People learn about Baidu’s artificial intelligence chatbot service Ernie Bot during the 2nd Global Digital Trade Expo at Hangzhou International Expo Center on November 23, 2023 in Hangzhou, Zhejiang Province of China.
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Nvidia’s rocket-ship ride in the stock market underscores the extent to which chip quality and availability will dictate the winners in the generative AI era. But there’s another aspect to measuring early leads in the space. In China, which is angling to produce its own chips or get more from Nvidia, no dominant gen AI contender to OpenAI has emerged yet among dozens of Chinese tech titans and startups.
Late to the game, China is seeking to catch the lead of OpenAI in a wider U.S. AI market shaped by tech titansMicrosoft, Alphabet’s Google and Amazon, and well-financed startups including Anthropic, which this week received a $2.7 billion infusion of cash from Amazon.
In the fast-moving field, the gap between the U.S. and its tech rival China is seen as wide. “The leading Chinese companies are benchmarking against ChatGPT, which indicates how far behind they are,” said Paul Triolo, senior vice president for China and technology policy lead at Dentons Global Advisors in Washington, D.C.
“Not too many companies can support their own large language model. It takes a lot of capital. Silicon Valley is definitely well ahead of the game,” said Jenny Xiao, a partner at AI VC firm Leonis Capital in San Francisco.
The U.S. remains the biggest investment market. Last year, funding of gen AI upstarts accounted for nearly half of $42.5 billion invested globally in artificial intelligence companies, according to CB Insights. In the U.S., VCs and corporate investors drove AI investment to $31 billion across 1,151 deals, led by large outlays in OpenAI, Anthropic and Inflection. This compares with $2 billion in 68 deals in China, which marked a large drop from 2022’s $5.5 billion in 377 deals. The fall-off is partly attributable to restrictions on of U.S. venture investment into China.
“China is at a big disadvantage in building the foundation models for Gen AI,” said Rui Ma, an AI investor and co-founder of investment syndicate and podcast TechBuzz China.
But where China lags in foundational models, which are dominated by OpenAI and Google’s Gemini, it’s closing the gap by using Meta’s open source, large language model Llama 1, and Triolo said the Chinese contenders, if behind, are improving on the U.S. model.
“Many of the China models are effectively forks of Llama, and the consensus is that these forks are one to two years behind the leading U.S companies OpenAI and its video-to-text model Sora,” Ma said.
China does have the tech talent to make a difference in the AI rivalry in the years ahead.
A new study by think tank Marco Polo, run by the Paulson Institute, shows that the U.S. is home to 60% of top AI institutions, and the U.S. remains by far the leading destination for elite AI talent at 57% of the total, compared with China at 12%. But the research finds that China leads the U.S. by a few other measures, including being ahead of the U.S. in producing top-tier AI researchers, based on undergraduate degrees, with China at 47% and the U.S. lagging with 18%. Additionally, among top-tier AI researchers working at U.S. institutions, 38% have China as their country of origin, compared with 37% from the U.S.
New Chinese gen AI market entries can also reach mass adoption quickly. Baidu’s ChatGPT competitor, Ernie Bot, released in August 2023, reached 100 million users by the end of the year. Samsung is planning to integrate Baidu’s Ernie AI into its new Galaxy S smartphones while in another high-profile development that speaks to U.S.-China relations, Apple is in talks with Baidu about supplying the iPhone 16 with the Chinese company’s gen AI technology.
Within its current slate of AI contenders, Baidu’s Ernie Bot models are considered among the most advanced, according to Leong.
Several other Chinese companies are forging ahead, funded by major players in its own technology market. Large cloud companies such as such as Baidu and Alibaba, social media players ByteDance and Tencent, and tech companies SenseTime, iFlyTek, Megvii and Horizon Robotics, as well as research institutes, are all aiding the effort.
Moonshot AI, funded by China’s e-commerce giant Alibaba and VC firm Hongshan (previously Sequoia China), is building large language models that can handle long content inputs. Meanwhile, former Google China president Kai-Fu Lee has developed an open source gen AI model, 01.AI, funded by Alibaba and his firm Sinovation Ventures.
While China has accelerated development of its homegrown chip industry and advanced AI, its AI development has been limited in part by U.S. restrictions on exporting high-end AI chips, a market cornered by Nvidia, as part of a new battleground for tech supremacy between the U.S. and China.
“Despite efforts to develop indigenous solutions, Chinese AI developers still largely rely on foreign hardware, particularly from U.S. companies, which is a vulnerability in the current geopolitical climate,” said Bernard Leong, founder and CEO of tech advisory Analyse Asia in Singapore.
The ongoing tensions between the U.S. and China over technology innovation and national security issues is leading to a split in gen AI development, following the pattern of other impactful technologies caught up in superpower tech arms races. Given regulations and bans over sensitive, cutting-edge technologies, the likely outcome is two parallel ecosystems for gen AI, one in the U.S. and one in China. ChatGPT is blocked in China while Baidu’s Ernie Bot can only be accessed in the U.S. with a mainland Chinese cell phone number. “U.S. companies can’t go into China and Chinese companies can’t go into the U.S.,” Xiao said.
