Tesla fans exposes Tesla’s own shadiness in attempt to defend Autopilot crash
A group of Tesla fans and investors has inadvertently exposed Tesla’s shadiness regarding crashes involving Autopilot by attempting to claim that the advanced driver-assist system was not active in a crash test.
It was not only active, but it also disengaged itself less than a second before the crash—a known shady behavior of Tesla’s Autopilot.
Yesterday, we reported on a crash test video that demonstrates the difference between camera-based and lidar-based advanced driver assist (ADAS) systems by famous engineering Youtuber Mark Rober.
The video included a series of tests in which a Tesla Model Y on Autopilot went against a vehicle equipped with an ADAS system powered by a lidar sensor.
The last test was the headline-grabbing one as it tested to see if the vehicles would stop for a Wile E. Coyote-style fake road wall in the middle of the road, but it was simply to illustrate the clear advantage of lidar in this case.
The other tests involving fog and rain where lidar outperformed Tesla’s vision-based system were obviously the more relevant and newsworthy tests.
I thought it was simply a well-made video that illustrated the difference between vision-based systems, like Tesla’s, and lidar-based systems, which are more commonly used by companies delivering self-driving technology and now even regular ADAS systems.
But I was surprised to see my X feed inundated with Tesla fans calling me “fake news” for posting it.
The accusations started with an account named “AI Drivr” who is part of a group called “Rebellionaires”, which help “Tesla all-ins investors”. They claimed that “Autopilot wasn’t even turned on during the test”:
They also claimed that I ignored this fact because I wanted “a good anti-Elon article”.
They even got my article on the video “community noted” (since removed, but I have a screenshot here):
The only problem for them is that Autopilot was turned on during the test as clearly shown in the video below.
Rober accelerates to the test’s set speed of ~40 mph. You can see he tried to double-tap the stalk but sort of misses the second, though he quickly does it again, and you can see Autopilot turns on.
It’s true that Autopilot disengages a fraction of a second before the crash when it is impossible to stop it:
From the video, it is clear that Autopilot is engaged, and neither the ADAS system nor the automatic emergency braking system activated to avoid the accident.
However, Autopilot appears to automatically disengage a fraction of a second before the impact as the crash becomes inevitable.
It would still count as an “Autopilot crash” as crashes that happen within 5 seconds of Autopilot being engaged count as Autopilot crashes. The community note was eventually removed from my article this morning, but AI Drivr and his “Tesla all-ins” never issued a retraction to their defamatory comments.
The funny thing is that I missed that Autopilot disengaged at the last second, but the attacks from Tesla investors pointed it out and actually exposed video evidence of a shady practice from Tesla that has been reported in the past.
In NHTSA’s investigation of Tesla vehicles on Autopilot crashing into emergency vehicles on the highway, the safety agency found that Autopilot would disengage within less than one second prior to impact on average in the crashes that it was investigating:
“On average in these crashes, Autopilot aborted vehicle control less than one second prior to the
first impact.”
This would suggest that the ADAS system detected the collision but too late and disengaged the system instead of applying the brakes.
Now, it looks like the Rober video has caught this behavior on camera.
There are many issues with the way Tesla reports or doesn’t report ADAS data. As we previously reported, Tesla went out of its way to avoid reporting data to the California DMV about its autonomous driving tests.
Furthermore, Tesla has been abusing NHTSA’s self-driving crash redaction policies. The automaker is required to report all crashes where Autopilot or its “Full Self-Driving” systems are involved, but it has consistently had all important details redacted from the reports.
You can download the report here, where you can see that all the important data from Tesla crashes and almost all instances are fully redacted, which is not the case for most other automakers.
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The major electric bicycle brand Velotric has just launched its newest model, the Velotric Breeze 1. Part commuter, part cruiser, the Breeze 1 is a fast yet comfortable e-bike intended for those who want a relaxed riding style without sacrificing performance.
Most cruiser electric bicycles are considered to be more of a laissez-faire endeavor, but the Velotric Breeze 1 is hoping to crank things up a notch with fast speeds and high-tech features.
Replacing the traditionally large and swoopy frame is a more accessible step-through design that comes in two sizes to fit a larger range of riders. But while the frame may look different than a classic cruiser, the pedal-forward geometry and swept-back cruiser handlebars definitely evoke true cruiser vibes.
That geometry, including the adjustable angle handlebars, helps give the Velotric Breeze 1 a more upright and relaxed ride.
But don’t think that just because the Breeze 1 is a relaxed ride, it can’t still bring the performance. A 750W motor offers up to 28 mph (45 km/h) of speed in unlocked mode, though the bike comes with a 20 mph limit right out of the box. To open up Class 3 speeds, users will need to use the settings menu in the color display, where a plethora of other parameters can also be adjusted.
