Steve Wozniak, co-founder of the technology company Apple.
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BARCELONA — Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak criticized the “sledgehammer” approach Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency has taken to cut administrative costs and implement mass firings at federal government agencies.
The Department of Government Efficiency — or “DOGE,” for short — is an initiative President Donald Trump set up to optimize the federal government and cut its administrative spending.
“I definitely think that we should look for inefficiencies in government, but pretty much have a huge department that analyzes bit by bit by bit,” Wozniak told CNBC on the sidelines of a tech conference on Tuesday.
But he added, “Just mass firings … it’s not good for a business to run that way,” referring to DOGE’s deep cuts to jobs at several government agencies.”It’s really to find out what works and what doesn’t, make the changes.”
He noted that, though addressing administrative burdens and red tape in government can be a good thing, it’s a process that should be done “more surgically, with a scalpel instead of a sledgehammer.”
‘Bullying’
Wozniak also accused Trump and Musk of “bullying” over the U.S.’ treatment of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and the Department of Government Efficiency’s mass firings at federal government agencies.
“Elon Musk, I don’t know what got into his head,” Wozniak added. “Sometimes you get so rich at these big companies, and you’re on top — it goes to your head, and you’re the most incredible person in the world and the brightest and you’re going to dictate what others will will do.”
CNBC has reached out to the White House and to Tesla for comment.
Wozniak, who says he has Ukrainian heritage, said that Trump and Musk have mistreated Ukraine and accused them both of being bullies.
“Bullying is the best way to think of it,” he told CNBC. “If you’re in school, the bully is going to force their way on the little guy.”
He noted, “I’ve always favored the little guy over the big guy, and I’ve always favored the consumer of a good over the producer,” he added, in an apparent reference Musk’s electric car firm Tesla.
U.S. relations with Ukraine have soured since Trump took office. American officials have re-established relations with their Russian counterparts — but excluded Ukraine from preliminary talks laying the groundwork for peace. Tensions between Washington and Kyiv recently escalated after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy described Trump as “living in a Russian disinformation bubble.”
Trump then hit back, calling Ukraine’s leader a “dictator without elections.” Zelenskyy won the 2019 presidential vote Ukraine, which has been unable to hold national polls since its invasion.
‘On the wrong side of Elon’
Wozniak said he also suspects he’s been banned from X, the social media platform formerly known as Twitter after several public rants about the quality of Tesla’s vehicles in TV interviews. Musk is the owner of X.
The Apple co-founder said he had not violated any of the social media platform’s rules and has unsuccessfully taken every step to unfreeze his account, which he says has been blocked for the past two to three months.
“Maybe it’s because I was on the wrong side of Elon,” he added.
X was not immediately available for comment when contacted by CNBC.
Wozniak owns several Teslas but says he isn’t a fan of how Musk’s electric vehicles have evolved over time.
“Every step up where they changed things in the car, it got worse and worse and worse, and now it is just miserable for user interface,” he said. “Coming from Apple, user interface, the way you deal with technology, is the most important thing in the world to me. And Tesla is the worst in the world at that.”
Wozniak added that he doesn’t like Tesla’s Full Self Driving or Autopilot driver assistance features, due to concerns over the safety of the systems.
Tesla did not immediately return a CNBC request for comment on Wozniak’s criticisms of the company.
Elon Musk, CEO of SpaceX and Tesla, attends the Viva Technology conference at the Porte de Versailles exhibition center in Paris on June 16, 2023.
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Top proxy advisor Institutional Shareholder Services is recommending that Tesla investors vote against a pay plan for CEO Elon Musk that would grant him nearly $1 trillion more in stock.
The “mega performance equity award” to Musk, designed to retain the CEO long-term, “has an astronomical grant value conditioned upon far-reaching performance targets that, if achieved, would create enormous value for shareholders,” ISS wrote on Friday.
Tesla’s 2025 annual shareholder meeting and proxy vote is scheduled for Nov. 5. The company is scheduled to report third-quarter results on Wednesday.
