I have been driving with Tesla’s Full Self-Driving (FSD) Beta for about two years now, and during that time, it saved me once and tried to kill me twice.
How should I feel about that?
The Promise
In 2016, I enthusiastically listened to Elon Musk announcing that from now on, every new Tesla vehicle will be equipped with all the hardware necessary to become self-driving through future software updates.
I had an older Model S at the time and couldn’t afford a new one, but I loved the idea that you can buy a car and in the future, it could become self-driving.
In 2018, I bought a Model 3 with the promise that it would become self-driving. I purchased the Full Self-Driving Capability package for $5,000 CAD (now $16,000 CAD).
Shortly after Musk announced that all new Tesla had all the necessary hardware to become self-driving with its onboard computer, cameras, radar, and ultrasonic sensors, he did signal that there might be a need for a computer upgrade.
That’s OK. In 2019, Tesla sent a mobile technician to my home who quickly changed my HW2 computer for the new HW3/self-driving computer.
Starting in 2019 forward, Musk basically said that Tesla would deliver its self-driving capability by the end of every year, but we are now in 2024, and it hasn’t.
The Delivery
I have been enjoying Autopilot features in my Model 3 for years. It removes some of the mundane tasks of driving on the highway and allows you to focus on keeping your eyes on the road and being ready to take control at all times.
However, it is not a self-driving taxi like I was promised.
Instead, Tesla delivered Full Self-Driving (FSD) Beta. The feature enables the vehicle to control itself through intersections, city streets, and highways. The vehicle virtually drives itself. However, Tesla doesn’t take responsibility for it. The driver is always responsible and has to be ready to take control at all times.
In itself, the system is impressive, but it is not the robotaxi Tesla promised. It is able to render its environment to an impressive level of accuracy, and it can navigate difficult intersections, but it also often fails in dangerous ways.
I received FSD Beta in early 2022. Shortly after, I tried it in the Blue Ridge mountains, and I had a terrible experience.
As I was going through a sharp right turn, FSD Beta decided to stop turning halfway through the turn and brought the steering wheel back straight. If I didn’t instantly grabbed the wheel and applied the brakes, I would have driven us right off the cliff side (around 12:30 in this video):
It was a very scary situation. Fortunately, I was hyper-vigilant because it was one of the first times I used it. I could see if someone becomes complaisant with the system that it could be super dangerous as I only had a fraction of a second to react.
It wasn’t the only time FSD Beta almost killed me.
I was driving on the highway on FSD Beta with the speed set at 118 km/h (73 mph) on the 20 direction Montreal, and the system automatically moved to the left lane to pass a car.
As I was passing the car, I felt FSD Beta veering aggressively to the left toward the median strip.
I was able to steer back toward the road, which disengaged FSD Beta. It was super scary as I almost lost control when correcting FSD Beta and again, I was passing a vehicle. I could have crashed into it if I overcorrected.
A few moments later, I gave FSD Beta another shot thinking that I might have an idea of what went wrong, and I was actually able to repeat the problem.
As I moved to the left lane again, I was way more alert, and when FSD Beta again veered to the left toward the median strip, this time I saw one of those sections for U-turns for emergency vehicles:
FSD Beta tried to enter it at full speed. I again was able to correct it in time and sent Tesla a bug report, though it cut me off before I could explain what happened. It should be clear if they can pull the video.
This is a very dangerous behavior as there would have been no room for me to slow down if I had entered the median at highway speed, or I could have crashed into another vehicle if I had overcorrected to the right. I also only had a fraction of a second to react.
That was actually a dangerous behavior – trying to take exits and medians when it shouldn’t – that used to be in Autopilot early on, but it was new to FSD Beta for me.
Now, on another occasion, FSD Beta actually saved me. I was in traffic in the middle lane on the highway, and I got distracted by what appeared to be a near-crash on my right and a car blasting its horn. As this happened, a car coming from the right lane cut me off as I was turning my head back, and I believe FSD Beta reacted to the car cutting me off before I could because I was looking to the right.
Tesla FSD Beta is now on its 12th version and the automaker is yet to offer a clear path toward taking responsibility for the system and delivering on its promise of self-driving.
Electrek’s Take
Now, you could argue that this is a net positive. I was able to correct FSD Beta the two times it almost killed me, and if it hadn’t reacted in the traffic on the last example, I most likely would have had a crash.
I would agree with that. My general take is that it is safer to drive with FSD Beta than without as long as you are paying as much or more attention as you would if you were driving without.
