson confirmed. Google has billions of users across its properties and users designated as under the age of 18 have restrictions to some Google services.
“This year we’ll begin testing a machine learning-based age estimation model in the U.S.,” wrote Jenn Fitzpatrick, SVP of Google’s “Core” Technology team, in the blog post. The Core unit is responsible for building the technical foundation behind the company’s flagship products and for protecting users’ online safety.
“This model helps us estimate whether a user is over or under 18 so that we can apply protections to help provide more age-appropriate experiences,” Fitzpatrick wrote.
The latest AI move also comes as lawmakers pressure online platforms to create more provisions around child safety. The company said it will bring its AI-based age estimations to more countries over time. Meta rolled out similar features that uses AI to determine that someone may be lying about their age in September.
Google, and others within the tech industry, have been ramping their reliance on AI for various tasks and products. Using AI for age-related content represents the latest AI front for Google.
The new initiative by Google’s “Core” team comes despite the company reorganization that unit last year, laying off hundreds of employees and moving some roles to India and Mexico, CNBC reported at the time.
AppLovin shares soared almost 30% in extended trading on Wednesday after the company reported earnings and revenue that sailed past analysts’ estimates and issued better-than-expected guidance.
Here’s how the company performed compared with analysts’ expectations, according to LSEG:
Earnings per share: $1.73 vs. $1.24 expected
Revenue: $1.37 billion vs. $1.26 billion expected
Net income in the quarter more than tripled to $599.2 million, or $1.73 per share, from $172.3 million, or 51 cents per share, a year earlier, the company said in a statement.
Revenue jumped 43% from $953.3 million a year earlier.
AppLovin was the best-performing U.S. tech stock last year, soaring more than 700%, driven by the company’s artificial intelligence-powered advertising system. In 2023, AppLovin released the updated 2.0 version of its ad search engine called AXON, which helps put more targeted ads on the gaming apps the company owns and is also used by studios that license the technology.
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AppLovin’s business has been split between advertising and apps, which is primarily made up of game studios that the company has acquired over the years. With the historic growth in its advertising unit, the apps business has become much less important, and now the company says it is selling it off.
“Today we’re announcing we’ve signed an exclusive term sheet to sell all of our apps business,” CEO Adam Foroughi said on the earnings call.
Later in the call, the company said it has signed a term sheet for the sale for a “total estimated consideration” of $900 million. That includes $500 million in cash, “with the remainder representing a minority equity stake in the combined private company.”
Advertising revenue climbed 73% in the quarter to almost $1 billion. The ad business was previously categorized as Software Platform. The company said it made the change because advertising accounts for “substantially all of the revenue in this segment.”
AppLovin said it expects first-quarter revenue of between $1.36 billion and 1.39 billion, exceeding the $1.32 billion average analyst estimate, according to LSEG. More than $1 billion of that will come from its advertising segment, as the company said it is “still in the early stages” of bolstering its AI models.
“The roadmap ahead is filled with opportunities for iteration,” the company said in its shareholder letter. “As we execute, we believe we can continue to drive value creation for our shareholders.”
Cisco CEO Chuck Robbins speaking on CNBC’s “Squawk Box” outside the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, on Jan. 22, 2025.
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Cisco shares climbed about 6% in extended trading on Wednesday after the networking hardware maker reported fiscal second-quarter results and guidance that topped Wall Street’s expectations.
Here’s how the company did against LSEG consensus:
Earnings per share: 94 cents adjusted vs. 91 cents expected
Revenue: $13.99 billion vs. $13.87 billion expected
Revenue increased 9% in the quarter, which ended on Jan. 25, from $12.79 billion a year earlier, according to a statement. The growth follows four quarters of revenue declines. The company said it had orders for artificial intelligence infrastructure that exceeded $350 million in the quarter.
Cisco now sees adjusted earnings of $3.68 to $3.74 for the 2025 fiscal year, with $56 billion to $56.5 billion in revenue. Analysts polled by LSEG had been looking for $3.66 in adjusted earnings per share and $55.99 billion in revenue. In November, the forecast was $3.60 to $3.66 in earnings per share and $55.3 billion to $56.3 billion in revenue.
Net income in the latest period slid almost 8% to $2.43 billion, or 61 cents per share, from $2.63 billion, or 65 cents per share, a year ago.
Revenue from the networking division totaled $6.85 billion, down 3% but more than the $6.67 billion consensus among analysts surveyed by StreetAccount.
The security unit contributed $2.11 billion. That is a 117% increase from a year earlier, thanks to the addition of Splunk. Analysts expected $2.01 billion, according to StreetAccount.
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Splunk, which Cisco bought in March 2024 for $27 billion, was accretive to adjusted earnings per share sooner than planned, Scott Herren, Cisco’s finance chief, was quoted as saying in the statement. Cisco’s total revenue would have been down 1% year over year if not for Splunk’s contribution, according to the statement.
Many technology companies have been trying to predict the effects from President Donald Trump’s newly established Department of Government Efficiency. But three-quarters of Cisco’s U.S. federal business comes from the Defense Department, while most of the headcount cutting thus far has occurred in other agencies, Cisco CEO Chuck Robbins said on a conference call with analysts.
“Everything seems to be progressing as we expected,” he said.
Customers do not appear to be pulling up orders before tariffs go into effect, Herren said on the conference call.
As of Thursday’s close, Cisco shares were up 5% so far in 2025, while the S&P 500 index had gained about 3%.