Rivian has been one of the few EV makers (or automakers in general) to avoid cutting prices. That trend will likely continue. According to Rivian’s CEO, RJ Scaringe, new orders are driving up the average sales price (ASP) on its vehicles.
A day after Rivian easily beat Q3 earnings expectations as several of its peers faltered, Scaringe said average selling prices continue to “trend upwards.”
In an interview with Bloomberg TV, Rivian’s CEO explained, “There’s an evolution of our average selling price which continues to trend upwards as we move in to new orders.”
Rivian’s gross profit per vehicle delivered has improved all year. The EV maker lost about $31K for every vehicle delivered in the third quarter. Although that’s still a big deficit, it’s a significant improvement from last year’s Q3 loss of $139,277 per vehicle.
“There’s a whole host of changes that are happening in our material costs,” Scaringe explained.
He attributed improvements in material costs, plant upgrades, and “fixed cost absorption from running higher volumes” to the narrowing losses.
Q3 ’22
Q4 ’22
Q1 ’23
Q2 ’23
Q3 ’23
Rivian loss per vehicle
$139,277
$124,162
$67,329
$32,594
$31,000
Rivian loss per vehicle quarterly
After building 16,304 vehicles in the third quarter, Rivian raised its 2023 production guidance to 54,000. Rivian’s deliveries also rose 24% in Q3.
Meanwhile, Rivian is still working through its backlog of early orders, many of which were around $20K less than current prices.
(Source: Rivian)
Rivian’s average selling price per vehicle is higher
On Tuesday, Rivian’s CFO Claire McDonough explained on the company’s earnings call that we will see the “full impacts” of new technology (like its in-house Enduro motors) driving down material costs next year.
Following a shutdown in the second quarter of 2024, Rivian plans to introduce “a number of new technologies to the R1 platform.”
Rivian production at its Normal, Ill facility (Source: Rivian)
Rivian believes the changes will “meaningfully reduce our material costs and position Rivian to exit 2024 with a much-improved margin profile.”
The downtime will impact two quarters (Q2 and Q3), but Q4 will become the “run rate potential for the business.” Rivian will ramp up both R1 and commercial volumes.
Furthermore, “those elements come together in connection as well with Rivian fulfilling our pre-3/1/2022 preorders.” McDonough added, “which also results in a step change in our average selling price of the vehicle over that period of time as well.”
Rivian R1S (Source: Rivian)
Rivian also ended its exclusivity deal with Amazon, enabling it to sell its electric delivery vans to anyone. Scaringe said the company was in talks with a “pipeline” of potential customers.
The EV maker will unveil a prototype of its R2 compact electric SUV in early 2024. The R2 lineup will be cheaper but “just as much as Rivian.”
Electrek’s Take
So, is the EV market “slowing,” as many media outlets claim? Rivian seems to be debunking that theory.
The automaker continues seeing higher demand for its vehicles despite the +$70,000 price tag. Not only that, it has consistently improved the profitability of its vehicles.
Other automakers, including Ford and GM, have delayed investments, but Rivian’s vehicles are unique. The automaker sells an electric adventure vehicle designed from the ground up as a functional all-electric workhorse.
Between rising interest rates and Tesla’s price cuts this year, many automakers are struggling to keep up.
With Tesla’s Model Y starting at $43,990 and leases starting at $399 per month, Tesla is squeezing other models like Ford’s Mustang Mach-E out of the segment.
Rivian and Tesla are driving up demand with unique products offered at a value to the customer. With new affordable electric models hitting the market next year, including the Volvo EX30 (see our review), expect EV demand to continue climbing even higher.
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Vermont’s EV adoption has surged by an impressive 41% over the past year, with nearly 18,000 EVs now registered statewide.
According to data from Drive Electric Vermont and the Vermont Agency of Natural Resources, 17,939 EVs were registered as of January 2025, increasing by 5,185 vehicles. Notably, over 12% of all new cars registered last year in Vermont had a plug. Additionally, used EVs are gaining popularity, accounting for about 15% of new EV registrations.
To put it in perspective, Vermont took six years to register its first 5,000 EVs – and the last 5,000 were added in just the previous year.
Rapid growth, expanding infrastructure
In just two years, Vermont has doubled its fleet of EVs, underscoring residents’ enthusiasm for electric driving. To support this surge, the state now boasts 459 public EV chargers, including 92 DC fast chargers.