I think the main problem comes with people being overconfident with the system. Of course, you open yourself to that when you decide to call it “Full Self-Driving”. I know that Tesla tells people to keep paying attention at all times, and that’s good, but it might not be enough amid all the promotion around the capability.
You have the company’s CEO continuously talking about the next FSD Beta update being “mind-blowing,” and he is sharing videos of “no intervention drives” from his fans. For example, Musk often shares videos from Omar Qazi, who goes by Wholeblogmars on X. He shares the videos as examples of the incredible performance of the FSD Beta system, but they are not really representative of the average experience.
First off, they are virtually all in California, and Tesla admits that the system works better in California, where most of the training happened.
Also, Qazi has evidently been using a third-party product to avoid standard alerts to put his hands on the steering wheel, which makes his videos unrepresentative of how people use the system or should use it.
Tesla should spend more time denouncing those things and making it clear that the feature they call Full Self-Driving is not representative of its name for now. But that’s hard to do because every time Tesla does that, it highlights its own failure to deliver on its promise.
For years, Musk has claimed that Tesla’s Autopilot and FSD beta is safer than driving normally, but he hasn’t supported with believable data.
Tesla CEO Elon Musk said the company will remove “safety monitors” from the passenger seats of Tesla’s Robotaxi vehicles in “about three weeks,” which would mean we’d see completely driverless Teslas in the Austin area potentially by the end of the year – if that timeline sticks.
Tesla has been working on a system that would allow vehicles to drive themselves, which has been in “beta” release for over a decade now. It calls this system “Full Self-Driving,” despite the fact that the system does not currently drive itself.
That has not stopped Musk from consistently promising more and more of the system, despite its stagnating capabilities. Over the course of the last decade, Musk has consistently promised driverless vehicles within the coming year, with deadlines consistently passing by without achieving that goal.
One of those promises has been the creation of a driverless taxi network, which Tesla used to call “Tesla Network” and is now calling “Robotaxi.” The idea originally came with the promise that owners could use their cars to make money by running them as taxis, but that hasn’t panned out.
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Tesla did roll out its own version of a taxi network, though, in Austin, in June of this year. While it’s done a few cool things, the cars each have a “safety monitor” in the passenger seat who can take control at any time, which means the cars aren’t truly “driverless” since there is an operator, they’ve just been moved to the passenger seat.
But now we have another bold prediction from Musk, stating that the safety monitors will be out of a job by the end of the year.
During a videoconference at a hackathon event for xAI, one of Musk’s other companies (which he is trying to get Tesla shareholders to bail out), Musk was asked a question about the barriers to unsupervised full self-driving. Musk answered:
Unsupervised is pretty much solved at this point. There will be Tesla Robotaxis operating in Austin with no one in them, not even anyone in the passenger seat, in about three weeks. I think it’s pretty much a solved problem, we’re just going through validation right now.
The “three weeks” timeline is familiar to longtime Tesla followers. Over the years, Musk has often promised fixes or software updates in “two weeks,” and they often take longer than that.
Three weeks is a lot closer than the “next year” promise that we’ve heard so many times for full autonomy, but given its proximity to the oft-inaccurate two-week timeline, we’re not sure these vehicles will actually be ready in time for New Year’s Eve celebrations.
Nevertheless, it’s a closer timeline than Musk has usually given, so there may be truly driverless Teslas operating sometime soon™.
Also, reading the statement more closely, it sounds like they won’t necessarily remove safety operators from every vehicle, but some vehicles. This could be similar to the singular driverless vehicle delivery that Tesla did – a PR stunt, rather than a full rollout. We’ll have to wait and see.
Tesla’s main competitor in the robotaxi space is Waymo, which has been operating truly driverless vehicles for several years now. The company has also been operating autonomous, driverless vehicles in Austin since March of this year.
Musk went on to talk about future improvements to Tesla’s software and hardware in his answer.
The company is currently on hardware previously deemed HW4, though to cash in on the AI stock market bubble, it now refers to that system as AI4. He said that AI5 will be 10-40 times better than HW4 and go into volume production in 2027, with AI6 coming soon after.
Musk’s mention of future hardware improvements neglects one important aspect of these improvements, which is that for every hardware improvement Tesla puts into its fleet, the more vehicles it will have to upgrade later.
