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It was less than a month ago that Georgia slunk into the locker room at halftime against Alabama, trailing by 23, battered and dazed, a shell of the program that had dominated the previous three seasons of college football.

A lot has changed since then.

Georgia’s frantic second-half comeback attempt that night didn’t ultimately end with a win, but it was an awakening, and the rejuvenated Bulldogs marched into Austin, Texas, on Saturday night and delivered a stark reminder that they’re still the kings of college football.

Alabama survived that night against Georgia, but it has since felt like the plot of some bad “Final Destination” sequel. The Tide should’ve lost that one, and death has stalked them ever since — first with a loss to Vanderbilt, then a narrow escape against South Carolina, and finally a dagger on Saturday against Tennessee. The Vols broke out the victory cigars after an ugly 24-17 win, handing Alabama a second loss before Nov. 1 for the first time since 2007.

And when the dust settled on Week 8, it’s not Georgia or Alabama or Texas or Tennessee at the top of the SEC standings. Instead, it’s LSU and Texas A&M — two teams that lost in Week 1 — now the lone programs still undefeated in conference play.

It is perhaps fitting that the most memorable moment from Saturday’s SEC chaos was a meeting of officials on the field in Austin, with fans tossing trash from the stands and both coaches apoplectic on the sidelines. None of this makes much sense, and we’re all struggling to sort out what just happened.

Perhaps we should believe that Georgia is, in spite of that loss to the Tide last month, still the preeminent team in college football. The Bulldogs certainly looked the part Saturday behind a running game that, for the first time this season, flexed real muscle. Trevor Etienne carried 19 times for 87 yards and three touchdowns behind an O-line that looked dominant. And yet, there were still red flags, led by Carson Beck‘s three interceptions, including the one that resulted in that scrum of officials.

Initially, what looked like a pick by Jahdae Barron was overturned by a flag for defensive pass interference. The crowd erupted in a chorus of boos as replay seemed to show little evidence of a flagrant foul. Steve Sarkisian pleaded his case, Texas fans threw various condiments onto the field and the officials gathered to discuss their options.

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Refs overturn crucial PI call after fans throw trash on the field

After the referees call a controversial pass interference play, Texas fans throw trash on the field and the call is reversed.

What was said in that huddle may never be known, but it’s entirely possible Matthew McConaughey wandered over from his place on the sideline, explained to the officials that the universe is filled with mystery and time is but a mirage and, in fact, that flag only truly existed in their minds.

After the officials picked up the flag, Texas scored to pull within eight, but Georgia never flinched. Nothing — not questionable officiating, Beck’s struggles or even a brief appearance by Arch Manning in which the crowd squealed like teenagers seeing the Beatles on “The Ed Sullivan Show” could keep the Bulldogs from an emphatic win.

It was a jarring setback for Texas, but what does that even mean in the SEC in 2024?

Alabama was king three weeks ago, and now the Tide have the same conference record as Florida.

Saturday’s performance in Knoxville was ugly. The offense managed just 314 yards. The Tide had 15 penalties in the game. King Mack‘s acting skills were atrocious.

Three weeks ago, Tennessee was distraught. The offense was a mess, Nico Iamaleava couldn’t hit the broad side of a sun sphere, and an upset loss to Arkansas seemed to have the Vols’ playoff hopes on life support. But by Saturday evening, Iamaleava, Josh Heupel and Co. were enjoying the finest cigars 7-Eleven stocks behind the counter, and all was right with the world.

In Week 1, LSU couldn’t get off the field against USC. Now, it is riding high atop the SEC (while the Trojans, meanwhile, are such a disaster their season would be rejected as a plot line on “9-1-1” for being too unrealistic).

In Week 1, Texas A&M couldn’t find an offensive spark against Notre Dame. Now, the Aggies are 4-0 in conference and Mike Elko is the first A&M coach to start his tenure with six wins in seven games since an era when every college football coach was named Knute, Pop or Hoss.

And amid all of the zigs and zags of this SEC season, there’s still Vanderbilt, sailing along like a goalpost in the Cumberland River. Somehow the Commodores have a better shot at the SEC title game than the Tide or Ole Miss or Oklahoma because, in 2024, in this new SEC, there’s almost nothing that feels normal.

Well, OK, Auburn stinks. At least that’s a proper through line.

But the larger takeaway — from Saturday’s heavyweight fights, from the season to date — is that making sense of this year’s SEC is not for the faint of heart.

This is a new era, and what we knew to be true for the past 20 years — even for the past few weeks — can evaporate quicker than a defensive pass interference call in Texas.

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We’re good now | Miami makes magic | Cook to the rescue
FSU loses … again | BYU stays undefeated | Vibe shifts
Dark days in Norman | Irish roll | Iowa State survives
Heisman five | Under the radar

We’re good now

Sometimes teams we’ve collectively dismissed in September use the time outside the spotlight to fix some problems and find their footing. With that in mind, we’re checking in with some surprising upstarts who’ve gone from afterthoughts to teams with real aspirations.

Washington State (6-1)

The Cougars dominated Hawai’i 42-10 behind QB John Mateer, who threw for three touchdowns and ran for two more. Mateer has developed into college football’s wildest ride — completing fewer than 60% of his throws, boasting three games with five touchdowns or more, winning a game while completing nine passes and losing one when completing 26. There’s virtually nothing about Mateer that seems off the table. He could throw for 600 yards or he could decide to live in a van and follow Maroon 5 on tour for a year. Anything is possible.

Colorado (5-2)

Travis Hunter left Saturday’s game after aggravating a shoulder injury, but it didn’t matter much for the Buffaloes, who romped past the Arizona Wildcats, 34-7. Deion Sanders’ squad is now just a win away from bowl eligibility, which would be a nice bit of validation for the oft-criticized coach if he were the type of person who looked for external validation rather than simply counting Instagram likes.

Cincinnati (5-2)

The Bearcats blew a 27-6 second-half lead against the Pittsburgh Panthers and missed a final-second field goal in a three-point loss to the Texas Tech Red Raiders, otherwise we’d be talking about an undefeated Cincinnati team. Either way, the Bearcats are 5-2 after beating Arizona State 24-14 on Saturday in a game in which the Sun Devils missed two late field goals that had head coach Kenny Dillingham saying he’d open up tryouts for a new kicker this week.

