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A video came out last week comparing two approaches to autonomous vehicles: cameras and LiDAR. The video was fun, as YouTube videos are wont to be, but the fallout from it has been anything but fun, with pretty much everyone missing the point of the video in the first place.

The video was posted by YouTuber Mark Rober, who typically does science & engineering related stunts. It was essentially a comparison test between Tesla’s camera-only autopilot/FSD system and LiDAR systems, with the LiDAR vehicle running Luminar’s system.

The experiment tested whether the cars could react to seeing a child in the road in six circumstances: standing, running into the road by surprise, fog, rain, bright lights, and standing behind a comical Wile E. Coyote style wall with a picture of a road painted on it.

Clearly, one of these things is not like the others. Five of the tests gave us potentially meaningful results about the world around us, and the sixth was just for fun.

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The test results showed the LiDAR doing better overall, primarily due to its better performance in fog and rain. But each vehicle produced impressive results on some of the tests – like the child jumping out in front of the car and the bright lights tests, both of which seemed quite difficult (the latter especially for a vision system).

But even in the rain and fog tests, these were quite biblical levels of rain and fog. For more realistic light fog or lighter rain, the cameras likely would have fared better.

There are a few other downsides of vision-only, such as that it can have trouble looking into lights (though it did well in the bright light test), and Tesla has in the past had a hard time with crossing trucks or overpasses being hard to distinguish from billboards, both of which can be solved with the ranging functions of LiDAR or radar.

So all told, these results track with the technical limitations of cameras when compared to LiDAR. Since cameras are passive and LiDAR is active (sending out laser pulses to reflect off of objects), LiDAR is able to “see through” certain things that cameras can’t.

And this is a debate which EV fans have heard plenty about – it’s the fundamental difference between Tesla’s approach and the approach of just about everyone else. Tesla is going vision-only, but most other companies are using a hybrid approach with some mix of vision, LiDAR, radar, ultrasonics, etc.

Tesla actually did used to have sensors other than vision, as early Tesla cars had radar in addition to cameras. But CEO Elon Musk directed the company to remove radar (over the objection of engineers) because he figures if humans can drive with two eyes and no lasers, cameras should be able to do the same. (He isn’t alone, though – Andrej Karpathy, Tesla’s former head of AI and a well respected person in the field, agrees that vision-only is the right approach).

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So the tests showed us that LiDAR has some capability that vision doesn’t, but we already knew that. What are the benefits of vision-only?

First, there are clear advantages on cost and complexity, because you need less sensing equipment. LiDAR has been expensive, though costs are dropping rapidly, so this may be less of a factor going forward.

Also, LiDAR sensors used to be huge spinning rigs attached to vehicles, but now they often take the form of a “taxi bump” that looks a bit like a taxi light on the top of the car, just above the windshield – but this still does restrict the design of a vehicle and a lot of people don’t like the look.

Second, vision-only could potentially make for a simpler software solution because you don’t have to reconcile the input from multiple sensing methods to figure out the reality in front of you.

This is something that held Tesla back in the early days of vision + radar, because there were a lot of false positives and negatives from weird situations (e.g. curved metal objects like soda cans could look bigger than they should, stationary vehicles were hard to distinguish, etc.). While the data was more robust because there were multiple sensing methods, it was proving itself harder to interpret.

And, while it’s not an inherent benefit of vision-only, the specific benefit for Tesla is that the company has a LOT of vision data it can use for training. This is a big advantage that it has over every other company by several orders of magnitude, since millions of Teslas have been driving around collecting data for years now, whereas companies like Waymo only have a few hundred cars.

So, we know a bit about the differences in technology, their strengths and weaknesses, and the long-time industry debate that motivated this test. Nothing seems all that unreasonable about what we’ve heard so far, and the test turned out about as expected. There’s still an open question over what the best path forward is, though the general consensus is that more sensing data is better than less, and that Tesla is making a risky move with its vision-only system.

So, why so much drama?

Okay, well, it’s the internet. So that’s reason number one. Everyone else here is chasing the same thing Rober chases: views. And so that’s probably the only thing we need to say, alright, article over, moving on.

…. But no, really. The actual drama is over the differentiation between “Autopilot” and “Full Self-Driving,” and over the behavior of Teslas when activating or deactivating the system, specifically on the headline “Wile E. Coyote” test.

