In this week’s The Reason Roundtable, editors Matt Welch, Katherine Mangu-Ward, Nick Gillespie, and Peter Suderman discuss Donald Trump’s horrible tariff proposal, reactions to the Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse in Baltimore, and the late Joe Lieberman.
02:05Trump vs. Biden on trade
19:39Reactions to the Baltimore bridge collapse
31:17Weekly Listener Question
39:22R.I.P. Joe Lieberman
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Mentioned in this podcast:
“Trump’s Tariff Would Cost the Typical American Household Roughly $1,500 Each Year,” by the Center for American Progress Action Fund
“The Post-Neoliberalism Moment,” by Daniel W. Drezner
“The Obscure Protectionist Law That Will Slow Clean-Up of the Baltimore Bridge Disaster,” by Eric Boehm
“The Immigrant Workers Who Died on the Baltimore Bridge Were Hardworking Heroes,” by Fiona Hartigan
“No Labels, With No Candidate, Says Yes to a 2024 Presidential Campaign,” by Matt Welch
“In Search of Joe Lieberman’s Conscience,” by Jacob Sullum
“Biden and Trump Try To Wish Away the Looming Entitlement Crisis,” by Jacob Sullum
“Friday A/V Club: Joe Lieberman Battles Digital Demons,”by Jesse Walker
“Goodbye, Globalization?” by Daniel W. Drezner
“Johan Norberg: Why We Need a Capitalist Manifesto,”by Nick Gillespie
“Sharply Fewer in U.S. View Foreign Trade as Opportunity,”by Mohamed Younis
“3 Things To Know About the ‘New NAFTA’ That Begins Today,” by Eric Boehm
“Free Trade Would Boost the Economy, But It’s Not on the Ballot,”by J.D. Tuccille
“Biden and Europe remove Trump’s steel and aluminum tariffs, but it’s not free trade,”byChad P. BownandKatheryn (Kadee) Russ
“Managing Trade’s History,”by John V.C. Nye
“Trump, Reagan, and Why Republicans Flip-Flopped on Free Trade,”by Todd Krainin
“The Obscure Protectionist Law That Will Slow Clean-up of the Baltimore Bridge Disaster,”by Eric Boehm
“The Immigrant Workers Who Died on the Baltimore Bridge Were Hardworking Heroes,”by Fiona Harrigan
“Fox News host slammed for linking Baltimore Key bridge disaster to immigration: ‘Reprehensible stupidity,'”by Martha McHardy
“Maria Bartiromo: Money honey who stirred Ramone’s hormones,” by David Teather
“Rick Scott’s Thirst for Urine Will Remain Unslaked,” by Jacob Sullum
David Simon on Francis Scott Key bridge collapse
“Reaping the Whirlwind,”by Glenn Garvin
“The Problem with Hurricane Sandy Relief,” by Joshua Swain, Jim Epstein, and Nick Gillespie
“Adios, Vinegar Joe,” by Tim Cavanaugh
“Are You an “Electronic Child Molester?”by Meredith Bragg and Nick Gillespie
“Get Yer Ya-Yas Out,” by Nick GillespieListener Question:
“The Movie ‘Miss Virginia’ Powerfully Dramatizes the Urgent Need for School Choice,” by Nick Gillespie
“Donald Trump Supports School Choice. Here’s Why You Should Too.” by Nick Gillespie
“Biden Expands Pardons for Low-Level Federal Marijuana Offenders,”by C.J. Ciaramella
“Biden Administration Endorses Legislation to End Crack Cocaine Sentencing Disparity,”by C.J. Ciaramella
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Four teams remain in the race for the Stanley Cup. The race for most valuable player of the NHL postseason is a bit more crowded.
Here’s the latest Conn Smythe Watch for the 2025 postseason. We asked over two dozen national writers and beat writers who are covering the conference finals for their top three MVP candidates after two rounds of play. Ballots were collected and tabulated before Game 1 of the Eastern Conference finals.