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ASU coach Kenny Dillingham labels his team’s kicking game “atrocious” and says it will be hosting open tryouts on Monday.

Wisconsin (5-2)

After dropping back-to-back games to Alabama and USC, the Badgers have found their mojo with three straight wins in which they allowed a grand total of 16 total points. That those three wins came against Purdue, Rutgers and, on Saturday, 23-3 vs. Northwestern, undercuts a bit of the enthusiasm, but after enough Brandy Old Fashioneds, who’s really counting anyway?

Vanderbilt (5-2)

These are halcyon days in Nashville. Will Levis is doing shirtless mayo commercials. Sturgill Simpson is doing what amounts to an Eras Tour for middle-aged guys with beards. And Vanderbilt is 5-2 after Saturday’s 28-14 win over Ball State. Diego Pavia accounted for 357 yards and two touchdowns in the win, which puts the Commodores ahead of Alabama, Ole Miss and Oklahoma in the SEC standings because the world no longer makes any sense.

The entire state of Louisiana (22-5)

LSU rode Caden Durham for three touchdowns in a 34-10 win over Arkansas on Saturday. Tulane cruised to a 24-10 win over Rice, too. Louisiana upended Coastal Carolina 34-24 and ULM had an off week. Add it all up, and the state’s four FBS teams are a combined 22-5. It’s the type of overwhelming success that warrants daily parades, an endless array of cocktails and a party around every corner. Unfortunately, that’s just not Louisiana’s style, so it’ll celebrate with a cool glass of milk and a nice book.


Miami makes magic

In the second half of Miami’s 52-45 win over Louisville, the Hurricanes’ offense went with a silent snap count, ostensibly because of the hostile crowd but, in QB Cam Ward‘s estimation, it was simply because “it looks cooler.”

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Cam Ward tosses 4 TDs as Miami stays perfect with win over Louisville

Miami QB Cam Ward goes off for four touchdown passes and 319 yards as the Hurricanes move to 7-0 with a win over Louisville.

This is the vibe Miami’s operating with right now. At 7-0, and despite three straight nail-biters, the Canes are basically just doing what they want offensively because Ward is all but unstoppable.

Midway through the second quarter, Miami went for it on fourth-and-1 from its own 25. Receiver Sammy Brown‘s explanation: “If a team can stop us four straight plays, kudos to them.”

Miami led by seven at the half, and Ward’s message to his teammates as they walked off the field: “Don’t worry. We ain’t done.”

Miami benefited from some controversial officiating for the third straight week, and all Mario Cristobal had to say was, “The head official’s cat has been returned safe and sound, and any perceived threats were taken completely out of context.”

OK, we made that last one up, but the rest of Miami’s secret formula seems unimpeachable. Ward threw for 319 yards and four touchdowns — to four different receivers. The ground game came to life to the tune of 219 yards. And the officials went to replay on a critical call that worked out for Miami. Rinse, repeat.


Cook makes heroic return

Missouri rallied past Auburn 21-17 on Saturday thanks to a legendary performance by QB Brady Cook.

Cook went down with an ankle injury on the first series of the game. He was taken to the hospital for an MRI, and Missouri said he was unlikely to return.

But Cook had other plans.

In what would be a central plot point in any football movie ever made, Cook emerged from the ER with little more than a sore ankle and $1,200 toward his deductible, then returned to the field in the third quarter, rescuing Missouri from a 17-3 deficit and engineering two fourth-quarter touchdown drives in the win. This marked the first game in SEC history in which a QB left a hospital bed to beat a team whose coach once won a game from a hospital bed.

Ultimately, the performance will be remembered in Missouri football lore and served as a reminder that a guy who spent half a game in an MRI machine is still better than anything Michigan can find at QB.


Noles dig below rock-bottom

This is not the first season that has gone horribly wrong for Florida State. Much of the past 20 years has been a roller coaster between 10-win seasons and utter misery. But at no point in 22 previous meetings had the Seminoles reached this depth: a loss to Duke.

But this year is something special. It isn’t just bad. It is cartoonishly awful, the type of ritualistic embarrassment typically reserved for Wile E. Coyote. On Friday, the receivers dropped nearly a half dozen easy catches, the offense turned it over on three straight plays and at one point, we’re fairly certain Mike Norvell was just standing on the sideline holding up a sign that read “Yikes.”

Florida State turned the ball over four times in the game, went 2-of-14 on third downs, and despite holding Duke to just 180 total yards of offense, still lost, 23-16. FSU could’ve tied it on its final drive after having a first down at the Blue Devils’ 38 with 1:23 to play, but the Noles proceeded to lose 24 yards over their next four plays before running into the side of a mountain that Manny Diaz had painted to look like a tunnel.

FSU’s decline from last season’s 13-0 ACC championship team is baffling, but there is one possible explanation for the precipitous fall, and it involves Norvell meeting the devil at the crossroads of I-10 and Thomasville Road before last season.

Devil: “How would you like it if I ensured you won every regular-season game en route to an ACC title?”

Norvell: “OK, but what’s the catch, an awful postseason game?”

Devil: “Oh, you’ll play Georgia in your bowl game — and everyone will be talking about it afterward.”

Norvell: “That actually sounds OK. But surely there’s a catch. Is the 2024 team going to be a mess?”

Devil: “Why, I’ll actually make sure you land a five-star QB and a bunch of Alabama players in the transfer portal.”

Norvell: “Wow, that’s great but, I’m still a bit dubious.”

Devil: “You’ll also have two legitimate All-America candidates on your 2024 team.”

Norvell: “Wait, it’s not going to be the kicker and punter, is it?”

Devil: “Look, are you going to sign the paperwork or not? I’ve got an 11:30 with Hugh Freeze, and if I’m late, he starts blaming his players.”


You mess with the bull …

BYU stayed undefeated thanks to a late rally by QB Jake Retzlaff, culminating in a 35-yard touchdown pass to secure the 38-35 win over Oklahoma State on Friday. The Cougars are 7-0, and after the game, Retzlaff called the win “spiritual,” adding “how can you not be romantic about this game?” Unfortunately for Retzlaff, it is against BYU’s code of conduct to be romantic about the game.

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BYU fans go wild on late game-winning TD

BYU’s Darius Lassiter sends the crowd into a frenzy after hauling in a miraculous touchdown catch in the waning moments against Oklahoma State.

