Post Office employees “implicated” in the Horizon scandal may “still be operating at the heart” of the business, the inquiry into it has heard.
Chief executive Nick Read was on Thursday questioned about issues around staff who played a part in wrongful prosecutions and investigations of sub postmasters before 2015.
Jason Beer KC asked whether, during a meeting in January with the then Post Office minister Kevin Hollinrake, the government was “green lighting” action against employees.
Nick Read replied that it “does sound like it” but admitted the Post Office has “dragged our feet” and not been “robust” in acting.
Addressing Mr Read, Mr Beer then said: “The issue is the potential for individuals who still may be operating at the heart of Post Office who are implicated in events in the past, isn’t it?”
Mr Read replied: “That is the case and, as I’ve been very clear, where we get formal allegations we will act. Pre-emptively we have struggled to move people on from the organisation.”
Hundreds of sub postmasters were wrongfully convicted due to faulty Horizon computer software used by the Post Office between 1999 and 2015.
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In one of his witness statements, Mr Read also says the Post Office kept investigators employed because they have “human rights”.
He writes he would have “preferred” that more “decisive action” had been taken, and he had aired those views to the board.
He describes a “collective decision” not to “simply dismiss anyone who was, for instance, an investigator at the time but against whom there was no direct evidence of wrongdoing, rather to transfer them to other departments”.
He asserts that unless wrongdoing can be proven, the Post Office “cannot simply remove existing staff because they were in post when the miscarriages of justice were taking place”.
“Those individuals of course have employment and indeed human rights themselves,” he says.
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Outgoing Post Office boss ‘doesn’t need to clear his name’
Three people under investigation
On Wednesday, it emerged three individuals are currently under investigation by the Post Office and outside agencies over their conduct around the Horizon scandal.
Allegations against the individuals had emerged in restorative justice hearings with victims.
The inquiry also heard details about the new contracts in place for sub postmasters that mention the Post Office Investigation Division (POID).
Mr Beer questioned how appropriate the contract currently is in telling sub postmasters the POID has investigatory powers including “an evidential interview process under caution”.
Mr Read admitted the wording was “heavy handed” and agreed it needed “addressing, not just rewording”.
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He also told the inquiry it was “astonishing” the Post Office was involved in the administration of compensation schemes.
He said the “corporate view” was that the Post Office should not have anything to do with them.
When asked why that view was not communicated to the inquiry, Mr Read responded: “It’s a good question. I’m unsure why we didn’t make that very explicit… clearly we should have done.”
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Image: Liverpool’s Ryan Gravenberch and Cody Gakpo (right) arrive at the funeral of Diogo Jota and Andre Silva. Pic: PA
Jota, 28, leaves behind his wife of only 11 days, Rute Cardoso, and three young children.
His younger brother, 25, was an attacking midfielder for Penafiel in the second tier of Portuguese football.
Liverpool manager Arne Slot, captain Virgil Van Dijk and teammates including Andy Robertson, Conor Bradley, Ryan Gravenberch, Cody Gakpo, Curtis Jones, Darwin Nunez and Joe Gomez were seen at the service.
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Former teammates Jordan Henderson, James Milner and Fabinho were also there.
Van Dijk carried a red wreath with Jota’s number 20, while Robertson had a wreath featuring number 30, Silva’s number at Penafiel.
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Image: Liverpool’s captain Virgil van Dijk and Liverpool’s player Andrew Robertson. Pic: Reuters
Some of Jota’s teammates in the Portuguese national side also attended, including Bruno Fernandes, of Manchester United, Ruben Dias and Bernardo Silva, of Manchester City, Joao Felix and Renato Veiga, of Chelsea, Nelson Semedo, from Wolves, Joao Moutinho and Rui Patricio.
Ruben Neves was one of the pallbearers after flying in from Florida where he played for Al Hilal in the Club World Cup quarter-final on Friday night.
‘More than a friend’
In a post published on Instagram before the service, he told Jota he had been “more than a friend, we’re family, and we won’t stop being that way just because you’ve decided to sign a contract a little further away from us!”
Jota’s fellow Liverpool midfielder, Alexis Mac Allister, said on Instagram: “I can’t believe it. I’ll always remember your smiles, your anger, your intelligence, your camaraderie, and everything that made you a person. It hurts so much; we’ll miss you. Rest in peace, dear Diogo.”
