Elon Musk and Palantir co-founder & CEO Alex Karp attend a bipartisan Artificial Intelligence (AI) Insight Forum for all U.S. senators hosted by Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, U.S., September 13, 2023.
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Tech CEOs descended on Capitol Hill Wednesday to speak with senators about artificial intelligence as lawmakers consider how to craft guardrails for the powerful technology.
It was a meeting that “may go down in history as being very important for the future of civilization,” billionaire tech executive Elon Musk told CNBC’s Eamon Javers and other reporters as he left the meeting.
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., hosted the panel of tech executives, labor and civil rights leaders as part of the Senate’s inaugural “AI Insight Forum.” Sens. Mike Rounds, R-S.D., Martin Heinrich, D-N.M., and Todd Young, R-Ind., helped organize the event and have worked with Schumer on other sessions educating lawmakers on AI.
Top tech executives in attendance Wednesday included:
The panel, attended by more than 60 senators, according to Schumer, took place behind closed doors. Schumer said the closed forum allowed for an open discussion among the attendees, without the normal time and format restrictions of a public hearing. But Schumer said some future forums would be open to public view.
Top U.S. technology leaders including Tesla CEO Elon Musk, Meta Platforms CEO Mark Zuckerberg, Alphabet CEO Sundar Pichai, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella, IBM CEO Arvind Krishna and former Microsoft CEO Bill Gates take their seats for the start of a bipartisan Artificial Intelligence (AI) Insight Forum for all U.S. senators hosted by Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, U.S., September 13, 2023.
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The panel also featured several other stakeholders representing labor, civil rights and the creative industry. Among those were leaders like:
Motion Picture Association Chairman and CEO Charles Rivkin
AFL-CIO President Liz Shuler
Writers Guild President Meredith Steihm
American Federation of Teachers President Randi Weingarten
Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights President and CEO Maya Wiley
After the morning session, the AFL-CIO’s Shuler told reporters that the meeting was a unique chance to bring together a wide range of voices.
In response to a question about getting to speak with Musk, Shuler said, “I think it was just an opportunity to be in each other’s space, but we don’t often cross paths and so to bring a worker’s voice and perspective into the room with tech executives, with advocates, with lawmakers is a really unusual place to be.”
“It was a very civilized discussion actually among some of the smartest people in the world,” Musk told reporters on his way out. “Sen. Schumer did a great service to humanity here along with the support of the rest of the Senate. And I think something good will come of this.”
Google’s Pichai outlined four areas where Congress could play an important role in AI development, according to his prepared remarks. First by crafting policies that support innovation, including through research and development investment or immigration laws that incentivize talented workers to come to the U.S. Second, “by driving greater use of AI in government,” third by applying AI to big problems like detecting cancer, and finally by “advancing a workforce transition agenda that benefits everyone.”
Google CEO Sundar Pichai, arrives for a US Senate bipartisan Artificial Intelligence (AI) Insight Forum at the US Capitol in Washington, DC, on September 13, 2023.
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Meta’s Zuckerberg said he sees safety and access as the “two defining issues for AI,” according to his prepared remarks. He said Meta is being “deliberate about how we roll out these products,” by openly publishing research, partnering with academics and setting policies for how its AI models can be used.
He touted Meta’s open-source AI work as a way to ensure broad access to the technology. Still, he said, “we’re not zealots about this. We don’t open source everything. We think closed models are good too, but we also think a more open approach creates more value in many cases.”
Working toward legislation
Schumer said in his prepared remarks that the event marked the beginning of “an enormous and complex and vital undertaking: building a foundation for bipartisan AI policy that Congress can pass.”
There’s broad interest in Washington in creating guardrails for AI, but so far many lawmakers have said they want to learn more about the technology before figuring out the appropriate restrictions.
But Schumer told reporters after the morning session that legislation should come in a matter of months, not years.
“If you go too fast, you could ruin things,” Schumer said. “The EU went too fast, and now they have to go back. So what we’re saying is, on a timeline, it can’t be days or weeks, but nor should it be years. It will be in the general category of months.”
U.S. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) addresses a press conference during a break in a bipartisan Artificial Intelligence (AI) Insight Forum for all U.S. senators at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, September 13, 2023.
