Kristen Shilton is a national NHL reporter for ESPN.
There’s something special about Hockey Hall of Fame Induction weekend.
It happens every year right when the weather turns fully into fall mode, when the leaves are changing, the clocks have gone back and a chill in the air signals the new NHL season is in full swing.
That stretch of days is firstly about celebrating another incoming class — this year, it was players Natalie Darwitz, Pavel Datsyuk, Jeremy Roenick, Shea Weber and Krissy Wendell-Pohl, along with Colin Campbell and David Poile in the Builders category.
The festivities also allow individuals from around the hockey world to congregate and discuss greater topics pertaining to the NHL at large, and what’s on their radar for their coming months.
And, of course, there’s theories about who will be on the Hall of Fame list a year from now.
We’re diving into just a few of the subjects swirling over the past several days in this latest Overheard edition.
Predictions for the HHOF Class of 2025
NHL GMs are used to seeing their decisions dissected, and often find disagreements. So it’s an exercise in fun to play pretend voter on the Hall’s selection committee and share who they would add to its hallowed ground.
“Joe Thornton would be top of my list for next year’s group,” one GM said. “Duncan Keith, too.”
“I would love to see [Carey] Price get the call right away,” an assistant GM said. “Also [Alexander] Mogilny has waited long enough.”
The first three names — Thornton, Keith and Price — are all first-year eligible for the Hall in 2025. Mogilny hasn’t gotten a call since his NHL career ended in 2006.
It’s always a fine line balancing which players — male and female — deserve the handful of spots available in each cycle. Consider Mogilny, who played over 1,000 games in the league, won a Stanley Cup and is a member of the Triple Gold Club (Olympic Gold, World Championship Gold, and a Stanley Cup) that has only 30 members. Even that hasn’t enticed the selectors to put Mogilny in — yet.
He’ll have stiff competition in 2025 given who can qualify.
Thornton officially retired in October 2023 after last playing for the Florida Panthers in 2021-22. He ranks 14th all-time in NHL points (1,539), making him one of just 15 players to crack the 1,500-point mark and one of just 14 to gather 1,000 assists. Thornton’s longevity in the league — 24 seasons — is also impressive. He has a Hart Trophy to his name, and is a one-time league scoring champion, as well as an Olympic gold medalist, World Cup champion and World Junior champ.
Keith hung up his skates in July 2022 as a three-time Cup champ with the Chicago Blackhawks, having earned one Conn Smythe and two Norris Trophies. He’s also a two-time Olympic gold medalist with Canada.
Price won’t technically be retired until his contract with the Montreal Canadiens expires in 2026, but he hasn’t played a game since 2022 due to lingering injury. Price spent 15 seasons in Montreal before the injury set in, is the winningest goaltender in the franchise’s history, won a Hart Trophy (as one of just seven goaltenders to ever earn that award), a Vezina Trophy, a William M. Jennings Trophy, one Lester B. Pearson Award and one Bill Masterson Trophy. Price never did hoist a Cup, but he did earn goal medals with Canada at the World Juniors, World Cup and Olympics.
Other first-timers with potential to receive votes are Boston Bruins goaltender Tuukka Rask, six-time Norris Trophy finalist Zdeno Chara and long-time Anaheim Ducks captain Ryan Getzlaf, each of them with a list of accomplishments worthy of consideration.
Mogilny isn’t the only one who’s been biding their time for the Hall call. Jennifer Botterill (a three-time Olympic gold medalist and five-time world champion), Cassie Campbell-Pascall (two-time Olympic gold medalist and six-time world champion), Meghan Duggan (Olympic gold medalist and seven-time world champion) and Pekka Rinne (a four-time Vezina finalist and one-time winner) all have the necessary accolades to make it in.
And all were mentioned by agents, former players and executives as ones to watch out for when next year’s class is eventually revealed.
NHL expansion buzz
The league’s official party line is that expansion is not top of mind, and there is no pressing need to enter new markets.
