I just came back from driving about 200 miles (350 km) using Tesla’s (Supervised) Full Self-Driving, and the system is getting better, but it’s also getting more dangerous as it gets better.
The risk of complacency is scary.
Last weekend, I went on a road trip that covered about 200 miles from Shawinigan to Quebec City and back, and I used Tesla’s (Supervised) Full Self-Driving (FSD), v12.5.4.1 to be precise, on almost the entire trip.
Here’s the good and the bad, and the fact that the former is melting into the latter.
The Good
The system is increasingly starting to feel more natural. The way it handles merging, lane changes, and intersections feels less robotic and more like a human driver.
The new camera-based driver monitoring system is a massive upgrade from the steering wheel torque sensor that Tesla has used for years. I only had one issue with it where it kept giving me alerts to pay attention to the road even though I was doing just that, and it eventually shut FSD down for the drive because of it.
But this happened only once in the few weeks since I’ve used the latest update.
For the first time, I can get good chunks of city driving without any intervention or disengagement. It’s still far from perfect, but there’s a notable improvement.
It stopped to let pedestrians cross the street, it handled roundabouts fairly well, and it drives at more natural speeds on country roads (most of the time).
The system is getting good to the point that it can induce some dangerous complacency. More on that later.
As I have been saying for years, if Tesla was developing this technology in a vacuum and not selling it to the public as “about to become unsupervised self-driving”, most people would be impressed by it.
The Bad
Over those ~200 miles, I had five disengagements, including a few that were getting truly dangerous. It was seemingly about to run a red light once and a stop another time.
I say seemingly because it is getting hard to tell sometimes due to FSD often approaching intersections with stops and red traffic lights more aggressively.
It used to drive closer to how I’ve been driving my EVs forever, which consists of slowly decelerating using regenerative braking when approaching a stop. But this latest FSD update often maintains a higher speed, getting into those intersections and brakes more aggressively, often using mechanical brakes.
This is a strange behavior that I don’t like, but I started at least getting the feeling of it, which makes me somewhat confident that FSD would blow that red light and stop sign on those two occasions.
Another disengagement appeared to be due to sun glare in the front cameras. I am getting more of that this time of year as I drive more often during the sunsets, which happen earlier in the day.
It appears to be a real problem with Tesla’s current FSD configuration.
On top of the disengagement, I had an incalculable number of interventions. Interventions are when the driver has to input a command, but it’s not enough to disengage FSD. That’s mainly due to the fact that I keep having to activate my turn signal to tell the system to go back into the right lane after passing.
FSD only goes back into the right lane after passing if there’s a car coming close behind you in the left lane.
I’ve shared this finding on X, and I was disappointed by the response I got. I suspected that this could be due to American drivers being an important part of the training data, and no offense as this is an issue everywhere, but American drivers tend not to respect the guidelines (and law in some places) of the left lane being only for passing on average.
There's also another thing that frustrates me so much. The car needs to go back into the right lane after passing.
You can see that this model is trained mainly on American drivers (no offense, it's something that happens everywhere, but it is commonly a more accepted practice…
I feel like this could be an easy fix or at the very least, an option to add to the system for those who want to be good drivers even when FSD is active.
I also had an intervention where I had to press the accelerator pedal to tell FSD to turn left on a flashing green light, which it was hesitating to do as I was holding up traffic behind me.
Electrek’s Take
The scariest part for me is that FSD is getting good. If I take someone with no experience with FSD and take them on a short 10-15 mile drive, there’s a good chance I get no intervention, and they come out really impressed.
It is the same with a regular Tesla driver who consistently gets good FSD experiences.
This can build complacency with the drivers and result in paying less attention.
Fortunately, the new driver monitoring system can greatly help with that since it tracks driver attention, unlike Tesla’s previous system. However, it only takes a second of not paying attention to get into an accident, and the system allows you that second of inattention.