Alan Bowman came off the bench in relief of an injured Garret Rangel and helped ignite the Cowboys’ passing game, including a touchdown throw with just 1:13 to play that gave Oklahoma State the lead. But the Cowboys’ defense fell apart in the final minute, allowing BYU to march 75 yards on eight plays in just over a minute of action.

Oklahoma State is now 0-4 in Big 12 play, and Mike Gundy may be the only coach in the country who can rightly say being attacked by a cow wasn’t the worst thing that happened to him last week.


Week 8 vibe shifts

Each week, there are huge wins, massive upsets and astonishing plays that help define the college football season. But there are also plenty of smaller moments that subtly shift the landscape, and we try to track those moments here.

Trending down: Michigan‘s ranking

Despite two ugly losses and a complete lack of a coherent passing attack, Michigan remained in the AP poll this past week. That should change after Saturday’s 21-7 defeat at the hands of Illinois.

Michigan has now lost as many times in its past six games as it had in the prior three seasons, though Saturday’s mess was especially cruel. Illinois prevailed despite its starting quarterback, Luke Altmyer, completing just 9 of 18 throws for 80 yards, leading an incredulous Sherrone Moore to ask why that type of QB production never works for Michigan.

After Week 8, the two teams that played for last year’s national championship — Michigan and the Washington Huskies — are now 8-6 in 2024.

Trending down: Winless teams

And then there were two.

On Wednesday, UTEP scored win No. 1 by upending Florida International 30-21. That leaves just two FBS teams still in search of win No. 1.

Kennesaw State, which became an FBS member this year, is now 0-6 after a woeful 14-5 loss to MTSU on Tuesday. Thankfully, Atlanta-area fans are already so numb to October misery because of the Atlanta Braves that it doesn’t really matter.

Meanwhile, Kent State — next to Kennesaw State alphabetically and metaphorically — lost to Bowling Green 27-6. The Golden Flashes are now 0-7 and riding the nation’s longest losing streak at 16 straight games, which if you don’t count the Cleveland Browns, makes them Ohio’s most embarrassing football team.

Trending down: Men of Troy

Fun fact: Florida State isn’t the only 2023 conference champion that won double-digit games last season to open this one 1-6. Troy is also horrible, though unfortunately for Mike Norvell, far fewer people have noticed. After winning 25 games over the past two seasons, the Trojans dropped to 1-6 with a 25-9 loss to South Alabama on Tuesday.

But that wasn’t even close to the worst moment for the teams named after a people most famous for being catfished by a wooden horse.

USC blew a 21-7 second-half lead to Maryland, falling 29-28 in the latest of a series of brutal fourth-quarter defeats. The Trojans lined up for a potential game-sealing field goal with two minutes left, but Maryland’s Donnell Brown blocked it, and the Terps found the end zone with 53 seconds to play to win the game. It’s USC’s fourth loss this season, all coming after holding a lead in the final quarter.

USC is now 5-9 in its past 14 games, which proves that those Lincoln Riley voodoo dolls Barry Switzer has been selling outside Oklahoma Memorial Stadium really do work.

Trending up: Strategic use of the rulebook

This week, the NCAA moved to close the loophole in the rulebook that allowed Oregon‘s Dan Lanning to strategically put a 12th man on defense in order to take a small penalty but also run some time off the clock late in a win over Ohio State.

Lanning didn’t need to worry about running out the clock Friday in a 35-0 rout of woeful Purdue, but just to keep the NCAA on its toes, he did attempt to disguise a play by having Dillon Gabriel wear a fake mustache and sunglasses, gained an edge on rush defense by laying out those spikes police use in high-speed chases, and in the second half, used a golden retriever at wideout. The dog finished with six catches for 87 yards and a belly rub.

Trending up: Winning easy

Eight weeks into the season, not only are Army and Indiana undefeated, but neither team has trailed at any point this season.

On Saturday, the Black Knights cruised past East Carolina 45-28 behind Bryson Daily‘s six total touchdowns, while the Hoosiers drubbed Nebraska 56-7 in a game that feels like it had to be Scott Frost’s fault somehow.

Army has the nation’s longest winning streak at 11 games and hasn’t trailed in a game in almost a full calendar year — since Oct. 28, 2023, against UMass. For context, losing to UMass before going on an 11-game winning streak without ever falling behind is roughly the same as if Army had thwarted Mussolini in World War II only after losing a pivotal battle to the front-of-house staff at an Olive Garden.

Indiana’s rise is even more unexpected given that many people in Bloomington had been unaware the Hoosiers had a football team until a month ago, but Curt Cignetti has turned one of the country’s most moribund programs into a genuine Big Ten power, which raises the question: Can Cignetti also coach basketball?

Trending up: Mascot divorce

It was a rough day for the NC State Wolfpack‘s Mr. Wuf, who learned — like so many in the ACC have this season — that Oski is a smooth operator.

As for the action on the field, however, it was another brutal defeat for the California Golden Bears, who missed a chip-shot field goal with 1:34 to play that would’ve won it. Cal has now lost four straight by a combined total of nine points. Also, Oski now has to drive Mrs. Wuf’s kids to soccer practice every Thursday, which is going to really interfere with his bowling league.


Dark days in Norman

How bad are things at Oklahoma right now? On Saturday, South Carolina led 21-0 before the Sooners had finished putting on their cleats.

Oklahoma’s first play was an interception, which South Carolina turned into a touchdown. The Sooners’ fourth play was a sack-fumble that South Carolina scooped for another touchdown. Oklahoma’s ninth play was another interception, this one returned for a score.

The lack of QB production is stunning, however, given the pedigree of Michael Hawkins, who was benched, and Jackson Arnold, who burned a redshirt to come on in relief.

After the game, Venables said the decision to use Arnold — who had been benched earlier this season after appearing in four games — was an easy one, given that it was Oklahoma’s best chance to win and reminded angry Sooners fans that this is actually all Lincoln Riley’s fault.


Irish roll again

Riley Leonard struggled through a rough first quarter Saturday against Georgia Tech, completing just 2 of 5 passes for 8 yards and an interception as the Yellow Jackets jumped out to a 7-0 lead.

After that, however, Leonard was nearly perfect.

Leonard completed his next 12 straight passes, and Notre Dame scored touchdowns on three straight drives, marching past Georgia Tech 31-13. For the game, Leonard threw for 203 yards, ran for 51 and scored two rushing touchdowns.