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Schumer said he expects the actual legislation to come through the committees. This session provides the necessary foundation for them to do this work, he said. Successful legislation will need to be bipartisan, Schumer added, saying he’d spoken with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., who was “encouraging.”
Schumer said he’d asked everyone in the room Wednesday if they believe government needs to play a role in regulating AI, and everyone raised their hand.
The broad group that attended the morning session did not get into detail about whether a licensing regime or some other model would be most appropriate, Schumer said, adding that it would be discussed further in the afternoon session. Still, he said, they heard a variety of opinions on whether a “light touch” was the right approach to regulation and whether a new or existing agency should oversee AI.
Young said those in the room agreed that U.S. values should inform the development of AI, rather than those of the Chinese Communist Party.
While Schumer has led this effort for a broad legislative framework, he said his colleagues need not wait to craft bills for their ideas about AI regulation. But putting together sensible legislation that can also pass will take time.
Sen. Maria Cantwell, D-Wash., who leads the Commerce Committee, predicted lawmakers could get AI legislation “done in the next year.” She referenced the Chips and Science Act, a bipartisan law that set aside funding for semiconductor manufacturing, as an example of being able to pass important technology legislation fairly quickly.
“This is the hardest thing that I think we have ever undertaken,” Schumer told reporters. “But we can’t be like ostriches and put our head in the sand. Because if we don’t step forward, things will be a lot worse.”
File: Meta President Global Affairs Nick Clegg speaks during a press conference at the Meta showroom in Brussels on December 07, 2022.
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The chance of a market correction in the artificial intelligence sector is “pretty high,” former Meta executive and British politician Nick Clegg warned on Wednesday, as he pushed back on the concept of artificial superintelligence.
Clegg, the former deputy prime minister of the U.K. who went on to guide policy decisions at U.S. tech giant Meta, said the AI boom has resulted in “unbelievable, crazy valuations.”
“There’s just absolute spasm of almost daily, hourly, deal making,” he told CNBC’s Arjun Kharpal for “Squawk Box Europe.”
“You’ve got to think, wow, this could be headed for a correction,” he said, adding that the likelihood of such an event is “pretty high.”
Bubbles are typically defined by inflated valuations across the private or public market, where the price of a company doesn’t match its fundamentals.
A correction comes down to whether large hyperscalers — “who are pouring hundreds of billions of dollars into the ground and building these data centers” — can recoup their infrastructure investments and prove their business models are sustainable, Clegg said.
“That’s obviously going to raise some issues,” he added, as is “the fundamental paradigm on which this whole industry is built, the so-called large language model AI paradigm.”
Superintelligence versus utility
That “paradigm” is the goal of artificial superintelligence, typically defined as when AI surpasses human intelligence — which is often perceived as the “holy grail,” Clegg said — opposed to artificial general intelligence, where AI systems have human-level capabilities.
Many high-profile tech chiefs and investors have backed the idea of artificial superintelligence, including SoftBank founder Masayoshi Son and Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg, the latter of which created an AI lab to pursue the technology earlier this year.
“I think there are certain limits to that probabilistic AI technology, which means that it won’t perhaps be quite as all singing and all dancing as people suggest,” Clegg added. “But it doesn’t mean that technology itself is not going to persist, it’s not going to flourish and is not going to have a huge effect.”
Indeed, Clegg’s former employer Meta emerged from the dot-com era bubble and is today one of the world’s largest companies. Amazon and Google charted a similar course, showing that a bubble bursting does not always mean the end of a company.
It’s a common adage in venture capital that the best companies are built in a downturn or tough funding environment, often due to investors watching their bottom line more closely and putting greater emphasis on sound business metrics when making investment decisions. This forces business leaders to operate more efficiently, with those who can do more with less funding likely outliving competitors.
Clegg’s stance mirrors that of other investors and tech leaders, who believe a bubble is emerging, but it doesn’t mean that AI isn’t here to stay.
The pile-in has created an “industrial bubble” but “AI is real, and it is going to change every industry,” Jeff Bezos told a crowd at Italian Tech Week earlier this month.