U.S. Secretary of Commerce Gina Raimondo has stated that a goal of U.S. curbs on AI chip exports is to prevent China from acquiring or producing advanced chips. As mainland China focuses on homegrown capabilities, Chinese companies SMIC or Huawei could be an alternative to Nvidia. But the future for alternates is likely uncertain if export controls cut off these companies from the most advanced designs for manufacturing. Triolo noted that Huawei recently developed a series of AI chips as a rival to Nvidia.
China is getting ahead in applying AI to certain categories, such as computer vision. “The chip shortage is very important for training foundational models where you need certain chips, but for applications, you don’t need that,” Ma said.
The “real killer app” for gen AI, according to Triolo, will be in companies that are willing to pay money to harness the technology as part of their business operations. Alibaba is focusing on integrating AI into its e-commerce ecosystem. Huawei, while competing more successfully against Apple’s iPhone in the consumer market in the past year, also has broader ambitions, developing AI for specific industries including mining, using its in-house hardware, Leong said.
Boston Consulting Group research suggests it may be a while before this wider gen AI market ramps outside of tech. Sixty percent of 1,400 executives surveyed are waiting to see how gen AI regulations develop, while only 6 percent of companies have trained their employees on gen AI tools.
AI and tech issues are front and center for China’s leadership, with the country’s release of guardrails on AI in 2023 after ChatGPT’s breakthrough, and then modifications of some measures.
The open source gen AI technology many Chinese developers use can encourage collaboration among globally and lead to shared insights as AI advances, but Leong said open source also leads to issues related to ensuring quality and security of the models, as well as managing bias and potential misuse of AI.
“China wants to make sure content is not spewing out. They also want their companies to lead and are willing to reign in draconian measures,” Triolo said.
Ethical and social concerns hinder gen AI advances in China as well as other regions, including the U.S., as see in the battle for control over OpenAI’s mission. Within China, there is another factor that could slow AI acceleration, according to Leong: maintaining control of gen AI applications, especially in areas sensitive to state interests.
Global investors are bracing for a battle between long and short-term wins amid a dramatic sell-off in artificial intelligence-related stocks.
AI darling Nvidia buoyed an otherwise deflated market when it reported strong earnings after the bell on Wednesday, sending its own stock soaring and carrying related names alongside it. However, the rally quickly reversed on Thursday with Nvidia ultimately ending the trading session 3% lower.
While the U.S. chipmaker’s earnings initially appeared strong enough to quell concerns over an AI bubble, economic speculation put global investors back on the defensive as hopes dimmed of a December rate cut by the Federal Reserve. The U.K.’s hotly anticipated Autumn Budget is also expected next week.
“I think the market is quite confused as to why this is happening,” Ozan Ozkural, founding managing partner at Tanto Capital Partners, told CNBC’s “Squawk Box Europe” on Friday.
Market moves this year have been driven by sentiment, momentum, AI and innovation, “with sprinkles of geopolitical risk,” he said. “Although we haven’t got a specific reason why there has been a sell-off on the back of the strong Nvidia results, to me it’s not that surprising, because [it’s] only a matter of time until sentiment just shifts, because we just live in a much more uncertain world.”
There also doesn’t need to be a catalyst, he added. However, the “most dangerous place we can be at” is a sustained sell-off, even if it’s a slow burn, Ozkural warning, noting that this could lead portfolio managers to lock in gains and cash out.
Asset managers are driven by compensation cycles which is why they don’t like to hedge their bets, he said. “No one cares about the long term. Everyone is dead in the long term. No one even cares about the medium term. It’s all about short term cycles,” he said.
“But the reality is, it’s year end, people need to get paid their bonuses, and it doesn’t pay to be bearish unless we see a sustained level of a sell-off.”
Investors with cash in an AI ETF or index may be cashing out due to a mixture of year-end risk management and continued concerns over an AI bubble. Those who may have made a lot of money on the back of the AI trade will probably want to step back and sell, said Stephen Yiu, investment chief at Blue Whale Growth Fund, which has a position in Nvidia.
However, for Julius Bendikas, European head of macro and dynamic asset allocation at Mercer, “it’s the battle between the solid fundamentals and questions being raised about multiples and maybe positioning getting a touch stretched.”
Despite solid fundamentals and earnings exceeding expectations, Bendikas told CNBC’s “Europe Early Edition” that investors are now starting to question whether the price is right and have started to sell as a result.
On technicals, “arguably, a lot of people have rushed into equities,” he said, noting that a recent Bank of America survey found cash levels are low. “So people have been quite long equities, maybe too long equities. And I think what we’ve seen yesterday is the valuations and technicals [narrative] overpowering the fundamental narrative, which came in quite strong post the Nvidia earnings overnight, a day ago.”