Notre Dame is now 6-1, well positioned for the playoff and, after early offensive struggles, has now put up more than 30 points in three straight games. This could either be a sign the Northern Illinois loss was a complete fluke or, perhaps more likely, getting to play three straight ACC teams solves a lot of problems for anyone’s offense.


Cyclones survive

Iowa State escaped a near-catastrophe Saturday, squeezing out a 38-35 win over UCF thanks to a Rocco Becht touchdown run with 30 seconds left in the game.

That the Cyclones even had a chance late came largely because of UCF’s own incompetence. Braeden Marshall intercepted Becht in the second half and appeared to cruise into the end zone for a pick-six, only he forgot to bring the football with him.

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UCF player drops the ball before he reaches the end zone

Braeden Marshall drops the ball at the 1-yard line after picking off Iowa State’s Rocco Becht, forcing the pick-six touchdown to be called back.

In most years, this would qualify as the most embarrassing football performance by a team from Florida, but 2024 has been a rough one.

Regardless, the Cyclones survived despite trailing by 14 in the third quarter, allowing 354 yards on the ground and turning the ball over twice in the game. Iowa State is now 7-0 to start a season for the first time since 1938.


Heisman five

Travis Hunter left Colorado’s game with an injury for the second straight week, which knocks him out of our Heisman contenders for now but did allow him to focus on refining his punting skills so he can be used in all three phases of the game when he’s healthy again.

1. Boise State RB Ashton Jeanty

The Broncos were off in Week 8, which forced Jeanty to find other ways to embarrass Mountain West defenses and, long story short, Wyoming should’ve known better than to try to stamp out that flaming bag with its new boots.

2. Miami QB Cam Ward

Ward threw for four touchdowns in a rollicking win over Louisville on Saturday. More importantly, he helped the Canes secure the Schnellenberger Trophy, which is a bronzed pair of Howard Schnellenberger’s cowboy boots. It’s a fine trophy, but it would’ve been much cooler if the win meant Ward was forced to grow a distinguished-looking white mustache instead. That’s Schnellenberger’s real legacy.

3. Army QB Bryson Daily

Daily had six touchdowns in a win over East Carolina, including a 17-yarder that featured a video game spin move.

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Touchdown! Bryson Daily scores vs. East Carolina

For the season, Daily now has six passing touchdowns and 14 rushing touchdowns, and he has successfully thwarted Hydra’s attempts at world domination.

4. Navy QB Blake Horvath

Horvath threw for 117 yards and three touchdowns in a dominant 51-17 win over Charlotte on Saturday. Horvath now has 10 passing touchdowns this season — or the same as Navy’s total all of last year. It’s also more than Iowa has had in a season since 2021.

5. Clemson QB Cade Klubnik

In a Week 1 drubbing by Georgia, Klubnik threw an interception, averaged just 4.9 yards per pass and fell for the old “What’s that on your shirt?” trick before Mykel Williams flicked him in the nose. Since then, though, the Clemson QB has been borderline unstoppable, completing 67% of his throws with 24 total touchdowns, 2 picks and a 90.8 Total QBR, second only to Ward among FBS passers.


Under-the-radar play of the week

It’s entirely possible that half the pages in Idaho‘s playbook are taken up by this one play.

The Vandals ran the triple-reverse flea-flicker for a 21-yard touchdown against Cal Poly on Saturday and went on to win 34-29.

It seems unfair that Idaho should have so many players capable of properly executing a forward pass when Michigan doesn’t have any.


Under-the-radar game of the week

The Dakota Marker belongs to North Dakota State after Cam Miller hit RaJa Nelson for a 20-yard touchdown with 1:49 to play Saturday to give the Bison a 13-9 win over South Dakota State.

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Cam Miller finds RaJa Nelson for go-ahead North Dakota State TD

Cam Miller combines again with RaJa Nelson to give North Dakota State the lead late vs. South Dakota State.

The win marks the latest chapter in the ongoing rivalry between the two states, who’ve long battled for the moniker of “state least likely for the average ninth-grader to identify on a map.” It also snapped a five-game winning streak in the rivalry for South Dakota State, and it was the first time the Bison won the Dakota Marker on their home field since 2018. Miller threw for two touchdown passes — both to Nelson.

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Mike Sullivan, who led the Pittsburgh Penguins to back-to-back Stanley Cups in 2016 and 2017, is out as the team’s head coach, it was announced Monday.

Sullivan was the longest-tenured coach in Penguins history after just completing his 10th season. The 57-year-old, who also coached Team USA at the 4 Nations Face-Off, was under contract in Pittsburgh through 2026-27.

In a statement, Penguins GM Kyle Dubas said the decision was “the best course forward for all involved” as Pittsburgh navigates a transitional period.

“On behalf of Fenway Sports Group and the Penguins organization, I would like to thank Mike Sullivan for his unwavering commitment and loyalty to the team and City of Pittsburgh over the past decade,” Dubas said. “Mike is known for his preparation, focus and fierce competitiveness. I was fortunate to have a front-row seat to his dedication to this franchise for the past two seasons. He will forever be an enormous part of Penguins history, not only for the impressive back-to-back Cups, his impact on the core of Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin, Kris Letang and Bryan Rust, but more importantly, for his love and loyalty to the organization. This was not a decision that was taken lightly, but as we continue to navigate the Penguins through this transitional period, we felt it was the best course forward for all involved.”

The Penguins have missed the playoffs for three straight seasons as Dubas works to retool the team into a contender while Crosby is still competing at a high level. Crosby just completed his 20th straight season in which he posted a point-per-game scoring pace, and he was voted by his peers in the NHLPA as the league’s most complete player. The captain is under contract through next season on a two-year extension he signed prior to the 2024-25 season.

Sullivan was elevated to Penguins head coach in 2015 after leading the organization’s AHL team in Wilkes-Barre. With 409 wins in Pittsburgh, he leaves as the Penguins’ all-time wins leader.

With Sullivan’s departure, there are now seven head-coaching vacancies in the NHL. The Boston Bruins, Chicago Blackhawks, Philadelphia Flyers, Anaheim Ducks, Seattle Kraken and New York Rangers are also searching for new coaches right now. According to sources, Sullivan has been atop the Rangers’ wish list.