However, it’s no secret the NHL intends to keep adding, in time, to its numbers with at least another team or two over the next several years. And why not? According to the latest report from Sportico, NHL clubs have never been more valuable, and that allows the NHL to ask for an even greater expansion fee (perhaps well surpassing the $650 million Seattle doled out in 2021). The league also has receipts for now strong their expansion teams are out of the gate: Vegas won a Stanley Cup in its sixth season; the Kraken were a playoff team by season two; and Utah — a relocation club, but playing in a new market — is off to a fine start in its new surroundings.
Now, where might the NHL explore new digs? The league isn’t going to expand for the mere sake of it just to get burned in the long term by something lucrative in the short. It would seem the NHL almost certainly is eyeing locations in the United States as opposed to Canada, though.
There’s no doubt the league would want to re-establish a team in the Phoenix area at some point to continue hockey’s growth in the southern states. A few other cities mentioned by the people we spoke to were also the usual suspects — namely Houston and Atlanta.
“We know those cities can support multiple major sports teams,” one executive explained. “There’s a foundation of interest in both locations in bringing [the NHL] there too, and that wouldn’t exist unless [potential owners] believed the fan base would get behind an NHL team. So you’ll keep hearing the same places again and again.”
One agent’s impassioned soliloquy about putting a team back in Quebec City was undeniably stimulating — “the history, from the team itself to the fans there; you do [expansion] the right way and how could they go wrong?” — but of course that city’s past financial issues (the Nordiques were eventually moved to Denver) and the relatively small population (500,000 versus over six million in the Greater Atlanta area, and 2.3 million in the Houston area) does hinder Quebec City’s opportunity (its proximity to clubs in Montreal, Ottawa and Toronto doesn’t help, either).
And despite two former Atlanta teams — the Flames in 1980 and Thrashers in 2011 — having relocated, NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly has expressed optimism as recently as last year that previous problems with that market could be “overcome” in a second go-around.
There’s not a set figure in mind for how many teams the NHL will eventually get to, but the league won’t keep expanding forever. Beyond just location considerations, execs caution against “diluting” the sport in any way with teams lacking enough talent to compete at the highest level. The league itself doesn’t seem concerned about that possibility, though, and is convinced there is plenty of depth out there to keep the game evolving.
Who will win the 4 Nations Face-off?
This upcoming tournament is up for grabs.
That’s the prevailing wisdom around the forthcoming 4 Nations Face-off event, where the USA, Canada, Sweden and Finland will battle it out in the first international hockey affair of its kind since the 2016 World Cup.
And despite the popular notion that a winner will come down to Canada or the USA, don’t sleep on Finland or Sweden to emerge as champions.
“Everyone might want it to be USA-Canada in the end,” one exec said, “but just look at who the Swedes and Fins have in their lineups. You’re not just jogging through those teams. It’s going to be fun watching how each roster actually matches up.”
Beyond just pondering who could emerge victorious, there were a few conversations that repeatedly cropped up. For example, would Canada make room for Connor Bedard? He’ll be part of that country’s plans on the ice for at least another decade to come — including at the 2026 Olympics — so could Bedard get the nod over, say, an established Nick Suzuki or fellow upstart in Dallas Stars center Wyatt Johnston? Opinions were split on whether Bedard would ultimately make the final cut, but suffice to say his importance to Canada in the long term is under zero debate.
What is being deliberated is whether Canada’s goaltending will be an Achilles heel, just as netminding appears to be one of the USA’s greatest strengths. In fact, there weren’t many holes anyone could punch in what the U.S. is working with from top to bottom. Given how hot Connor Hellebuyck has been to start this season, the way Jake Oettinger has come into his own, the potential of Jeremy Swayman and the possibility even of Thatcher Demko — that group could be the real difference-maker.