Most discussion has focused on this particular test, because, well, it’s the most fun one. Rober is one of the most popular YouTubers on the planet, after all, so he should know a thing or two about how to make a compelling video (and the intro sentence of the video is quite a doozy):

As Rober said in the very first line of the video, he had his Tesla on Autopilot, not Full Self-Driving, during this test.

Some criticism has focused on the title of the video, which is “Can You Fool A Self Driving Car?”, suggesting that the test would use Tesla’s “Self-Driving” system.

These are two separate systems, and FSD is more sophisticated than Autopilot. However, Autopilot has long colloquially been referred to as self-driving (often to the chagrin of Tesla defenders), and while Tesla does refer to FSD as “self-driving,” it very much isn’t. Both of the systems are classed as “level 2,” which means the driver is still responsible for the vehicle at all times, even though FSD can be activated in more situations than Autopilot. And many more Teslas have Autopilot than FSD, so it makes sense to test the more common one.

Luminar’s LiDAR can be “self-driving,” insofar as there are level 3+ systems that use Luminar’s sensing technology (such as Mercedes’ DRIVE PILOT).

So the title is not technically incorrect, does use similar colloquialisms in both cases, and is, after all, a youtube video, and we’re all hopefully aware of how YouTube titles need to be crafted to fit Google’s algorithm and hopefully can get beyond the title and into the literal first frame of the video for the more accurate description of what’s happening here.

And we’ve covered a final criticism before, which is a screenshot showing that Rober didn’t have the system active in the video. This is previously-documented as “normal” Autopilot behavior, where the system turns itself off about a second before a definite crash. The screenshots were taken during this second. Rober also responded mentioning that the video used different takes to keep it compelling, and posted the full uncut footage on Twitter.

Another criticism focuses on the subsequent stock surge seen by Luminar (LAZR). The company’s stock went up from 5.05 to 8.35 over the course of the week after the video, a rise of 65%. This has raised some eyebrows, but I expect that the main explanation here is that prior to the video, only pretty dedicated EV/self-driving folks knew about Luminar, and now it’s been exposed to people associated with the most traded stock on the planet for several years running, TSLA. This is naturally going to drive a ton of volume to a small stock (with ~0.03% of TSLA’s market cap).

We’ve also seen others trying to recreate the video, with more success for the Tesla.

But these criticisms focus mainly on the Wile E. Coyote test, which everyone acknowledges is not a realistic situation. That test was for the youtube video – the real meat of it was the other 5 tests that actually could happen in the real world.

And even on those 5 tests, people are getting overexcited about the differences shown. The fog and water were both significantly heavier than what would most often be experienced in real life. In more “real world” weather circumstances, a camera may have worked plenty well enough (assuming the cameras aren’t obscured by water or condensation – which is certainly an issue). And if the inclement weather is as bad as shown in the video – maybe it’s time to stay home (or, uh, head straight to the hurricane evacuation center).

All in all, it felt like a fun test for a YouTube video, which described technology in a simple way to a crowd that hadn’t heard about it, was generally accurate about the strengths and weaknesses of the compared systems, but just overstated a lot of things “for content.”

There’s a discussion to be had there about content requiring more and more extreme stunts these days to be compelling, but the level of the reaction has gone well overboard. But then, that’s to be expected for anything on the internet, especially about Tesla.

And the discussion over which approach is correct will continue – companies like Luminar think that LiDAR is superior, and Tesla thinks cameras are enough. Time will tell who’s right, but most professionals in the field tend to place their bets on the former, rather than the latter.


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In the Electrek Podcast, we discuss the most popular news in the world of sustainable transport and energy. In this week’s episode, we discuss Trump’s dumb new auto tariffs explained, Tesla being in the crosshairs of retaliatory tariffs, the new Nissan Leaf, and more.

The show is live every Friday at 4 p.m. ET on Electrek’s YouTube channel.

As a reminder, we’ll have an accompanying post, like this one, on the site with an embedded link to the live stream. Head to the YouTube channel to get your questions and comments in.

After the show ends at around 5 p.m. ET, the video will be archived on YouTube and the audio on all your favorite podcast apps:

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Nikola founder Trevor Milton pardoned after $1.8m bribe to Trump (Updated)

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Well, here’s a weird one. We got a press release in our inboxes claiming that Nikola Motors founder Trevor Milton, who was convicted of defrauding investors of hundreds of millions of dollars, has been issued a full pardon for his crimes.

Update: This article has been updated to include confirmations from media of the pardon, to acknowledge the $1.8 million in payments Milton and his wife gave to a pro-Trump PAC, and with comments from Mr. Trump in a press conference.