Sources also said Sullivan is keen on coaching again next season and will be a top candidate for several of the vacancies. Sullivan worked as an assistant coach with the Rangers and as both an assistant and head coach with the Bruins earlier in his career.

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Stanley Cup playoffs daily: Round 4 of the Battle of Florida, pivotal Game 5 for Avs-Stars

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Home teams are on a tear in the 2025 Stanley Cup playoffs, going 21-10 thus far. Will that trend continue Monday?

The early matchup is Game 4 of the Battle of Florida, and the festivities have become heated; Tampa Bay Lightning forward Brandon Hagel was given a major penalty for his hit on Florida Panthers captain Aleksander Barkov in Game 2, and subsequently suspended for Game 3. In that game, Matthew Tkachuk leveled a hard hit on Jake Guentzel but did not receive the same punishment. What will transpire in Game 4?

In the nightcap, the clash of West titans continues, as the Colorado Avalanche look to keep the momentum going after their 4-0 victory over the Dallas Stars in Game 4 on Saturday.

Read on for game previews with statistical insights from ESPN Research, recaps of what went down in Sunday’s games, and the Three Stars of Sunday Night from Arda Öcal.

Matchup notes

Tampa Bay Lightning at Florida Panthers
Game 4 (FLA leads 2-1) | 7 p.m. ET | ESPN

Teams that hold a 2-1 series lead have gone on to win the best-of-seven matchup 69% of the time in Stanley Cup playoff history. The Panthers have won two out of three best-of-seven series when holding a 2-1 lead, and the Lightning are 6-7 all time when trailing 2-1.

Jake Guentzel had three points (goal, two assists) in Game 3, and his 40 career playoff goals are third most among active U.S.-born players, trailing Patrick Kane (53) and Chris Kreider (48).

With his win in Game 3, Andrei Vasilevskiy now has 67 for his postseason career, second most among active goaltenders (behind Marc-Andre Fleury, who has 92), and one behind Andy Moog for 11th on the all-time list.

Matthew Tkachuk scored his third goal of the series in Game 3, and became the third player in franchise history with 20 career playoffs goals (Carter Verhaeghe 26, Sam Reinhart 22); he is also the third Panther to record 50 playoff points for the club (Aleksander Barkov 62, Verhaeghe 54).

Aaron Ekblad‘s return from suspension didn’t go so well. According to Stathletes, Ekblad and Gustav Forsling played 10:50 together at 5-on-5, and the Lightning scored three goals while they were on the ice.

Colorado Avalanche at Dallas Stars
Game 5 (series tied 2-2) | 9:30 p.m. ET | ESPN

With the series tied 2-2, history is on the Stars’ side: Colorado is 11-12 when a series is tied 2-2. Dallas has gone 18-14 in the same scenario.

Nathan MacKinnon is up to 52 career playoff goals, which is six away from tying Peter Forsberg for second in Avalanche/Nordiques franchise history; Joe Sakic is first with 84.

Gabriel Landeskog made his return to the ice in Game 3 for the first time since the 2022 Stanley Cup Final, and scored a goal in Game 4, the 28th playoff goal of his career.

Mikko Rantanen (formerly of the Avs, now of the Stars) has only one point (an assist) through four games, but it’s not for a lack of trying; he has 12 shots on goal, which is second most on the team this postseason (Roope Hintz has 13).

Stars goalie Jake Oettinger was pulled in Game 4, just the fourth time in 49 career playoff starts he has played 40 minutes or less. Since 2022, Oettinger has the second-most postseason wins (25), behind Sergei Bobrovsky (34).


Arda’s three stars from Sunday night

Svechnikov potted a hat trick to lift the Canes to a 5-2 win against the Devils in Newark, giving them a 3-1 series lead. Svechnikov is the only Hurricanes/Whalers player in franchise history (45 seasons, 205 playoff games) with a hat trick in the playoffs (he now has two).

His two goals in the third period tied the game at 3, setting the stage for the Oilers to win in OT and tie up the series. Bouchard is now the fourth defenseman to have back-to-back multigoal games in Stanley Cup playoff history.

After two points over the first three games of the series, Neighbors scored a goal and added two assists as the Blues emphatically tied the series with a 5-1 victory in Game 4.


Sunday’s scores

St. Louis Blues 5, Winnipeg Jets 1
Series tied 2-2 | Game 5 Wednesday

Although he is the overwhelming favorite to win the Vezina Trophy as the NHL’s best goalie in the regular season, Connor Hellebuyck is not having a great time this postseason. He was pulled in the third period of this loss after giving up five goals on 18 shots. Winnipeg’s Kyle Connor opened the scoring in this game, but the Blues charged back with five straight goals off the sticks of Jake Neighbours, Tyler Tucker, Brayden Schenn, Justin Faulk and Robert Thomas. The home team has won every game in this series. Will that continue in Game 5 in Winnipeg? Full recap.

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Tyler Tucker puts the Blues ahead with a goal

Tyler Tucker scores in the second period to give the Blues a 2-1 lead over the Jets.

Carolina Hurricanes 5, New Jersey Devils 2
CAR leads 3-1 | Game 5 Tuesday

After the Canes went up 3-0, the Devils punched back with two second-period goals, and Carolina starting goalie Frederik Andersen was knocked out after a collision with New Jersey’s Timo Meier. However, that was as close as the Devils would get, as Brent Burns added a goal at 14:14 of the third, and Andrei Svechnikov finished off his hat trick with an empty-net goal to seal the deal. Full recap.

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Andrei Svechnikov scores his second career playoff hat trick

Andrei Svechnikov lit the ice with his second career playoff hat trick in Game 4 vs. the Devils.

Washington Capitals 5, Montreal Canadiens 2
WSH leads 3-1 | Game 5 Wednesday

The Bell Centre was rocking again for this one. Washington’s Dylan Strome started the scoring at 1:25 of the second period, but the Canadiens answered back with two power-play goals (from Juraj Slafkovsky and Cole Caufield) to take the lead heading into the third. However, the Caps proved they were the better team, tying it 6:39 into the third, taking the lead 10 minutes later and then pumping in two empty-netters to put it out of reach. Full recap.

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Andrew Mangiapane’s big-time goal gives Caps a lead in the 3rd period

Andrew Mangiapane notches a big-time goal to give the Capitals a lead late in the third period.