ISS said that while some shareholders may support the pay plan, “there are unmitigated concerns surrounding the special award’s magnitude and design.”
Musk’s plan, if approved, would be the largest ever awarded to a public company CEO. It could could net Musk up to an additional 12% stake in Tesla, should the company hit a market cap of $8.5 trillion and achieve other goals.
Tesla disagreed with the ISS recommendations.
In a post on X, which is owned by Musk, the automaker accused ISS of missing “fundamental points of investing and governance,” and complained that the advisors had previously “recommended against compensation that shareholders have voted on twice before (and that Elon has already earned), as well as the 2025 CEO Performance Award (where Elon receives nothing unless shareholders win big).”
The company urged shareholders to vote with the board’s recommendations on all proposals on the 2025 proxy.
ISS previously advised investors to reject a “ratification” of Musk’s 2018 CEO pay package, which was worth an estimated $56 billion at the time.
The Delaware Court of Chancery ruled early last year that the 2018 pay plan had been improperly granted by the Tesla board and must be rescinded. The ruling said Tesla hid crucial details from shareholders that they were entitled to before voting, and that Musk had controlled the board.
Musk has appealed that court’s decision to the Delaware State Supreme Court, with opening arguments in the appeal heard by a panel of judges this week.
Representatives for ISS declined to comment beyond the report.
ISS, along with Glass Lewis and smaller peers, can influence how shareholders decide to cast their votes at annual elections. Musk accused ISS and Glass Lewis in 2023 of effectively controlling the stock market because of their influence with passive or index funds in some matters. He also baselessly compared ISS to a terrorist organization.
Musk will be able to vote his own shares in the vote concerning his future pay. He holds at least 13.5% of Tesla’s voting power, according to the most recent available disclosures on his stake. Those holdings alone could be enough to secure approval for the nearly $1 trillion pay package.
In September, Musk added to his ownership of Tesla stock buying another $1 billion worth of shares.
Among other ISS recommendations, the firm also suggested that shareholders should vote against giving Tesla’s board authorization to invest in xAI, the AI company that Musk started in March 2023 but only disclosed publicly in July that year. Tesla has sold tens of millions of dollars worth of its Megapack battery energy storage systems to xAI.
ISS also recommended against voting to reinstate Tesla board member Ira Ehrenpreis, a longstanding and close friend of Musk.
In May, Tesla changed its corporate bylaws to limit shareholders’ ability to sue for a breach of fiduciary duties so that only a shareholder that owns at least 3% of the company’s stock can bring what’s called a “derivative” action. Ehrenpreis presided over Tesla’s governance committee at the time that change was made without a shareholder vote.
A demo setup of racks of AI servers connected with Credo cables, displayed at the Open Compute Summit in San Jose, California.
Credo
In July, Elon Musk posted photos from inside an xAI data center called Colossus 2, which the artificial intelligence startup aims to turn into a massive supercomputing facility in Memphis, Tennessee.
Musk’s pictures, posted to his X feed, didn’t show off the pricey Nvidia racks that are filled with powerful graphics processing units. Rather, he focused on the wires behind the servers, including one image with thousands of neatly organized purple cables connecting the computers together.
Those purple cables are the signature offering of Credo, a 17-year-old Silicon Valley-based semiconductor company whose name rarely gets mentioned alongside the leaders of the AI boom.
But Wall Street has taken notice.
Credo shares have more than doubled this year to $143.61 after soaring 245% in 2024. The company’s market cap, which was about $1.4 billion at the time of its IPO in 2022, now sits at close to $25 billion. Credo is angling to position itself as a key supplier in the trillion-dollar AI infrastructure expansion, and is benefiting as the money flows downstream.
The stock jumped 5% on Friday after analysts at JPMorgan Chase initiated coverage with the equivalent of a buy rating and a $165 stock price. They said the active electrical cable (AEC) market, which Credo pioneered, is on pace to hit $4 billion by 2028, as all the major hyperscalers invest in data center buildouts.