One point of debate for the U.S. was whether Tage Thompson or Cole Caufield would find their way into the offensive plans. Both have been projected as the team’s potential extra skater, and each brings a unique skill set that would complement the country’s attack — but the verdict likely depends on who else the U.S. taps to line up ahead of that 13th forward.
One Hockey Hall of Famer — chiming in anonymously — is positive that no matter who the U.S. puts on the ice, they will be the team to beat in the tournament.
“There is no huge weakness there,” he said. “Show me where the USA doesn’t have undeniable depth.”
Sweden could have it’s own concerns about how to fill out the third and fourth lines. Do they prioritize veterans or youth, not just in who makes the roster but where they line up? One exec was particularly bullish on seeing Leo Carlsson — Anaheim’s second overall pick in 2023 — take a significant role for the Swedes.
“Carlsson’s an exciting player that’s not talked about enough as it is,” he said. “Highlighting him now and for what he means for Sweden [going forward] is a big thing.”
There’s also the question of whether Gabriel Landeskog — who’s been sidelined the last two seasons following knee surgery — will be available to Sweden for the tournament. Colorado’s captain suffered a “setback” recently in the recovery process that Avalanche coach Jared Bednar said wasn’t “unexpected” and the team was still “hopeful” Landeskog would return at some point this season. Even if he could play by February, it may not be in Landeskog’s best interest anyway to jump into something like the 4 Nations tournament.
For Finland, there’s enviable center depth available, but their defense being short on star power (outside of Miro Heiskanen) could make corralling high-flying offenses a challenge. The key though is how short the tournament is. One good — or bad — day at the office can make or break the journey for any of these four countries. That’s why excitement for what’s to come does feel genuine, and not only because there hasn’t been a best-on-best showcase like this in years.
“Every country has a lot of great options,” one player noted. “That’s what’s cool about it. I don’t know who will end up going, but you know it’ll be the sort of hockey we have been missing for the last, like, 10 years.”
GLENDALE, Ariz. — For weeks, since his team received the No. 3 seed in the College Football Playoff, Boise State coach Spencer Danielson has heard the gripes about the selection process and that the Broncos didn’t earn their spot in the quarterfinals.
In the wake of a 31-14 loss to sixth-seeded Penn State in the VRBO Fiesta Bowl, Danielson said the Broncos showed they belonged.
“A lot of people counted us out and we were a couple plays away from winning,” Danielson said. “That’s football, though. We could lose to anybody in the country. But I also believe we could beat anybody in the country.”
After Boise State fell behind 14-0 in the first quarter, it seemed as if the game had a chance to turn into a rout, but the Broncos cut the deficit to 17-14 early in the third quarter despite limited production from star running back Ashton Jeanty.
“Hopefully everybody just watches the film,” Danielson said. “That’s been my big message all year: watch the film. Watch the game tonight. They had 387 yards; we had 412. Yes, we didn’t execute. We lost the game. That is what it is but watch our team.”
Danielson lauded his team’s effort to roll off 11 straight wins to close the regular season, culminated by the program’s first back-to-back Mountain West Conference championships.
“There’s been a lot of teams that have said that they should be in it. I’m curious how they played their bowl games,” Danielson said. “To me it’s all about putting the ball down, play the game, whatever they set to make the playoff, that’s on us as coaches and competitors to go get it done.”
Alabama, Miami and South Carolina — three of the teams that just missed the playoff cut — all lost their bowl games.
“With the expansion of the College Football Playoff, all you want is to give teams a chance,” Danielson said. “Everybody knew how to make the playoffs to start the season. There was no gray area.
“We’ve been in playoff mentality since September. We knew after we lost on the last-second field goal in Oregon, we can’t lose again and we didn’t.”
With Jeanty bottled up for most of the night — he was held to a season-low 104 yards — most of Boise State’s production came through the air. Quarterback Maddux Madsen completed 23 of 35 passes for 304 yards, but threw three interceptions. Jeanty also had two fumbles, one of which was lost. Those four turnovers, combined with 13 penalties for 90 yards and a pair of missed field goal attempts, proved to be too costly to overcome.