Edmonton Oilers 4, Los Angeles Kings 3 (OT)
Series tied 2-2 | Game 5 Tuesday

Another back-and-forth contest for these two teams. The Kings held a 3-1 lead heading into the third, thanks to goals from Trevor Moore, Warren Foegele and Kevin Fiala. But the Oilers came back, thanks to a pair of goals by Evan Bouchard (both of which were assisted by Leon Draisaitl and Connor McDavid) to send the game to overtime. Draisaitl then scored the winner on the power play with just 1:42 left in the extra session. Full recap.

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Leon Draisaitl’s OT winner evens the series for the Oilers

Leon Draisaitl nets the winning goal in overtime to give the Oilers a dramatic win over the Kings in Game 4.

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Stanley Cup takeaways as Round 1 heats up: Who is poised to move on — and why

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Stanley Cup takeaways as Round 1 heats up: Who is poised to move on -- and why

Round 1 of the 2025 Stanley Cup playoffs is hitting the nitty-gritty stage, as elimination games will be coming from all corners of North America this week.

The storylines are many, from goaltenders being pulled and trying to regain their form to heavy hits stirring emotions even more than they already were.

ESPN reporters Ryan S. Clark, Kristen Shilton and Greg Wyshynski identified their top takeaways as all 16 teams remain alive — at least for the time being.

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Are Connor Hellebuyck and the Jets in trouble … again?

Even with their Game 4 loss Sunday to the St. Louis Blues, the Winnipeg Jets are tied in their series as they look to get out of the first round for the first time in three seasons. But things aren’t trending well for Winnipeg as two-time Vezina Trophy winner Connor Hellebuyck again received an early exit.

In Game 3, Hellebuyck allowed six goals on 25 shots before being pulled, then gave up five goals on 18 shots Sunday. Watching how Hellebuyck would respond to being pulled in Game 3 was clearly a point of interest.

Every Western Conference series has seen one goalie have an early departure. This started with Stuart Skinner being removed in Game 2 in the Oilers’ 6-2 loss to the Los Angeles Kings, while Thursday saw both Hellebuyck and Vegas’ Adin Hill get yanked in their team’s defeats. It happened again Saturday with the Stars relieving Jake Oettinger to start the third period in their 4-0 loss to the Avalanche.

Hellebuyck’s recent history with trying to bounce back from consecutive playoff defeats has been an issue. After he won the opening game in last year’s first-round series, he and the Jets lost four straight. The same thing happened in 2023 when they faced the Golden Knights. In 2021, Hellebuyck lost all four of his starts against the Montreal Canadiens.

The last time Hellebuyck snapped a two-game losing streak in the playoffs came in 2019, when he guided the Jets to wins in Games 3 and 4 against, you guessed it, the Blues, who would go on to win the Stanley Cup that season. Hellebuyck needs to show he can turn things around — in a hurry. — Clark


There’s been no better “salt in the wound” moment in the 2025 postseason than Blues fans chanting “WE WANT CONNOR!” after Hellebuyck was pulled from Game 4 in the third period, having given up five goals on 18 shots.

Superior trolling. Winnipeg fans would be proud.

Why wouldn’t they want Hellebuyck back in the crease? He’s just the seventh goalie in NHL history to allow four or more goals in six straight road playoff games, a streak that includes series losses to Vegas and Colorado. He became the second reigning Vezina Trophy winner ever to be pulled in consecutive playoff games, joining the Flyers’ Ron Hextall in the 1988 divisional series.

Hellebuyck has a .817 save percentage and a 4.24 goals-against average in four playoff games. Over his last three postseasons, Hellebuyck has a 4-10 record with an .866 save percentage and a 4.27 goals-against average.

Over his last three NHL regular seasons, Hellebuyck has 121 wins in 187 games with a .922 save percentage and a 2.29 goals-against average. That guy hasn’t even come close to showing up in the playoffs statistically.

Yet anyone that’s watched the Blues’ 16-goal parade against the Jets knows not all of this is Hellebuyck’s fault. “You watch the replays of the goals that went in and there are deflections, screens, pucks bouncing off us and in,” defenseman Luke Schenn said.

Screening Hellebuyck has been the path to success for teams in the playoffs. Around half of the Blues goals have come with traffic in front of him.

“If there’s people getting to the net, we’ve got to get them out of there before they get their screens. We’ve gotta box out earlier. There’s a lot of coverage stuff,” Jets coach Scott Arniel said.

Hellebuyck is a victim of his own domination. We expect the guy considered to be the best goalie in the world to be able to fight through screens and cover for defensive breakdowns.

Arniel was clear that he’s “100% confident” in Hellebuyck in the playoffs. “There are things that we have to do to help him and he knows he has to do things to help us,” he said.

But Arniel also said that if Winnipeg is going to win two out of the next three games, “our best players have to be better than their best players.” And there’s no question that Jordan Binnington has been the better goalie in this series than Hellebuyck.

On Monday, the NHL will announce the finalists for the 2024-25 Vezina Trophy, which Hellebuyck has won twice and will probably win again in June. It’s the award given annually to the best goalie in the regular season. Connor Hellebuyck is in real danger of having his career defined by what he’s failed to do after those initial 82 games. — Wyshynski


Ottawa has life — until Toronto proves it can close

1-12.

That’s the Toronto Maple Leafs‘ record in playoff elimination games going back to 2017.

It’s an unflattering figure, just like the Leafs’ 0-1 record in this series in attempting to close out the Ottawa Senators.

There’s that old cliché that the final win of a series is the toughest to get. The Leafs have spent almost a decade proving that’s true. And Toronto certainly had its chances to sweep the Senators into summer mode in Game 4 on Saturday night. The Leafs had a four-minute power play in overtime, albeit without John Tavares available after he exited earlier to be assessed for a possible injury.

Still.

Toronto was 5-for-9 with the extra man in the first three games of the series; the Leafs were 0-for-4 on the power play in Game 4. They gave up a shorthanded goal to Shane Pinto in the first period to boot. Not ideal.

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Jake Sanderson sends Ottawa fans into a frenzy with Game 4 OT winner

Jake Sanderson celebrates with his teammates after netting the game-winning goal in overtime for the Senators vs. the Maple Leafs.

Now, Ottawa is due ample credit for how it persevered to earn an overtime victory. The Senators went up 2-0 in the first period, only to see that lead evaporate by the second. David Perron put Ottawa up again and the Leafs tied it to force the extra frame. The Senators could have shrunk in the face of that daunting four-minute power play (with or without Tavares) and instead they stood tall. And Jake Sanderson‘s goal gave Ottawa the chance to play on.