“The industry outlook is supported by increasing deployments from major companies such as Amazon, Microsoft, and xAI as well as broadening adoption, including Meta and more,” the analysts wrote. They predict annualized revenue growth for Credo of at least 50% through 2028.
Revenue in fiscal 2025, which ended in early May, more than doubled to $436.8 million. The company also turned profitable, recording net income of $52.2 million after losing $28.4 million the prior year. Analysts are expecting sales to more than double again in fiscal 2026 to almost $1 billion, according to LSEG.
Credo’s purple AECs cost between $300 and $500 each, depending on bulk discounts and other negotiations, according to an estimate from the 650 Group, an industry researcher. They are sturdy, moderately thick copper cables wrapped in a braided covering with big connectors containing chips on each side.
Much of the excitement around Credo is driven by the AI boom, which to this point has been driven by a handful of hyperscalers that are rapidly building data centers for future expected workloads. Analysts expect $1 trillion in spending on AI data centers by 2030, but any pullback from the major cloud providers or scaling back in OpenAI’s plans could hurt many suppliers, including Credo.
For now, projections are way up and to the right.
Expanding opportunity
Previous servers typically had one or two processors on a motherboard. Individual servers today can have up to eight, and the most powerful AI models require potentially millions of GPUs all working together as one.
Each GPU needs its own connection to the switch, the term for a computer that routes data around the cluster, often mounted on the top of a server rack.
Nvidia’s latest products slot several of these boards together to comprise a system with 72 GPUs. Next year’s fastest racks will have twice as many, and the following year, a Kyber rack will have 572 GPUs, Nvidia says.
“In the past, Credo’s opportunity was one cable per server, but now Credo’s opportunity is nine cables per server,” said Alan Weckel, an analyst at 650 Group. He estimates that Credo has 88% of the market for AECs, which are also made by Astera Labs and Marvell.
Many GPUs are connected by fiber optic cables powered by components made by companies like Broadcom and Coherent. AECs offer an alternative to fiber optic cables. They have chips called digital signal processors on both sides that use sophisticated algorithms to pull data out of the cable, enabling much longer lengths than traditional copper cables. Credo’s longest AEC is seven meters long.
Credo CEO Bill Brennan, who joined the company in 2013, told CNBC that hyperscalers are choosing his company’s cables because they’re more reliable than fiber optic cables. He said customers are trying to avoid what’s called a “link flap,” where one part of an AI cluster goes offline because the optical cable connecting them fails, costing hours of pricey GPU time.
“It can literally shut down an entire data center,” Brennan said.
He said Credo is increasingly working with hyperscalers in the early stages of planning large AI clusters, especially as some designs become denser, allowing more servers to be connected by shorter cables.
“When you connect with these hyperscalers, the numbers are very large,” Brennan said.
Credo’s AEC leadership team, Hal Hawthorne, Don Barnetson, Ameet Suri, and Ryan Cai.
Corey Bentley, Credo
The company doesn’t name its hyperscaler clients, but analysts have cited Amazon and Microsoft as customers. Amazon Web Services CEO Matt Garman posted an image on LinkedIn of the company’s Trainium AI chip racks on Friday that appeared to show Credo’s purple cables.
Credo says it expects three or four customers to make up more than 10% of revenue each in the coming quarters, including two new hyperscale customers this year.
Amazon and Microsoft declined to comment. Meta and xAI didn’t respond to requests for comment.
At a conference for data center professionals in San Jose this week, Credo presented alongside a representative from Oracle Cloud. An example rack of Nvidia GPUs designed by Meta displayed at the show prominently featured Credo’s purple cables.
“Every time you see a new announcement of a gigawatt data center, you can rest assured that we view that as an opportunity,” Brennan told investors on an earnings call in September.
It’s a market that everyone in AI networking is targeting.
Analysts at TD Cowen estimated earlier this month that the market for AI networking chips could be worth $75 billion per year by 2030. Major players include Nvidia and Advanced Micro Devices, which both have their own networking businesses and have the power to dictate which technologies are part of their broader systems.
