A political strategist who worked on Sir Keir Starmer’s campaign has explained how she went to the US to share “lessons learned” with the Democrats following Labour’s election victory.
This week, the Trump campaign accused Labour of illegal interference after the party’s head of operations, Sofia Patel, posted on LinkedIn she was coordinating nearly 100 current and former party officials to campaign in battleground states.
Deborah Mattinson, who also worked with Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and Neil Kinnock, told Beth Rigby on the Electoral Dysfunction podcast she was asked to go to the US in September to talk to Democrats about Labour’s campaign by centrist Democratic thinktank Progressive Policy Institute.
She had already finished working for the Labour Party when she went to the US.
Ms Mattinson was speaking on Tuesday, ahead of the Trump campaign filing a complaint to the US federal electoral commission claiming there had been “interference” in the “form of apparent illegal foreign national contributions made by the Labour Party of the UK”.
It references reports suggesting Labour strategists have been offering advice to Kamala Harris “about how to earn back disaffected voters and run a winning campaign from the centre left”.
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The complaint also mentions a Telegraph report suggesting Morgan McSweeney, Sir Keir’s new chief of staff, and Matthew Doyle, his director of communications, “attended a convention in Chicago and met with Ms Harris’s campaign team”.
Image: Deborah Mattinson has worked with Sir Keir Starmer, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and Neil Kinnock. File pic: Richard Gardner/Shutterstock
Ms Mattinson, who no longer works for Labour, said following the party’s landslide victory somebody she knew from the Progressive Policy Institute “got in touch with me…and said they would really like me to go over and share lessons learned with some of their colleagues in the Democrats”.
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“I said, ‘fine’,” she added.
She said the thinktank funded that, including focus groups and polling “to understand who their hero voters were”.
“And that was what I did, that was what I took over there and shared with other Democratic organisations, with pollsters, with strategists on their side,” she said.
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Ms Mattinson said nobody from her team saw anybody from the Harris campaign, “but we talked to people that are working with them”.
She and those with her went over in September, in the week of the first and only debate between Ms Harris and Mr Trump, “so they were all down in Pennsylvania doing the debate”.
The strategist added the Progressive Policy Institute “was set up to collaborate between like-minded parties around the world, and that’s what they do”.
She said she is worried about what the impact of a Trump victory could be. “I’m worried about what that means for centre left parties around the world.”
Sir Keir has insisted his relationship with Mr Trump has not been jeopardised following the accusations of interference by the former president’s campaign.
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The prime minister said on Tuesday he had “established a good relationship” with Mr Trump and said Labour Party volunteers “have gone over pretty much every election” but “in their spare time”.
The Labour Party has insisted it is not funding the travel or accommodation for activists.
Federal election rules stipulate foreign volunteers cannot spend more than $1,000 (£770) helping candidates.
A Labour Party spokesman said: “It is common practice for campaigners of all political persuasions from around the world to volunteer in US elections.
“Where Labour activists take part, they do so at their own expense, in accordance with the laws and rules.”
The chief rabbi has described the BBC’s response to anti-IDF chanting at Glastonbury as “belated and mishandled” – as the punk-rap duo involved, Bob Vylan, said the UK government needed to talk about its “criminal inaction”.
Sir Ephraim Mirvis said “vile Jew-hatred” had been aired at the Somerset music festival and it was a “time of national shame”.
Confidence in the BBC’s “ability to treat antisemitism seriously” has been brought to a “new low”, he said in a post on X, adding that “outright incitement to violence and hatred” appeared to be acceptable if it was couched as “edgy political commentary”.
Ordinary people had not only failed to see incitement “for what it is” but had cheered it, chanted it, and celebrated it, he said. “Toxic Jew-hatred is a threat to our entire society,” he added.
Bob Vylan, posting a new statement on Instagram on Tuesday, said they were “not for the death of Jews, Arabs or any other race or group of people”.
Rather, they were for the “dismantling of a violent military machine” – the Israel Defence Forces.