Nick Patience, AI lead at The Futurum Group, added: “Investors are also concerned about the circular nature of deals between Nvidia and other ecosystem players, questioning whether massive capital expenditures from hyperscaler customers represent sustainable demand.”
Fed rate cut
The moves may also reflect economic pressure. “The [Thursday] afternoon decline coincided with some negative macroeconomic signals in the form of the delayed September jobs report released in the morning that showed the US economy added 119,000 jobs – more than the expected 50,000 – but the unemployment rate rose to 4.4%, the highest level since October 2021,” Patience said.
The last bit of big news the market is expecting is the Fed’s December rate decision; investors had anticipated a cut but are now split on whether it will happen.
The central bank opting to not cut rates is “not an issue,” Yiu said, but could lead investors who had expected it to cut, to pause and recalibrate ahead of next year.
“I think people just want to probably lock in and derisk, and take a break from [President Donald] Trump as well, who knows what Trump is going to next,” he added.
Amid the hype, it’s difficult to work out the AI winners and losers, Yiu said, but he expects a differentiation between the companies investing in AI and those on the receiving end of that cash, which he called AI infrastructure. As the market shakes out, Yiu is placing his bets on the latter.
The entrance to a Foxconn construction site in Mount Pleasant, Wisconsin, in May 2019.
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Foxconn showcased its push into artificial intelligence at its annual ‘Hon Hai Tech Day’ in Taiwan on Friday, underscoring the world’s largest contract manufacturer’s efforts to evolve beyond its role as the biggest assembler of Apple’s iPhones.
The company, officially known as Hon Hai Precision Industry Co., has also become a major player in the AI hardware space, with its event taking place the same day it announced a partnership with ChatGPT maker OpenAI.
OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, in a video statement streamed at the event, said that the two firms would “share insight into emerging hardware needs across the AI industry.”
He added that Foxconn would use those insights to design and prototype new equipment that could be manufactured in the United States.
The partnership will center on Foxconn’s server business, which earlier this year became its largest revenue driver and helped drive record profit in the September quarter.
Describing Foxconn and OpenAI as “natural partners,” Kirk Yang, an adjunct finance professor at National Taiwan University, told CNBC, “OpenAI needs strong partners, not only to manufacture products, but to quickly introduce all the products to the market.”
“So I think it makes perfect sense for OpenAI to work with Foxconn. And Foxconn is probably the strongest partner that open AI can find,” he added.
Foxconn also announced a partnership with Intrinsic, a unit of Alphabet to build so-called “artificial intelligence factories.”
The Taiwanese manufacturer highlighted deeper work with Nvidia as well, showcasing its compute trays for the chip designer’s cutting-edge Blackwell chips.
Speaking at the Friday event, Alexis Bjorlin, vice president and general manager of Nvidia’s DGX Cloud unit, said the partners would work on deploying advanced AI infrastructure much faster to meet customer demand.
Despite Nvidia’s results showing that demand for AI hardware remains strong, concerns persist in the market about a potential AI bubble and the sustainability of heavy AI spending.
Speaking to CNBC’s Emily Chan on the sidelines of Hon Hai Tech Day, Foxconn Chairman Young Liu expressed confidence that the company would be protected from a potential AI bubble.
“No matter what [AI] models or [AI] model players will win, they all need hardware, and no matter what GPU player will win, they all need system and component suppliers to support them,” he said.
The logo of Japanese company SoftBank Group is seen outside the company’s headquarters in Tokyo on January 22, 2025.
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A sector-wide pullback hit Asian chip stocks Friday, led by a steep decline in SoftBank, after Nvidia‘s sharp drop overnight defied its stronger-than-expected earnings and bullish outlook.
SoftBank plunged more than 10% in Tokyo. The Japanese tech conglomerate recently offloaded its Nvidia shares but still controls British semiconductor company Arm, which supplies Nvidia with chip architecture and designs.
SoftBank is also involved in a number of AI ventures that use Nvidia’s technology, including the $500 billion Stargate project for data centers in the U.S.
South Korea’s SK Hynix fell nearly 10%. The memory chip maker is Nvidia’s top supplier of high-bandwidth memory used in AI applications. Samsung Electronics, a rival that also supplies Nvidia with memory, fell over 5%.
Taiwan’s Hon Hai Precision Industry, also known as Foxconn, which manufactures server racks designed for AI workloads, dipped 4%.
The retreat in major Asian semiconductor giants comes after Nvidia fell over 3% in the U.S. on Thursday, despite beating Wall Street expectations in its third-quarter earnings the night before.
The company also provided stronger-than-expected fourth-quarter sales guidance, which analysts said could lift earnings expectations across the sector.
However, smaller chip players in Asia were not spared either.
In Tokyo, Renesas Electronics, a key Nvidia supplier, fell 2.3%. Tokyo Electron, which provides essential chipmaking equipment to foundries that manufacture Nvidia’s chips, was down 5.32%.
Another Japanese chip equipment maker, Lasertec, was down over 3.5%.