Keep in mind that in the NHL, the Conn Smythe is based on a player’s performance during the entire postseason, not only the championship round. The award is voted on by an 18-person panel of Professional Hockey Writers Association members.
The current MVP leader
For the second straight round, Rantanen leads the Conn Smythe Watch as he helped lead the Dallas Stars to their third straight conference finals. Through 13 postseason games, he leads all playoff scorers with 19 points, including a playoff-best nine goals.
Rantanen was the only player to appear on every ballot we surveyed from the writers. Only two voters had him anywhere but first place for the Conn Smythe — one national writer had him second, and a beat writer had Rantanen third on their ballot.
As Dallas coach Peter DeBoer put it: Rantanen is playing as if he’s “on a mission.” He was a one-man wrecking crew against his old teammates from Colorado, the team that traded him earlier this season rather than sign him to a contract extension. He did more damage against the Winnipeg Jets in the second round with a Game 1 hat trick on the road.
Rantanen cooled off a little bit later in the series, with one assist in the last three games of the series. But his accomplishments to that point made him the clear MVP in the eyes of our panelists. He’s the first player in NHL history with five three-point games through a team’s first 10 playoff games in a single postseason. He set another NHL record by either scoring or assisting on 13 consecutive goals by his team. At one point, Rantanen had factored in on 15 of 16 goals for Dallas.
One voter noted that the “crazy solo efforts he has had in a couple of games” makes him an obvious choice.
Or as another voter put it: “It’s almost hard to believe the dominance he’s displayed.”
One thing to consider about Rantanen: He has the narrative. The “revenge tour” against the Avalanche in the first round was part of a larger story about proving he’s worth his big new contract with Dallas and that he can thrive as an offensive star without Nathan MacKinnon and Cale Makar on his team.
“When you think about his journey this year, he’s been through a lot,” DeBoer said. “There’s been a lot written about him. There’s been a lot said about him. There’s been a lot of doubters out there.”
So far, Rantanen has silenced them.
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Kevin Weekes’ players to watch in ‘epic’ Oilers-Stars showdown
Kevin Weekes lays out what to expect from the Western Conference finals rematch between the Edmonton Oilers and the Dallas Stars.
The other favorites
This is where we need to reiterate that the ballot tabulation was done before Game 1 of the Eastern Conference finals.
Andersen was the clear second choice among voters before he faced the Panthers. He was voted second for playoff MVP on 47% of the ballots we surveyed.
Before Game 1, he had allowed only 12 goals in nine games for a .937 save percentage and a 1.36 goals-against average. “His stats are mind-blowing when you think about how good Washington’s offense should have been in that series,” one voter said.
After giving up five goals on 20 shots to Florida in Carolina’s Game 1 loss — not all of them his fault entirely — Andersen’s save percentage dropped to .919 while his goals-against average rose to 1.74.
It’s possible that Andersen and Florida goalie Sergei Bobrovsky will see their spots in this ranking flip during the series. But it was only one game, and Andersen’s numbers at home before that loss to the Panthers were quite good.
McDavid was also in the top three in the last round. In the 2024 postseason, the Edmonton star became only the second player in NHL history to win the Conn Smythe in a losing effort, as the Oilers fell in Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final to the Panthers. Now, he’s trying to become the fourth player ever — and the first player since Sidney Crosby (2016-17) — to win consecutive Conn Smythe trophies.
Through 11 games, McDavid has 17 points (three goals, 14 assists). His 1.55 points-per-game average leads all players still active in the postseason. Through 11 games last season, McDavid had 21 points. But that has been one of the things that defined this Oilers’ run to the conference finals: They haven’t needed McDavid and Leon Draisaitl to drag them there on their own. Perhaps that has been reflected in the voting.
For what it’s worth, McDavid is the favorite to win the Conn Smythe on ESPN BET, at +325, ahead of Rantanen (+350) as of Tuesday night.