There is low-hanging fruit where AI can be applied quickly, but society at large will adopt the technology more slowly, according to Clegg.
“There’s a lot of hype. People in Silicon Valley assume that if you invent a technology on Tuesday, everybody’s going to use it on Thursday. It’s not actually how it works at all,” he said.
“It took 20 years for all of us to get onto desktop computing after desktop computing was technologically feasible. So, I think it’s the pace that is the thing to look out for. That will vary sector from sector to sector, country by country, but I think it might be just a little bit slower than some of the technologists themselves are predicting at the moment,” he added.
The TSMC logo is displayed on a building in Hsinchu, Taiwan April 15, 2025.
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Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company on Thursday reported a 39.1% increase in third-quarter profit from last year, hitting a fresh record as demand for artificial intelligence chips stayed strong.
Here are the company’s results versus LSEG SmartEstimates:
Revenue: NT$989.92 billion new Taiwan dollars, vs. NT$977.46 billion expected
Net income: NT$452.3 billion, vs. NT$417.69 billion
TSMC’s revenue in the September quarter rose 30.3% from a year ago to NT$989.92 billion, beating estimates.
TSMC’s high-performance computing division, which encompasses artificial intelligence and 5G applications, drove third-quarter sales.
As Asia’s largest technology company by market capitalization, TSMC has benefited from the artificial-intelligence megatrend as it manufactures advanced AI processors for clients, including Nvidia and Apple.
TSMC said advanced chips, with sizes 7-nanometer or smaller, accounted for 74% of TSMC’s total wafer revenue in the quarter.
In semiconductor technology, smaller nanometer sizes signify more compact transistor designs, which lead to greater processing power and efficiency.
Regulators in the U.S. have moved to block one of Hong Kong’s largest telecommunications companies from accessing domestic networks, citing national security concerns.
The U.S. Federal Communications Commission announced on Wednesday that it had initiated proceedings to potentially bar HKT Trust and HKT Ltd and its subsidiaries from interconnecting with American networks, escalating concerns over its ties to China.
The government agency asked HKT, which is a subsidiary of information and communication technology giant PCCW, to justify why its authorizations should not be revoked. HKT’s current hold permits allowing direct exchange of calls and data with U.S. carriers.
China Unicom, which owns about 18.4% of PCCW, lost its own U.S. network access in 2022 due to similar concerns.
“The FCC’s action on HKT today is an appropriate step towards ensuring the safety and integrity of our communications networks,” FCC Chairman Brendan Carr said in a statement.
“The FCC will continue to safeguard America’s networks against penetration from foreign adversaries, like China.“
The Hong Kong-listed shares of HKT fell more than 5%, while PCCW fell 3.6% in Thursday trading.
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Share price of HKT and PCCW
According to their 2024 annual reports, HKT and PCCW derived about 13% of their 2024 revenues from regions outside greater China and Singapore, though specific countries weren’t detailed. HKT made up about 90% of the group’s total revenue.
Neither PCCW nor HKT immediately responded to CNBC’s requests for comment.
Under the leadership of Carr, the FCC has expanded efforts to expel Chinese state-linked entities, including China Telecom, Pacific Networks and ComNet, from U.S. markets.
On Friday, the FCC announced that the major U.S. online retail websites had removed millions of listings for banned Chinese electronics as part of its broader China crackdown.
Caught in U.S.-China trade tensions
PCCW is majority-owned by Hong Kong tycoon Richard Li, son of billionaire Li Ka-shing, who has increasingly found his businesses caught in the crossfire of the U.S.-China trade tensions.
FWD Group, owned by Li’s Pacific Century Group, recently faced hurdles expanding into mainland China amid backlash from regulators in China, Bloomberg reported in July.
In March, Beijing reportedly instructed state-owned firms to pause new deals with businesses linked to Li Ka-shing and his family after their conglomerate CK Hutchison agreed to transfer stakes in over 40 global ports — including two in Panama — to a BlackRock-led consortium.
The ports deal stalled after Beijing objected to the exclusion of Chinese investors, with CK Hutchison indicating it no longer plans to comeplete the transaction in 2025.
The FCC’s latest move against HKT also comes as U.S. President Donald Trump escalates his trade war with China.