Have the scales tipped in Ottawa’s favor? The Senators have nothing to lose here; they have the luxury of playing loose. Toronto is saddled with expectations born of too many prior postseason disappointments. But this Leafs team is built differently, right? And so Toronto can’t — or won’t — let one demoralizing defeat turn into two, will it? — Shilton


Maybe don’t challenge, coaches?

In the regular season, coaches who challenged scoring plays for interference won more than they lost, with a 56% success rate on 126 challenges. Which means the risk — getting a delay of game penalty if they’re wrong — was worth it.

That’s an acceptable risk in an 82-game season. But in a seven-game playoff series, you’ve got to be sure — and so far in the 2025 postseason, coaches would have been better off not challenging.

The first challenge was a somewhat desperate one from Edmonton coach Kris Knoblauch in Game 1 against the Kings. Defenseman Jake Walman was ruled to have shot the puck over the glass for a delay of game penalty. He was convinced that wasn’t the case, and the Oilers — trailing 5-3 at that point in the third period — backed up Walman by challenging the call. It was ruled there was “no conclusive evidence” that the puck went off the glass “after a thorough examination of all available replays.”

So Edmonton got a delay of game on top of a delay of game, although Los Angeles couldn’t convert on the ensuing 5-on-3 power play.

The other coaches weren’t as lucky. Tampa Bay’s Jon Cooper unsuccessfully challenged goalie interference on Nate Schmidt‘s goal that gave Florida a 3-1 lead in Game 1. The league ruled Eetu Luostarinen was making a play on the loose puck in the crease before Schmidt’s goal, which by rule isn’t interference. The Lightning were given a delay of game penalty. Matthew Tkachuk scored 14 seconds into the ensuing power play to make it 4-1 and put the game out of reach.

But the most ill-conceived challenge of the playoffs was from Kings coach Jim Hiller in Game 3 against Edmonton, seeking to overturn an Evander Kane goal that made it 4-4 at 13:18 of the third period. I’m still trying to figure out what they saw that inspired the challenge, and why the Kings would gamble with giving Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl a chance to break the tie by handing them a power play — which they did, when Draisaitl assisted on Evan Bouchard‘s eventual game winner.

“We got a good look at it. We took plenty of time. We felt it was goalie interference, so we challenged it. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose on those. Tonight we lost, and it cost us big time. No other way around it,” Hiller said, stating the obvious.

So far in the playoffs, the cost has outweighed the benefit. — Wyshynski


Are the Golden Knights about to turn the corner?

Being a franchise in a championship window that already has produced a title is naturally going to spark a conversation about what can be done to win a second. For the Vegas Golden Knights? The whole has been greater than the sum of their parts, not that the parts themselves are to be taken lightly.

The Golden Knights won a Stanley Cup in 2023 by receiving contributions throughout their lineup. That’s exactly what happened Saturday in their 4-3 overtime win that was the difference between them being tied at 2-2 versus facing a consecutive first-round exit with an elimination game on home ice.

Look at how Vegas was able to win. Shea Theodore scored the opener on the power play with Nicolas Roy also scoring a power-play goal that tied it at 2-2. Adin Hill made the necessary saves that allowed the Golden Knights to navigate overtime before Ivan Barbashev scored the winning goal. All three goals were from players who hadn’t scored in the first three games of the series, while Hill rebounded from allowing four goals on 21 shots in Game 4.

Everything Barbashev, Hill, Roy and Theodore did speaks to how the Golden Knights can tap into their depth. Could Game 5 lead to similar results for star Jack Eichel and captain Mark Stone? Both players, who were held to no points entering Game 3, were also pointless in Game 4 but showed signs of promise considering they combined for 10 shots on goal. That’s the same number of shots they had in the first three games combined. — Clark


No love lost in the Battle of Florida

Of course it all starts with Matthew Tkachuk.

Florida’s feistiest forward already was giving Tampa Bay fits in their first-round series with three goals in the first three games. Then came another crushing blow — literally — when Tkachuk smacked Bolts forward Jake Guentzel at center ice and earned a game misconduct as Florida fell 5-1 in Game 3.

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Fracas ensues after Tkachuk’s late hit, Cirelli’s empty-netter

Matthew Tkachuk gets a five-minute major for a late hit prior to Anthony Cirelli’s empty-net goal.

Naturally, debate ensued over whether Tkachuk deserved supplemental discipline for the hit — Guentzel was in the process of passing the puck and had released it when Tkachuk made contact. There will be no suspension for Tkachuk — and how that decision will sit with the Lightning, well, we will find out in Game 4 on Monday night.

Players on both sides exchanged pleasantries following Tkachuk’s hit on Guentzel, and it was clear the physical ante was upped in more ways than one. The Lightning played a statement game Saturday, scoring five unanswered goals to get themselves back in the series. Now we can only wonder how the bad blood will seep into the rest of it.

Discipline is key in a long playoff run; it’s even more critical for Tampa Bay given the Panthers’ strong power play (30%) so far in the postseason. The Lightning getting that win and now being further bonded by the way Tkachuk leveled their leading playoff goal scorer adds new layers of intrigue to what lies ahead in this bout of Atlantic Division rivals. — Shilton


Everyone loves Tom Wilson (except those that hate him)

After their Game 4 win, Washington Capitals goalie Logan Thompson was asked how important teammate Tom Wilson was to the team’s success. Wilson was seated next to Thompson, who turned and grinned widely at the hulking forward.

“No need to make his head any bigger,” said Thompson, who then proceeded to further inflate it.

“He’s been huge for us. The heart and soul of this organization, right? When he’s making plays, big hits, we feed off that. Especially in our home rink, I think the whole building feeds off it. He’s a huge part of this team. We love him,” the goalie said, before expanding his arms to mimic Wilson’s head filling with praise.

Wilson deadpanned: “That’s it?”

Like Logan Thompson, there are many who love Tom Wilson. There are also legions of fans and opponents who loathe him for a history of injurious hits and other unsportsmanlike conduct. Montreal fans and players were not enamored with Wilson in Game 3 when he fought Josh Anderson in a brawl that spilled into the Capitals’ bench and then pretended to sob while calling out an unidentified Habs player as a whiner.