GLENDALE, Ariz. — As the Penn State players made their way through the tunnel and into the bowels of State Farm Stadium after a historic 31-14 win against No. 3 seed Boise State on New Year’s Eve, 305-pound defensive tackle Dvon J-Thomas had a bounce in his step as he yelled, “Jeanty who?!” before disappearing into the locker room.
Penn State and Boise State had never played each other before Tuesday night’s College Football Playoff Quarterfinal at the VRBO Fiesta Bowl, but the Nittany Lions were all too familiar with No. 2 — Heisman Trophy runner-up Ashton Jeanty, who entered the game 131 yards shy of tying Barry Sanders’ FBS single-season rushing record set in 1988.
“We had it in our mind that, ‘Oh, he’s going to try to break the record on us tonight,'” J-Thomas said, a huge grin across his face as he sat on a chair in a locker room buzzing with celebratory photos and cigars. “That’s not going to happen.”
It didn’t.
Even with defensive end Abdul Carter, who is ranked No. 2 in Mel Kiper’s latest Big Board, sidelined by an undisclosed injury for most of the game, Penn State’s defense stifled Jeanty, holding him to a season-low 104 rushing yards, his first time not rushing for at least 125 yards in a game this season. Jeanty finished 28 yards shy of breaking Sanders’ record.
“I think we did corral him,” Penn State coach James Franklin said, correcting a reporter. “Not ‘sort of.'”
Penn State, which won 13 games for the first time in school history, will face the winner of Notre Dame–Georgia in the College Football Playoff Semifinal at the Capital One Orange Bowl on Jan. 9. The Nittany Lions are two wins away from the school’s first national championship since 1986.
Though Boise State’s running game struggled, Penn State’s flourished with the dynamic duo of Nicholas Singleton and Kaytron Allen. The two combined to rush for 221 yards, the most yards that Boise State has given up to running backs in a game this season. Franklin said it was the first time the program has had two 1,000-yard rushers in a single season since joining the Big Ten.
“Obviously, I’m biased, but I tell everybody we have the two best running backs in the country,” PSU running backs coach Ja’Juan Seider said. “You give them 300 carries a game and their stats will look different, too. I didn’t have to say anything all week. They knew what was at stake. I mean, the kid deserved the praise and credit he got, but I also knew what I had.”
Jeanty finished without a rushing touchdown in a game for only the second time this season; it also happened against Portland State on Sept. 21.
“I think defensively, I think our team was sick of me talking about him,” Franklin said. “I think we got the point across about the respect that we have for that young man and the type of running back he is. Even today, I think our defense would say they have a ton of respect for him and how many tackles he was able to break and how strong he is and the contact balance. He’s an impressive guy. But we’re pretty good on defense. Thought our D-line did a really good job of being disruptive and getting in the backfield. I thought we did a really good job gang tackling. There were a few times where we didn’t wrap like we should have. But for the most part, our defense played lights out.”
Carter left the game in the second quarter, an apparent upper-body injury as he was able to ride a stationary bike and roam the sideline for the rest of the game. During the final two-minute timeout, Carter stood alone on the field near the 45-yard line with a towel on his head, facing the crowd, pumping his fist and cheering along with them as they yelled “P-S-U! Let’s go PSU!”
It was the most Penn State fans got to see him on the field in the second half. Penn State doesn’t release injury information, and Franklin didn’t have much of an update afterward. Though the rest of his team was celebrating in the locker room after the game, Carter went to the trainer’s room.
“We’ll get that checked out and see,” Franklin said. “Obviously, No. 1, the safety and health and welfare of our guys is priority No. 1. But then, I know Abdul will want to play next week and he’ll do everything in his power to play next week, if he’s able to. We’ll find out more. I don’t have a whole lot more information than that.”