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Jake Oettinger: McDavid will go down as the best player of all time
Stars goaltender Jake Oettinger joins “SportsCenter” to preview Dallas’ series against Connor McDavid and the Oilers.
Making their cases
These two players received the next highest number of votes outside the top three.
It was notable that one beat writer had Oettinger first overall on their ballot, with Rantanen third. That might be a little bit of recency bias: Rantanen did most of his damage at the end of the first round and early in the second, and Oettinger was a difference-maker in all four of the Stars’ wins against Winnipeg, including Game 7, when he stopped 22 of 23 shots. As dominant as Rantanen was in Game 7 against the Avalanche in the first round, Oettinger made 25 saves and was brilliant late in that elimination game to preserve the win.
Overall, Oettinger has a .919 save percentage and a 2.47 goals-against average in 13 games for Dallas. But he has some work to do: The Stars goalie appeared on only three ballots in total, with one first- and two second-place votes.
Draisaitl is right behind McDavid in scoring with five goals and 11 assists in 11 games for the Oilers. He made the top three on four ballots, with two second-place and two third-place votes.
In his favor are two overtime goals: in Game 4 against the Los Angeles Kings in the opening round to even their series, and then in Game 2 in Las Vegas to give the Oilers a 2-0 series lead. He also had the primary assist on Kasperi Kapanen‘s series-clinching goal in Game 5 against Vegas.
Those moments more than balance one of the lowest points of Draisaitl’s postseason, when Reilly Smith of the Golden Knights scored with 0.4 left in Game 3 on a shot that deflected off of Draisaitl’s stick.
One thing to remember with Draisaitl’s MVP case is the praise he’s receiving for his two-way game. As the Oilers have become one of the best defensive teams in the postseason, posting back-to-back shutouts to end the Golden Knights, Draisaitl could get a portion of the credit.
“You often think of those guys who are putting up a lot of points, they neglect the defensive responsibilities,” Edmonton coach Kris Knoblauch said before the conference finals. “Leon has never neglected his defensive responsibilities. In fact, if I was to show clips on how to backcheck and how to work, getting above the opposition, Leon would be the leading guy on all the clips that I can find, and he’s the one who does it the best.”
Some Panthers finally make the list! In fairness, that’s a tribute to the balance and depth that Florida has shown through two rounds. The team had 11 players with at least six points through their series win against the Leafs.
Bobrovsky didn’t have stellar numbers entering the conference final (.901 save percentage) thanks to four games in which he gave up four-plus goals. But Playoff Bob has emerged when he’s needed — like in the last four games of the Maple Leafs series and in Game 1 against Carolina, where he might have been the difference in that 5-2 win.
“I try to stay with one moment and not try not to think about the future or past,” he said after Game 1. “So it’s one moment, one save at a time. And that’s pretty much it.”
Marchand was tied for the team lead in points (12) after two rounds, and really made a statement in the MVP race with his Game 7 dagger against Toronto. He also had a critical Game 3 overtime winner after the Leafs took a 2-0 lead in the series.
Both Marchand and Bobrovsky showed up on two ballots. Bobrovsky earned one second-place vote.
Svechnikov was also on two ballots, both third-place votes. The Hurricanes winger was second in the postseason with eight goals after two rounds.
Slavin had two goals and two assists in 10 games, including the overtime winner in Game 1 against the Capitals. He has had an outstanding season, including a much-lauded performance in the 4 Nations Face-Off for Team USA. He also earned a ringing endorsement from Capitals coach Spencer Carbery after Carolina eliminated Washington. “How he’s not in the Norris Trophy conversation every single year, it doesn’t seem right,” the coach said. “He’s one heck of a player.”
Jones has been really strong for the Panthers, especially in their Game 7 win in Toronto. Through two rounds, Luostarinen was tied with his linemate Marchand for the team lead with 12 points, but now leads the team with 13 points after his Game 1 goal against Carolina — remarkably, his 12th point in eight road playoff games.