Furthermore, the system is getting so good at handling intersections that even if you are paying attention, you might end up blowing through a red light or stop sign, as I have mentioned above. You might feel confident that FSD is going to stop, but with its more aggressive approach to the intersection, you let it go even though it doesn’t start braking as soon as you would like it to, and then before you know it, it doesn’t brake at all.
There’s a four-way stop near my place on the south shore of Montreal that I’ve driven through many times with FSD without issue and yet, FSD v12.5.4 was seemingly about to blow right past it the other day.
Again, it’s possible that it was just braking late, but it was way too late for me to feel comfortable.
Also, while it is getting better, and better at a more noticeable pace lately, the crowdsource data, which is the only data available as Tesla refuses to release any, points to FSD being still years away from being capable of unsupervised self-driving:
Tesla would need about a 1,000x improvement in miles between disengagement.
In fact, the crowdsource data shows a regression on that front between v12.3 and v12.5.
I fear that Elon Musk’s attitude and repeated claim that FSD is incredible, combined with the fact that it actually getting better and his minions are raving about it, could lead to dangerous complacency.
Let’s be honest. Accidents with FSD are inevitable, but I think Tesla could do more to reduce the risk – mainly by being more realistic about what it is accomplishing here.
It is developing a really impressive vision-based ADAS system, but it is nowhere near on the verge of becoming unsupervised self-driving.
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More than $14 billion in US renewable and EV investments and 10,000 new jobs have been scrapped or put on hold since January, according to a new analysis from E2 and the Clean Economy Tracker. The reason: growing fears that the Republican-majority Congress will pull the plug on federal clean energy tax credits.
In April alone, companies backed out of $4.5 billion in battery, EV, and wind projects right before the House passed a sweeping tax and spending bill that would gut the federal tax incentives fueling the clean energy boom. E2 also found another $1.5 billion in previously unreported project cancellations from earlier in the year.
Now, with the Senate preparing to take up the so-called “One Big Beautiful Bill Act,” E2 says over 10,000 clean energy jobs have already vanished.
“If the tax plan passed by the House last week becomes law, expect to see construction and investments stopping in states across the country as more projects and jobs are cancelled,” said Michael Timberlake, E2’s communications director. “Businesses are now counting on Congress to come to its senses and stop this costly attack on an industry that is essential to meeting America’s growing energy demand and that’s driving unprecedented economic growth in every part of the country.”
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Ironically, it’s Republican-led congressional districts – the biggest beneficiaries of the Biden administration’s clean energy tax credits passed in 2022 – that are feeling the most pain. So far, more than $12 billion in investments and over 13,000 jobs have been canceled in GOP districts.
Through April, 61% of all clean energy projects, 72% of jobs, and 82% of investments have been in Republican districts.
Despite the rising number of cancellations, some companies are still forging ahead. In April, businesses announced nearly $500 million in new clean energy investments across six states. That includes a $400 million expansion by Corning in Michigan to make solar wafers, which is expected to create at least 400 jobs, and a $9.3 million investment from a Canadian solar equipment company in North Carolina.
If completed, the seven projects announced last month could create nearly 3,000 permanent jobs.
To date, E2 has tracked 390 major clean energy projects across 42 states and Puerto Rico since the Inflation Reduction Act passed in August 2022. In total, companies plan to invest $132 billion and hire 123,000 permanent workers.
But the report warns that momentum could grind to a halt if the House tax plan becomes law. Since the clean energy tax credits were signed into law, 45 announced projects have been canceled, downsized, or closed entirely, wiping out nearly 20,000 jobs and $16.7 billion in investments.
What’s more, Trump’s Department of Energy announced today that it was killing more than $3.7 billion in funding for carbon capture and sequestration (CCS) and decarbonization initiatives. Eighteen out of 24 projects were awarded through DOE’s Industrial Demonstrations Program (IDP), which was made law in the Inflation Reduction Act. It aimed to strengthen the economic competitiveness of US manufacturers in global markets demanding lower carbon emissions, while supporting US manufacturing jobs and communities.