Without Carter, Penn State leaned on Amin Vanover, who added 6 tackles, 1 sack and 2 tackles for loss. Defensive end Dani Dennis-Sutton added a sack and 2.5 TFLs. Defensive end Max Granville also helped on third-down situations. According to ESPN Research, Jeanty had 29 yards on nine rushes when Penn State had seven or more defenders in the box. He led the FBS with 1,507 such yards during the regular season.
“It was numbers in the box,” Franklin said. “Obviously, being able to play man coverage also helps with that, because you’re able to drop a safety down there and get an extra man to add numbers.”
This season, Jeanty had averaged 4.8 yards after contact per rush, and in the first quarter, Penn State limited him to an average of 1.1. The Broncos’ 48 rushing yards in the first half were their fewest in a half all season.
“They heard about No. 2 the entire time, so it was like a little edge they had to themselves to make sure that he didn’t take over the game at all,” defensive line coach Deion Barnes said. “They wanted to be known for taking over the game.”
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Arizona State and football coach Kenny Dillingham have agreed to a new five-year contract that will put him in the top tier of Big 12 coaching salaries, sources told ESPN on Tuesday.
Dillingham’s five-year deal includes a “pathway” to extend to 10 years, according to sources. While Arizona law limits state school contracts to five years, sources said incentives give the deal a runway to get to 10 years.
The new deal includes a wide-ranging commitment to football at Arizona State, which won the Big 12 this season and plays Texas in the College Football Playoff quarterfinals Wednesday. It was the school’s first outright conference title since 1996.
The deal will come in concert with the addition of 20 more football scholarships next season, as rosters are set to expand to 105. The deal includes an increased commitment to staff, according to sources, and ASU also plans to be a full participant in revenue share.
Arizona State won the Big 12 after being picked last — No. 16 overall — in the preseason poll. And this significant commitment is indicative of the school’s desire to remain atop the Big 12.
“We are in the national conversation,” said a source with knowledge of the deal. “We want to be committed to give our program the resources to stay in the national conversation and compete nationally for the best coaching talent and recruit the talent to compete at the highest level.”
Dillingham is currently among the lower tier of Big 12 coaches in base salary at $4.05 million. But he has already earned more than $2.5 million in bonuses after leading ASU to an 11-2 season and conference title. The additional bonus money puts him near the top of the league.
That bonus number is expected to climb past $3 million later in the spring with expected academic bonuses. Any wins in the CFP would also yield a significant bonus, as a semifinal and final appearance would each be worth nearly $200,000.
Dillingham famously gave away one of his bonuses — $200,000 for ASU’s ninth win — to members of the support staff. This new deal is expected to give him bonus money to distribute to staff to use at his discretion, per sources, so it doesn’t come from his pocket.
ASU added more than 45% to the football operation budget in 2024 compared to 2023. The program also proactively signed offensive coordinator Marcus Arroyo and defensive coordinator Brian Ward to new three-year contracts in late November to keep its top staff talent intact. Those deals will pay them an average of more than a million dollars annually, which is in the high end for Big 12 coordinator pay.
In 2024, Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy’s $7.75 million salary led all Big 12 coaches, and he ended up taking a pay cut after going winless in league play. Dillingham’s new base salary is expected to be in the top echelon of the league, and there will still be significant incentives for bonuses.
Dillingham is from Scottsdale, graduated from Arizona State and has long called the school his dream job. And that label came years before he got hired. Every move in his career — Memphis, Auburn, Florida State and Oregon — has come with targeting a return to ASU as head coach.
“The fit is so important,” Dillingham said earlier this week. “And me understanding the place here, I think it helped the fit and helped the transition because I just understand what the school and the city is about, and you’re recruiting to the school. So you want people who understand that like you understand it. I think my knowledge of the place definitely helped.”
Dillingham went 3-9 in his first year at ASU in 2023, and the Sun Devils’ turnaround to 11 wins and Big 12 champion has been one of the most remarkable stories in college football. ASU’s league title earned it a bye in the first round of the College Football Playoff.