The NHL’s Western Conference finals matchup is set for 2025: The Dallas Stars and Edmonton Oilers are poised to square off to determine which club will represent the West in the Stanley Cup Final.
To help get you up to speed before the next round begins Wednesday on the networks of ESPN, we’re here with key intel from ESPN Research, wagering info from ESPN BET and more.
Paths to the conference finals:
Stars: Defeated Avalanche in seven, Jets in six Oilers: Defeated Kings in six, Golden Knights in five
Schedule:
Game 1: Oilers at Stars | May 21, 8 p.m. (ESPN/ESPN+) Game 2: Oilers at Stars | May 23, 8 p.m. (ESPN/ESPN+) Game 3: Stars at Oilers | May 25, 3 p.m. (ABC/ESPN+) Game 4: Stars at Oilers | May 27, 8 p.m. (ESPN/ESPN+) Game 5: Oilers at Stars | May 29, 8 p.m. (ESPN/ESPN+) Game 6: Stars at Oilers | May 31, 8 p.m. (ABC/ESPN+) Game 7: Oilers at Stars | June 2, 8 p.m. (ESPN/ESPN+)
The Oilers are the first Canadian team to make consecutive conference finals appearances since the Toronto Maple Leafs in 1993 and 1994. The only Canadian clubs to make consecutive appearances in the final four in the NHL’s expansion era (since 1967-68) are the Montreal Canadiens (three times), Oilers (three times) and Maple Leafs.
Edmonton advanced to the conference finals for a second straight year and for the third time in the past four postseasons, dating to 2022. The Oilers reached the conference finals in consecutive postseasons for the first time in 33 years, and fourth time in franchise history (1990-92; 1983-85; 1987-1988).
This is the 12th time in franchise history that the Oilers have reached the conference finals. The Oilers tied the Chicago Blackhawks for most final four appearances since Edmonton’s inaugural season in 1979-80.
McDavid and Zach Hyman each have six career goals in the conference finals, which is tied with Dave Hunter for sixth in franchise history. Kurri (28), Messier (23), Anderson (21), Gretzky (14) and Simpson (11) are ahead of them.
Kris Knoblauch became the first head coach in 18 years — and seventh during the NHL’s expansion era (since 1967-68) — to reach the final four in each of his first two seasons. He joined Bob Hartley (four from 1999 to 2002), Scotty Bowman (three from 1968 to ’70), Randy Carlyle (2006, 2007), Lindy Ruff (1998, 1999), Mike Milbury (1990, 1991) and Jean Perron (1986, 1987).
Stars
The Stars advance to their third straight conference finals. They join the Tampa Bay Lightning in 2020-22, Chicago Blackhawks in 2013-15, Los Angeles Kings in 2012-14 and Detroit Red Wings from 2007-09 as the only teams in the salary cap era (since 2005-06) to make it to three straight conference finals.
Stars coach Peter DeBoer now is going to his eighth conference finals/Stanley Cup semifinals in his coaching career, which breaks a tie with Fred Shero for third among coaches in the expansion era (since 1967-68) and trailing only Scotty Bowman (16) and Al Arbour (11).
DeBoer is the fourth coach in the expansion era to reach the conference finals/Stanley Cup semifinals in each of their first three seasons with a team, joining Darryl Sutter with the Kings (2012-14), Bob Hartley with the Colorado Avalanche (1999-2001) and Scotty Bowman with the St. Louis Blues (1968-70).
The Stars won two of three games against the Oilers in the regular season, outscoring them 12-9. Jason Robertson (four goals, two assists) and Roope Hintz (goal, five assists) led the Stars with six points in those games.
Mikko Rantanen begins this series as the playoff leader in goals (nine) and points (19) through 13 games. That’s the most goals in a single postseason in his career, and he’s on pace to shatter his single-playoff points high of 25, set in the Avalanche’s 20-game run to the Cup in 2022.