Executive Director Jason Walsh of the BlueGreen Alliance said in a statement in response to today’s DOE announcement:
The awarded projects that DOE is seeking to kill are concentrated in rural areas and red states. American manufacturers are hungry to partner with the federal government to bolster US industry. The IDP saw $60 billion worth of applications during the program selection process, a ten-times oversubscription.
President Trump claims to be a champion of American manufacturing, but today’s announcement is further evidence that he and his Secretary of Energy are liars.
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A Tesla prototype was spotted at the Fremont factory in California, sparking speculation that it’s the new “cheaper Tesla”, but it looks like a regular Model Y.
A drone operator flew over the Fremont factory this week and spotted a Tesla prototype with light camouflage on the front and back ends.
The vehicle is making a lot of people talk on social media and the media as many think it could be a new “affordable model” coming to Tesla.
Other than the camouflage, the vehicle looks just like a regular Model Y:
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It’s likely one of two things: a new “stripped-down Model Y” or a Model Y Performance.
Model Y Performance is the only version that Tesla hasn’t launched since the design changeover earlier this year.
The “stripped-down Model Y” is what will replace Tesla’s upcoming “affordable models.”
We have been reporting on this new vehicle program from Tesla for a while now.
It came to life just over a year ago as a pivot for Tesla after CEO Elon Musk canceled two cheaper vehicles that Tesla was working on, commonly referred as “the $25,000 Tesla”. Those vehicles were codenamed NV91 and NV92, and they were based on the new vehicle platform that Tesla is now reserving for the Cybercab.
Instead, Musk saw that Tesla’s Model 3 and Model Y production lines were starting to be underutilized as Tesla faced demand issues. Therefore, Tesla canceled the vehicles program based on the new platform and decided to build new vehicles on Model 3/Y platform using the same production lines.
We previously reported that these electric vehicles will likely look very similar to Model 3 and Model Y.
In recent months, several other media reports reinforced that, and Tesla all but confirmed it during its latest earnings call.
Considering this looks like a regular Model Y, it could be the new cheaper and less feature rich Model Y:
Some people are claiming that this vehicle looks smaller than the Model Y, but it’s difficult to tell as the black camouflage on the ends can confuse the eye.
It looks like a very similar size when it passes near other Tesla vehicles:
What do you think it is? Let us know in the comment section below.
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San Francisco-based founder Ahmed Shubber wants to emulate Elon Musk’s success in the electric construction equipment world – and he hopes his new, 32-ton electric bulldozer is enough to make the world sit up and take notice.
Since launching his company, Lumina, in 2021, Shubber has raised more than $8 million and grown the company’s global (!?) headcount to 26 people. That fruit of that team’s labor is the machine seen here. Dubbed “Moonlander,” the first-of-its-kind prototype occupies the physical footprint of something like a Caterpillar D6, but packs the blade and performance of the larger, more powerful Cat D9.
“A D6 could not push that blade,” David Wright, Lumina’s head of UK operations, told the assembled media at the Moonlander’s launch last week. “We can have that blade full of material, full dozing seven to nine cubic meters of material, for eight to 10 hours.”
“Even if you spend all morning heavy dozing and you’re a bit worried about how much juice you’ve used — well, your operators are going to take a union-mandated lunch break, right?” asks Wright. “Plug it in, and in 30 minutes, you’ve put 50% of power back in again.”
Shubber says Lumina is working to raise from $20-40 million for its Series A round to develop the company’s next electric equipment asset: a 100-ton electric excavator called Blade Runner. And, in a truly Tesla-like fashion, Shubber says he’s on track to hit an ambitious $100 million revenue target sometime in the next 24 months.
We’ll see how that unfolds in 2 year’s time, I guess. In the meantime, check out this Lumina promo video for Moonlander, below, then let us know what you think of Shuber’s take on an electric job site in the comments.
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