Tesla long promised that its vehicles had all the hardware for self-driving, which means it’s going to have to upgrade a lot of cars – and there are court cases aroundtheworld seeking to force the company to do so. Together, these lawsuits and other potential challenges could mean billions of dollars in liabilities for the company.
Musk then closed his statements by claiming that “our” goal is to “to understand the meaning of life and… propagate consciousness out to the stars,” which is not Tesla’s goal. Tesla’s actual goal is to accelerate the transition to sustainable energy. He may have been referring to xAI’s goal, but given the answer was about Tesla, perhaps he was confused (or perhaps he doesn’t care about Tesla anymore, and isn’t a good CEO for the company as a result…)
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Volkswagen is offering $7,500 in Retail Customer Bonus cash this month – up from the $2,500 the company offered its Black Friday customers – that, along with an additional $2,500 unadvertised dealer cash incentive that CarsDirect is reporting absolutely, definitely exists, adds up to a stout $10,000 total discount on the all-electric VW ID.Buzz … and that’s before you start haggling with your dealer over the MSRP.
It’s a lot
Photo: Volkswagen of America.
As much as I like the the Volkswagen ID.Buzz, its starting MSRP around $61,545 (incl. destination) puts it at nearly twice what you’d probably expect a minivan to cost if the last time you shopped for one was at a Dodge store. Still, that hefty price tag is some $20,000 higher than the baseline Toyota Sienna hybrid or Honda Odyssey.
That 50% higher price is a lot to swallow even if you do buy into the nostalgia. Still, the ID.Buzz is capable enough, and with ~230 miles of range and 282 hp on offer from its battery/electric motor combo – plus Supercharger access – it’s at least able to keep up with the minivan competition.
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So, while that $10,000 discount isn’t going to turn the ID.Buzz into the second coming of the affordable, family-hauling Caravan, it does bring VW’s electric people-mover a little closer to earth. In fact, with a $50K price tag, it’s right in line with the average transaction price of a new vehicles. So, if nothing else, that reduced price could finally gives electric minivan buyers something to buzz about (I tried so hard to work that in, you guys).
If you’ve been shopping for a family-hauler and dig the retro vibe over something like the (excellent) Kia EV9, click through the link below and set up a test drive at your local VW dealer.
SOURCE: CarsDirect; images via VW.
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Peterbilt has jumped into the MD truck ring with the launch three new medium-duty electric trucks that deliver zero-emissions power, ultra-fast 350 kW charging, and proven, versatile platforms for delivery, utility service, and vocational upfitting.
The new Peterbilt 536EV, 537EV, and 548EV medium-duty trucks slot into the same versatile medium-duty segments the company’s fleets already know, but swap diesel power for latest PACCAR ePowertrain, with up to 605 hp and 1,850 lb-ft of torque available at 0 rpm. That big motor draws power from a variety of LFP battery packs and be fitted with ePTO options rated for either 25 kW (two-battery option) or 150 kW (three-battery option), making them suitable for that can be sized for daily delivery routes, urban utility work, and municipal fleets looking to cut both emissions and maintenance costs.
What’s more, the new Peterbilt’s flexible architecture allows for integration with existing PACCAR suspension bits to make 4×2 and 6×4 configurations, and any wheelbase of 163 inches or longer, and up to 82,000 lbs. gross combined weight ratings possible.
“[The new trucks are] optimized for the demands of the medium duty segment, the next generation of Peterbilt electric vehicles deliver excellent efficiency, rapid charging and versatile configurations elevating customer productivity across a wide range of applications,” said Erik Johnson, Peterbilt assistant general manager, Sales & Marketing.
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In addition to all those goodies, the PACCAR EV tech continues to be top-notch, with the previously-mentioned 350 kW charging, regenerative braking, and industry-leading ergonomics.
Peterbilt’s new MDEVs ship with a blue accented crown and grille for a distinctive exterior look, as well as EV-exclusive panels on the side of the hood. The interior design features laser-etched trim panels on the EV-exclusive Magneto Gray interior, just in case the driver in the quiet, smooth, and stink-free cabin forgets they’re in an electric truck.
Electrek’s Take
Peterbilt 536EV; via PACCAR.
Ignore the headlines. The death of the commercial EV market simply hasn’t happened, and won’t happen any time soon.
If you believe the engineers and analysts at MAN Trucks and Orange EV (and, you should), an EV like this can pay for itself in reduced fuel and maintenance costs even without incentives, then you should already know what I’m about to say: the future of trucking is 100% electric.
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