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Porto FC president Andre Villas-Boas and Portugal national team manager Roberto Martinez were also in attendance.
‘With us forever’
Speaking after the ceremony, Martinez said the period since their deaths had been “really, really sad days, as you can imagine, but today we showed we are a large, close family.
“Their spirit will be with us forever.”
The service was private, but the words spoken by the Bishop of Porto, Manuel Linda, were broadcast to those standing outside the church.
He told Jota’s children, who were not at the service, that he was praying for them specifically, as well as their mother and grandparents.
“There are no words, but there are feelings,” he said, adding: “We also suffer a lot and we are with you emotionally.”
The brothers died after a Lamborghini they were travelling in burst into flames following a suspected tyre blowout in the early hours of Thursday morning.
No other vehicles are said to have been involved in the incident.
Liverpool have delayed the return of their players for pre-season following Jota’s death and players past and present paid tribute to him and his brother on social media.
Rachel Reeves has hinted that taxes are likely to be raised this autumn after a major U-turn on the government’s controversial welfare bill.
Sir Keir Starmer’s Universal Credit and Personal Independent Payment Bill passed through the House of Commons on Tuesday after multiple concessions and threats of a major rebellion.
MPs ended up voting for only one part of the plan: a cut to universal credit (UC) sickness benefits for new claimants from £97 a week to £50 from 2026/7.
Initially aimed at saving £5.5bn, it now leaves the government with an estimated £5.5bn black hole – close to breaching Ms Reeves’s fiscal rules set out last year.
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Rachel Reeves’s fiscal dilemma
In an interview with The Guardian, the chancellor did not rule out tax rises later in the year, saying there were “costs” to watering down the welfare bill.
“I’m not going to [rule out tax rises], because it would be irresponsible for a chancellor to do that,” Ms Reeves told the outlet.
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“We took the decisions last year to draw a line under unfunded commitments and economic mismanagement.
“So we’ll never have to do something like that again. But there are costs to what happened.”
Meanwhile, The Times reported that, ahead of the Commons vote on the welfare bill, Ms Reeves told cabinet ministers the decision to offer concessions would mean taxes would have to be raised.
The outlet reported that the chancellor said the tax rises would be smaller than those announced in the 2024 budget, but that she is expected to have to raise tens of billions more.
Sir Keir did not explicitly say that she would, and Ms Badenoch interjected to say: “How awful for the chancellor that he couldn’t confirm that she would stay in place.”
In her first comments after the incident, Ms Reeves said she was having a “tough day” before adding: “People saw I was upset, but that was yesterday.
“Today’s a new day and I’m just cracking on with the job.”
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“In PMQs, it is bang, bang, bang,” he said. “That’s what it was yesterday.
“And therefore, I was probably the last to appreciate anything else going on in the chamber, and that’s just a straightforward human explanation, common sense explanation.”
The family and friends of Diogo Jota and his brother Andre Silva have been joined by Liverpool stars past and present and other Portuguese players at the pair’s funeral near Porto.
Pictures below show the funeral at the Igreja Matriz de Gondomar church in the town of Gondomar near Porto. Click here for our liveblog coverage of the day’s events.
Image: Diogo Jota’s wife Rute Cardoso arrives for the funeral of him and his brother Andre Silva. Pic: Reuters
Image: Liverpool players Virgil van Dijk and Andrew Robertson arrive for the funeral. Pic: Reuters
Image: Van Dijk carried a wreath with Jota’s number 20 while Andrew Robertson’s had a 30 for Andre Silva. Pic: Reuters
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Image: Portugal player Ruben Neves arrives at the funeral. Pic: PA
Image: Liverpool’s Joe Gomez and manager Arne Slot arrive at the funeral of Diogo Jota and Andre Silva. Pic; PA
Image: Liverpool’s Ryan Gravenberch and Cody Gakpo (right) arrive at the funeral of Diogo Jota and Andre Silva
Image: Manchester City and Portugal player Bernardo Silva arrives at the funeral. Pic: AP
Image: The coffins are carried to the church. Pic: PA
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Miguell Rocha played with Jota for around ten years with Gondomar Sport Clube in Portugal.
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Image: Pallbearers carry the coffins of Diogo Jota and his brother Andre Silva
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The former captain was seen wiping away tears as he read messages and laid his tribute down.
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Image: A board with a picture of Diogo Jota outside Anfield Stadium. Pic: PA
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