‘Insatiable demand’
Credo was founded in 2008 by a group of ex-Marvell engineers, who developed chips for a relatively arcane technology called SerDes, which is used for high-speed chip-to-chip connections.
Brennan’s job, when he joined in 2013, was to commercialize the technology. The company raised its first round of venture funding in 2015 from investors including Walden International, which was run by Lip-Bu Tan, now Intel’s CEO.
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The AEC business didn’t take off until the AI boom in the early 2020s, because data centers didn’t yet need its technology, Brennan said.
However, there was early excitement in the air when Musk’s car company came knocking in 2017. Tesla wanted help with its Dojo AI supercomputer and needed chips with more bandwidth than what was available at the time.
Now, Credo is hoping to use its foothold with its active copper cables to branch out into additional product lines, including intra-rack connections, or what’s called “scale-up” networking. The company announced new transceivers and software for optical cables this week.
“You’ve got this market pull like we’ve never had before,” Brennan said. “If you could deliver the next generation right now, it would be consumed. Generation after that, it would be consumed. You’ve got this insatiable demand from the AI cluster world.”
Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff apologized on Friday for making comments in support of President Donald Trump potentially sending federal troops to San Francisco, where his company is based.
“Having listened closely to my fellow San Franciscans and our local officials, and after the largest and safest Dreamforce in our history, I do not believe the National Guard is needed to address safety in San Francisco,” Benioff wrote in a post on X.
The Trump administration recently deployed the National Guard to Portland, Oregon and Chicago, sparking protests and lawsuits and resulting in citizens and immigrants being detained without legal representation.
In a story published late last week in The New York Times, Benioff indicated that he would welcome troops to San Francisco. The company’s annual Dreamforce conference was held in downtown San Francisco from Tuesday through Thursday of this week.
“We don’t have enough cops, so if they can be cops, I’m all for it,” Benioff told the Times.
Benioff faced blowback for his comments from local politicians and other leaders. California Governor Gavin Newsom and San Francisco politicians on Wednesday issued statements and held press conferences to deliver the message that federal troops are not welcome in the city, and that crime is coming down.
Prominent startup investor Ron Conway, who backed companies including Google, Airbnb and Stripe, resigned from the board of the Salesforce Foundation on Thursday. According to the New York Times, Conway told Benioff in an email that their “values were no longer aligned.”
Conway is a longtime Democratic donor who was a member of VCs for Kamala, and donated around $500,000 to at least two funds tied to Kamala Harris’ unsuccessful 2024 election campaign. While Benioff has donated to members of both parties, he has supported Democrats for president, including Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris.
Venture capitalist David Sacks, who is now Trump’s AI and crypto czar, said after the news about Conway that Benioff could join the Republicans. On Tuesday, Sacks, a longtime friend and associate of Elon Musk, was featured with Benioff in an onstage interview at Dreamforce.
“Dear Marc @Benioff, if the Democrats don’t want you, we would be happy for you to join our team,” Sacks wrote on X. “Cancel culture is over, and we are the inclusive party.”
Following Benioff’s initial comment to the Times, Benioff appeared to walk back his comments, writing on X that safety is “first and foremost, the responsibility of our city and state leaders.” However, by that point, Musk and other right-wing figures had seized on his original comments, amplifying them to their audiences.
Musk, who has drawn criticism for his personal drug use, characterized downtown San Francisco as a “drug zombie apocalypse.” And on Wednesday, Trump called San Francisco “a mess,” and suggested possibly sending in the National Guard.
“My earlier comment came from an abundance of caution around the event, and I sincerely apologize for the concern it caused,” Benioff wrote in his Friday post. “It’s my firm belief that our city makes the most progress when we all work together in a spirit of partnership.”
Opposition to Benioff’s initial suggestion also came from Garry Tan, CEO of startup incubator Y Combinator. He wrote on X that “We don’t need the National Guard,” but he used his post to go after liberal local officials and judges perceived as too lenient.