BOSTON — Red Sox right-hander Walker Buehler, activated earlier in the day from the 15-day injured list, was ejected from his Tuesday start against the New York Mets in the third inning for arguing balls and strikes.
After two balls to open an at-bat by Juan Soto, Francisco Lindor stole second. Following Lindor’s slide, Buehler approached plate umpire Mike Estabrook while yelling and pointing. Buehler was quickly ejected, and moments later, Boston manager Alex Cora also was tossed.
It was the second consecutive game that the Red Sox played without Cora. On Monday, he missed the series opener to attend his daughter’s graduation from Boston College. Cora was replaced both nights by bench coach Ramon Vazquez.
Cora shouted in Estabrook’s face for a while, and first-base umpire Laz Diaz eventually stepped in to keep the two apart. Cora made contact with Diaz while continuing to verbally let loose on Estabrook. The manager then finally made his way to the clubhouse to cheers from Boston fans.
“It was weird; they were going back and forth,” Cora said of the debate between Buehler and Estabrook. “I don’t know what the exchange was, but I’ve been at this for a few years, and I was just begging, ‘Just give me a break. I’ll go out and you can throw me out, and we can keep the pitcher in the game.’ But I guess he had enough. I don’t know why.”
Brennan Bernardino replaced Buehler and inherited the count on Soto. Bernardino proceeded to walk Soto on four pitches in a scoreless game. But the bullpen held up the rest of the way, and Vazquez steered the Red Sox to a 2-0 victory.
“Everybody saw what happened. That’s baseball; we just had to stick to the plan,” Red Sox catcher Carlos Narvaez said on the postgame show on NESN.
Buehler had not pitched for the Red Sox since April 26 because of right shoulder issues. After that, he was scratched from his next start, and ensuing tests revealed he had bursitis in the shoulder. The 30-year-old veteran pitched a three-inning simulated game Thursday and indicated he fared well and was ready to return.
“I’m not going to talk about what he did or didn’t do. I don’t think it’s my place,” Buehler said of Estabrook. “For me, it kind of spiraled a little bit, and I said some things that he thought I shouldn’t have said and whatnot. At the end of the day, putting our team in a position like that is the only thing I really regret about that situation.”
Although his outing was short, Buehler has now started seven games during his first season with the Red Sox. He entered Tuesday’s game at 4-1 with a 4.28 ERA and 29 strikeouts against nine walks in 33⅔ innings.
“The pitch was in the strike zone,” Narvaez said of the ball call that triggered Buehler’s response in the third. “He was fighting with the guy behind the plate. He was saying, ‘Hey, that was in the middle.’ And the guy was saying, ‘No.’ And it was back and forth. Buehler is an emotional guy, he’s a competitor. It was just the emotions of the game.”
Diaz, the crew chief, told a pool reporter after the game that Buehler was tossed because he stepped off the mound toward Estabrook to argue a call.
“He can say stuff from the mound. But once he comes off the mound, he’s leaving his position to argue balls and strikes,” Diaz said. “Once anybody leaves their position to argue balls and strikes, that’s an immediate ejection.”
In the end, the Red Sox won for the second time in as many nights under Vazquez’s tutelage. And they did so with six relievers combining to complete the shutout.
Prior to Tuesday’s contest, Boston optioned right-hander Nick Burdi to Triple-A Worcester in a corresponding move to make room for Buehler. Burdi, 32, made two appearances and pitched 2⅓ scoreless innings for the Red Sox.
A member of the Los Angeles Dodgers organization until signing with Boston as a free agent in December, Buehler has undergone two Tommy John surgeries during his career. The latter procedure, in 2022, caused him to sit out the 2023 season and make his 2024 debut that May.
Buehler last made it through a full season without issue in 2021, when he registered a career-high 33 starts to lead the major leagues that season. He went 16-4 with a 2.47 ERA in 2021 and was selected to the All-Star Game for a second time.
The Dodgers selected Buehler with the 24th pick of the 2015 MLB draft.
Information from Field Level Media and the Associated Press was used in this report.