A 48V 13.4Ah battery provides 643Wh of battery capacity, or enough for a claimed maximum range of 75 miles (120 km) in the lowest power pedal assist mode. There are also 15 levels of pedal assist and the ability to choose between the torque sensor or the cadence sensor to activate that pedal assist (and of course throttle mode, for those who don’t want to pedal at all).
While torque sensors are generally more highly praised for their ability to offer near-instantaneous power delivery and more natural feeling riding, some people prefer a cadence sensor since it can be used more like a foot throttle, allowing minimal effort from the rider. By offering the option to choose between the two, Velotric is giving everyone the opportunity to ride the way they prefer.
The battery is IPX7-rated, meaning it can be submerged in up to three feet of water. The rest of the bike is IPX6-rated, allowing owners to pressure wash the bike without worry of water getting inside. Like all of Velotric’s electric bikes, both the battery and the entire bike are UL-certified.
The Velotric Breeze 1 also includes Apple FindMy location tracking, punchy hydraulic disc brakes, bright LED lighting including turn signals, easy-rolling 27.5×2.2 urban tires, a Shimano 8-speed derailleur, and is even rather lightweight for a cruiser e-bike at just 48 lb (21.7 kg).
The seat stay-mounted tail lights are also spread wide on the rear of the bike, allowing the turn signals to function even better as directional indicators for drivers.
The bike lacks suspension, offering a purely rigid fork and frame, but is likely intended for operation on smooth beach paths and other areas without the bumpy terrain that typically begs true suspension.
Priced at US $1,799, the Velotric Breeze 1 was just launched this morning and is already available for order on Velotric’s site. The bike comes in five different colors and two different frame sizes, fitting riders between 4’11 and 6’4″ (150-193 cm).
What do you think of Velotric’s newest e-bike? Let us know in the comment section below, and be on the lookout for our own review of the Breeze 1 coming soon!
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ACME stock soars on today’s cartoonishly silly episode of Quick Charge, we watch Tesla Autopilot crash into a wall with a painting on it, make the Elon stans look silly when they point out shady behavior from their fearless leader, and toss out the notion that some franchise dealers might help the troubled EV brand make more sales in red states.
We also cover Toyota as it moves to position itself for global battery dominance by suppling batteries to more than 400,000 electrified Honda vehicles per year, plus an upgraded Xpeng G6 electric SUV that makes everything on this side of the Pacific look positively plebeian. All this and more, enjoy!
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Tesla has already started offering 0% APR on loans for the new Model Y in China, showing a clear sign of weak demand.
We recently reported that Tesla is under increased pressure from competition in China, the world’s largest EV market.
The Tesla Model 3 was recently surpassed in sales by the Xiaomi SU7 in a record short period from starting production. The SU7 not only outsells Model 3 in China, but Xiaomi’s electric sedan has a 31-34-week-long order backlog compared to just 1-3 weeks for Tesla’s.
Last month, Tesla started offering a new RMB 8,000 ($1,100 USD) insurance subsidy and 0% loans on new Model 3 orders.
Tesla didn’t apply these same offers to new Model Y orders because Tesla enjoyed more demand for the vehicle due to the launch of the Model Y refresh, and the production launch limited the supplies.
However, we also noted that reports of more than 200,000 orders for the new Model Y were exaggerated and the current delivery timelines pointed to soft demand for the new Model Y.
We noted that a good indication of when Tesla is running out of the backlog of orders, which was opened in January, for the newly delivered vehicle would be if Tesla brings back financing incentives on the Model Y.
Today, Tesla announced that it was bringing back the 0% interest loans on the base version of the new Model Y:
The Model Y RWD is by far Tesla’s best-selling car in China and Tesla is now offering up to 3 years at 0% for a 30% down payment and some discounted rates for a smaller down payment.
The incentive starts now and up to April 30. Tesla wrote:
If you purchase a Model Y rear-wheel drive version from March 18, 2025 to April 30, 2025 and pick up the car before the order expiration date according to the delivery and payment terms in the order, eligible customers can apply for the following financial preferential plans:
Tesla currently quotes “2-4 weeks” as a delivery timeline for new orders for the new Model Y RWD, and 6-10 weeks for Long Range AWD.
The Long Range appears to enjoy a bit more demand. Tesla even slightly increased the price by RMB 10,000 yuan ($1,380).
Electrek’s Take
It’s important to consider that Tesla is believed to be selling a mix of RWD vs AWD around 3 to 1 or even 4 to 1. Therefore, any change in pricing and subsidized loans to the Short Range RWD would have a massive impact on Tesla.
I have to say, I’m surprised. I suspected Tesla would have some issues selling the new Model Y in the second half of the year after some excitement for the new version wore off and competition like the Xiaomi YU7 would arrive, but I didn’t think it would come so fast.
Even if this is because Tesla was able to ramp up production of the new version faster, which could mean more deliveries in Q1, the fact that they are already discounting them is a terrible sign of demand.
I didn’t have high hopes for Tesla’s prospects in China in 2025, but even I thought this would not come for another 3-5 months.
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