Bob Vylan chanted “death to the IDF” at Glastonbury. As many as 95% of the IDF are thought to be Jewish.
In their statement, the group said they were a “distraction from the story” and that whatever “sanctions” they received would also be a distraction.
Their US visas have been revoked and United Talent Agency, their US representatives, have dropped them.
Image: Bob Vylan with their MOBO award in London in November 2022. Pic: Reuters
Referring to the war in Gaza, they claimed the UK government does not want them to ask “why they remain silent in the face of this atrocity”, “why they aren’t doing more to stop the killing” and “feed the starving”.
They added: “The more time they talk about Bob Vylan, the less time they spend answering for their criminal inaction.
“We are being targeted for speaking up. We are not the first, we will not be the last, and if you care for the sanctity of human life and freedom of speech, we urge you to speak up, too.”
It has emerged that Tim Davie, the BBC’s director-general, was at Glastonbury when the duo led chants of “Death to the IDF” which were broadcast live.
The prime minister’s spokesman, asked if the PM had confidence in Mr Davie, said Sir Keir Starmer had “confidence in the BBC”, adding: “The position of the director-general is a matter for the BBC’s board.”
Speaking in the Commons, Culture Secretary Lisa Nandy said “accountability” was important and it was something she had “impressed upon the BBC leadership”.
She added: “When you have one editorial failure, it’s something that must be gripped. When you have several, it becomes a problem of leadership.”
The cabinet minister said she’d called Mr Davie after Bob Vylan’s set had been broadcast to find out why it had aired, and why the feed had not been cut.
“I expect answers to these questions without delay,” she said.
Meanwhile Dame Caroline Dinenage, chair of the culture, media and sport committee, has written to Mr Davie in relation to the corporation’s Glastonbury coverage.
The committee has said the letter asks about editorial and decision-making processes and whether consideration was given to broadcasting with a delay. It also asks about staffing levels at the festival and contingency planning.
Image: Lisa Nandy, the culture secretary, has claimed there is a ‘problem of leadership’ at the BBC. File pic: PA
Avon and Somerset Police has begun a criminal investigation and is reviewing footage of both Bob Vylan and Kneecap’s performances at Glastonbury.
The force said a senior detective had been appointed – and it had been contacted by people from around the world.
“We… recognise the strength of public feeling,” it said.
During Kneecap’s set, one member suggested starting a “riot” outside his bandmate’s forthcoming court appearance, before clarifying that he meant “support”. Liam Og O hAnnaidh, also known as Mo Chara, is charged with a terror offence.
Image: Moglai Bap and Mo Chara of Kneecap performing at Glastonbury. Pic: Reuters
Bob Vylan had been due to tour the US before their visas were revoked.
US deputy secretary of state Christopher Landau said action had been taken “in light of their hateful tirade at Glastonbury, including leading the crowd in death chants”.
“Foreigners who glorify violence and hatred are not welcome visitors to our country,” he added.
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During Bob Vylan’s set, the duo performed in front of a screen that showed several messages, including one that claimed Israel’s actions in Gaza amounted to “genocide”.
The war in Gaza began after Hamas militants attacked Israel on 7 October 2023 and killed 1,200 people and took about 250 hostage.
Israel’s offensive in Gaza has led to the deaths of more than 56,500 people, according to the Hamas-run health ministry, which does not differentiate between civilians and combatants.
Media watchdog Ofcom has said the BBC “clearly has questions to answer” over the live stream from Glastonbury.
A BBC spokesperson said: “The director-general was informed of the incident after the performance and at that point he was clear it should not feature in any other Glastonbury coverage.”
The broadcaster respects freedom of expression but “stands firmly against incitement to violence”, they said.
They added: “The antisemitic sentiments expressed by Bob Vylan were utterly unacceptable and have no place on our airwaves…
“The team were dealing with a live situation, but with hindsight we should have pulled the stream during the performance. We regret this did not happen.”