“Things escalated,” said Anderson after the game.

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Canadiens-Caps brawl spills into the bench at end of 2nd period

The Canadiens and Capitals close the second period with a massive brawl in which Josh Anderson and Tom Wilson spar into the bench.

Wilson was more controlled in Game 4 — by his own admission, he wanted to stay out of the box to make a difference on the ice and didn’t take a penalty in the game. In the third period, his impact was felt quite literally: Wilson demolished Montreal defenseman Alexandre Carrier with a center-ice check moments before the Capitals controlled the puck and Brandon Duhaime scored to tie the game at 2-2 with 13:21 left in regulation.

“It’s been a physical series both ways. Getting hit. Giving hits,” said Wilson, who added an empty-netter in the 5-2 win. “It was a big hit. The boys were able to score right after. That’s the way that hockey goes.”

Wilson has played in the postseason for the Capitals since 2012-13. He’s experienced the high of the Stanley Cup championship in 2018 and the lows of postseason collapses. It’s to Washington’s credit that they haven’t given oxygen to a Montreal upset bid, thanks to their Game 1 OT win on an Alex Ovechkin goal and their third-period comeback in Game 4 that gave them a 3-1 series lead.

“It’s a group that’s had different guys step up throughout the year. I don’t think there’s any panic when we’re down a goal. We believe in ourselves,” Wilson said. “We got it done. It’s really fun to come to the rink.”

No one’s scarier when he’s having fun than Tom Wilson. — Wyshynski


More to Landeskog’s Game 4 performance than just his goal

Any questions about how Gabriel Landeskog would fit into a Colorado Avalanche lineup that has dramatically changed since he last played nearly three years ago have been answered at various times this postseason. But in a 4-0 win over the Dallas Stars in Game 4 on Saturday, he provided a clear reminder of what the Avs had been missing.

Landeskog scored 11 goals and 22 points in 20 games when he led Colorado to the third Stanley Cup in franchise history in 2022. His goal and assist in Game 4 against the Stars pushed his career totals to 28 goals and 69 points in 71 postseason contests.

Part of what has allowed Landeskog to consistently find success within the Avs’ setup — whether scoring himself or setting up his teammates — is how he positions himself on the ice, from working in the corners to gain possession to finding a way to get in the slot. Those traits played a role in his one-timer from the slot, off a feed from Brock Nelson, that gave the Avs a 3-0 lead.

Yet the sequence that might have best summed up what Landeskog provides came on Samuel Girard‘s goal that gave Colorado a 4-0 advantage. Landeskog, who received a secondary assist, gave the puck to Nelson, who then found Girard. As Girard was getting ready to shoot, Landeskog went to the net front and battled with 6-foot-7 Stars defenseman Lian Bichsel to gain position and screen goalie Casey DeSmith.

Landeskog’s presence not only helped the Avs knot the series as the scene shifts to Dallas, it is a key element that could push Colorado onward as the playoffs continue. — Clark


Goalie clinic turned to controversy in Hurricanes-Devils

New Jersey’s run might already be done if not for goalie Jacob Markstrom. Carolina could hardly be this commanding if not for netminder Frederik Andersen.

That’s been a significant storyline in the series so far, how two top-tier goaltenders have held their respective teams in balance. In Game 4 on Sunday things took a turn, though, when Andersen was bowled over in his crease by Timo Meier and had to exit the game, being replaced by young Pyotr Kochetkov.

There was no penalty called on the play that sent Andersen to the locker room. And to add insult to injury, Meier turned around and scored on the incoming Kochetkov to narrow the Hurricanes’ lead to 3-2. Ouch.

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GK Frederik Andersen exits the game for the Hurricanes

Frederik Andersen exits the game after a collision, causing backup goalkeeper Pyotr Kochetkov to enter the game.

It’s no secret Andersen has had a rough go with injuries. He missed 39 games in the regular season following knee surgery and was finally appearing at full strength — and health — for the playoffs. Now his status is murky, and the Devils can take advantage — thanks in large part to the marvelous Markstrom.

New Jersey has had poor luck with its blueline health, playing without Brenden Dillon or Luke Hughes since Game 1 and losing Johnathan Kovacevic in Game 3, and it’s Markstrom who has made up for his club’s deficiencies. The veteran has stood tall against Carolina’s attack to give New Jersey every opportunity to take a lead — and hold it — but the Devils’ scoring woes (they had just five through the first three games) haven’t exactly supported Markstrom’s cause. No matter. The Devils goaltender has still produced an impressive .929 save percentage in the postseason, putting him just behind Andersen in that category atop the playoff leaderboard for starting goalies.

And Andersen has earned his place at the peak. He’s been rock solid for Carolina and closed the door on New Jersey time and again. Andersen’s heroics in Game 3 allowed the Hurricanes a chance to come back and win in double overtime. (His stop on Meier in the second period was particularly outstanding.)

The way these two have gone toe-to-toe is playoff goaltending at its best. We should be talking about who can sustain their excellence long enough to be the deciding factor in a series victory. Now it’s a question of who will be available for the Hurricanes going forward — Andersen or the upstart Kochetkov? The answer could have long-term implications for Carolina. — Shilton


Can the Oilers beat the curse of the Western Conference?

OK. Maybe “curse” is too strong a word in this case. However, being the team representing the Western Conference in the Stanley Cup Final has come with its fair share of issues over the last few postseasons.

It started in 2020 when the Stars won the Western Conference playing in the Edmonton bubble. They lost to the Tampa Bay Lightning and failed to make the playoffs the following season. Of course, there was no Western Conference champion during the 2020-21 season because of the pandemic.

Fast-forward to 2022. The Avalanche won the West and the Stanley Cup. But a year later, they were eliminated in the first round. In 2023, the Golden Knights captured their first title only to get knocked out in the first round in 2024. Entering the weekend, the Oilers were trailing 2-1 in their series against the Kings after losing the first two games in Southern California.

The Kings-Oilers series has been bizarre beyond the fact this is the fourth straight time they’ve played in the first round. A last-minute goal in a 6-5 thriller in Game 1 was followed up by the Oilers giving up six goals for the second consecutive game in a 6-2 loss, which was followed by another high-scoring contest with the Oilers winning 7-4 in Game 3. It’s a safe bet something else bizarre could happen, like the Oilers either falling prey to the curse or breaking it. — Clark

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