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The EV mix in Vermont is leaning increasingly toward BEVs, which represent 60% of the state’s EV fleet. The remaining 40% consists of PHEVs, offering flexible fuel options for drivers.
Top EV models in Vermont
Vermont’s favorite EVs in late 2024 included the Hyundai Ioniq 5, Nissan Ariya, Toyota RAV4 Prime PHEV, Tesla Model Y, and the Ford F-150 Lightning. These vehicles have appealed to Vermont drivers looking for reliability, performance, and practical features that work well in Vermont’s climate.
Leading the US in reducing emissions
This strong adoption of EVs earned Vermont the top ranking from the Natural Resources Defense Council for reducing greenhouse gas emissions in transportation in 2023. “It’s only getting easier for Vermonters to drive electric,” noted Michele Boomhower, Vermont’s Department of Transportation director. She emphasized the growing variety of EV models, including electric trucks and SUVs with essential features like all-wheel drive, crucial for Vermont’s climate and terrain.
Local dealerships boost EV accessibility
Nucar Automall, an auto dealer in St. Albans, is a great example of local support driving this trend. With help from Efficiency Vermont’s EV dealer incentives – receiving $25,000 through the EV Readiness Incentive program – it recently installed 15 EV chargers for new buyers and existing drivers to use.
“Having these chargers on the lot makes it easier for customers to see just how simple charging an EV can be,” said Ryan Ortiz, general manager at Nucar Automall. Ortiz also pointed out the growing affordability of EVs, thanks to more models becoming available and an increase in pre-owned EVs coming off leases.
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Elon Musk said Tesla’s self-driving will start contributing to the company’s profits… wait for it… “next year” with “millions of Tesla robotaxis in operation during the second half of the year.”
The claim has become a running joke, as he has made it for the last decade.
During Tesla’s conference call following the release of its Q1 2025 financial results, Musk updated shareholders about Tesla’s self-driving plans, which he again presented as critical to the company’s future.
He made a series of claims, mainly updating timelines about Tesla’s self-driving efforts.
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Here are the main comments:
The CEO reiterated that Tesla will launch its paid autonomous ride-sharing service in Austin in June.
He did clarify that the fleet will consist of Model Y vehicles and not the new Cybercab.
Musk also confirmed that Tesla is currently training a fleet specifically for Austin.
As we previously reported, this internal ride-hailing fleet operating in a geo-fenced with teleoperation assist is a big change from Tesla’s approach.
Musk said “10 to 20 vehicles” on day one.
Musk said that Tesla’s self-driving will start contributing positively to the company financially in the middle of next year, and “There will be millions of Teslas operating autonomously in the second half of next year.”
Musk has literally said something similar every year for the past decade and therefore, it’s hard to take him seriously.
The CEO claimed that Tesla would get “a 90-something percentage market share” in the autonomous market.
Musk again claimed that no one else is getting close to Tesla’s capacity, and he criticized Waymo for being too expensive.
Musk is “confident” that the first Model Y will drive itself from the factory to a customer’s home later this year.
The CEO said that he is confident that Tesla will deliver “unsupervised full self-driving” in consumer vehicles by the end of the year.
Despite Tesla missing earnings expectations by a wide margin, the company’s stock rose 4% in after-hours trading following Musk’s comments, indicating that shareholders still believe Musk’s self-driving predictions, despite his predictions having been incorrect for almost a decade.
Electrek’s Take
The first point I believe will happen. Tesla needs it to happen. It badly needs a win on the self-driving front.
However, as we previously explained, while Tesla will claim a win in June, it will be with a limited geo-fenced and teleoperation-assisted system that won’t scale to customer vehicles, which is what has been promised for years.
Tesla was even asked how it plans to launch this in Austin in June, when FSD in consumer vehicles currently requires frequent interventions from drivers, and Ashok, Tesla’s head of autonomous driving, admitted his team is currently focused on solving the intervention specifically related to driving in Austin.
With training on specific Austin routes and using teleoperations, Tesla can make that happen, but the road between that and unsupervised self-driving in consumer vehicles and “million of Tesla robotaxis” in the second of next year is a long one.
Basically, other than the first point, I believe Tesla will not achieve any of the other on anything close to the timelines announced by Musk today.
I’m willing to take bets on that.
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