In case you need a refresher, Trevor Milton was the founder of Nikola Motors who was found guilty of fraud due to false statements he made to investors in the runup to production of Nikola’s zero emission trucks.

He was sentenced in December 2023. His sentence included four years in prison, seizure of property, a $1 million fine, and three years of supervised release after serving the sentence.

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The verdict and sentence related to false statements that Milton made to the public about progress with his company’s electric trucks. In particular, one situation involved a faked video of Nikola’s “One” hydrogen truck in which the truck was shown running when, in fact, it was just rolling down a hill.

Despite all this, Nikola got new leadership and did end up making battery and fuel cell electric semi trucks – we took multiple rides in them (they were pretty good, to be honest), and visited one of their fueling stations.

But it all wasn’t enough to keep Nikola from going bankrupt last month.

Fast forward to yesterday and we got a very weird press release in our inboxes – which we sat on for a little while, since it felt sketchy.

The press release came from “Trevor Milton Media,” and is highly praiseful of Milton, and also ends with an ad for an upcoming documentary. It claims that Donald Trump, also a convicted felon, has issued a full pardon to Milton. Milton also made a social media post announcing that he had gotten a personal phone call from Mr. Trump telling him about the pardon.

However, the Justice department operates a handy website cataloguing pardons – and weirdly enough, Milton isn’t on there. The website does mention an action from March 25th, so it *is* possible that it’s not updated and this will be added later – we would not be surprised by a lack of organization from anything associated with Mr. Trump.

But, whitehouse.gov also has a list of executive actions, and that’s been updated all the way to today, March 28, the day after this pardon happened. It includes an item from March 26, a pardon of Devon Archer, which is also listed on the Justice department’s pardon website as having happened on March 25.

Further, the pardon website includes no acknowledgement of pending cases for anyone named Trevor Milton, under the “search for a case” function.

And the last entry on the case against Trevor Milton is a letter from March 14th detailing the appropriate amounts of restitution – totaling at least ~$676 million – for parties defrauded by Milton.

Then, after sitting on the story for a couple hours, we saw that other outlets had reported it with the caveat that “Milton says” he’d been given a pardon – with some hoping that it’s a hoax. Reuters stated at the time that “The White House and Nikola did not immediately respond to requests for comment,” but all of this happened well past end of day, when people weren’t around to comment (nobody picked up the one call we made, either).

Finally, today New York Times, AP and others now say that the White House has confirmed this, but it still has not been posted to any official catalogue of pardons. It has also been reported that Trevor Milton gave $920,000 to Mr. Trump’s political campaign (or $1.8 million combined with his wife) and was represented in this case by Pam Bondi’s brother.

Update: Mr. Trump was asked his thoughts on the pardon in a press conference, and instead of stating his own thoughts (because, as usual, he doesn’t have any), he said that it was “highly recommended by many people,” but acknowledged that he “doesn’t know [Milton].” Mr. Trump also acknowledged that one of the reasons he supports a pardon is because Milton “liked Trump” and “supported Trump.”

Electrek’s Take

Well, we were right to think this was sketchy, but while we originally thought it could have been a weird publicity stunt of some sort, it looks like this is just the standard pay-for-play sketchiness that happens when a convicted fraudster is squatting in the White House.

The weirdness of the press release we got does warrant examination, though.

Much of it rails against the justice system in general, and against the Southern District of New York in particular – the district in which Milton was found guilty of federal crimes, and the same state where Mr. Trump was found guilty of falsifying business records, violating state law.

Milton’s press release argues that his case is similar to Mr. Trump’s, with both of them being victimized by the court system. It states “The striking similarities between Milton’s case and those brought against President Trump highlight systemic issues within the justice system, particularly within the Southern District of New York.” This seems like clear angling at Mr. Trump’s vanity.

The press release also name drops specific US attorneys and claims that their prosecution was flawed. This could be similar to a tactic which Mr. Trump has used before (and his ally Elon Musk), where they have publicly called out defenders of the law for doing their jobs in an apparent attempt to get them to back down or compromise their efforts.

It also seems quite similar to a proposed tactic by another corporate criminal, Sam Bankman-Fried. Fried had planned to “Go on Tucker Carlsen [sic], come out as a republican” in an attempt to angle for a pardon, again playing on the vanity, credulousness and love of fraud shown by the idiot-in-chief. Too bad Fried’s timing was off, but Milton been luckier here.

And then, in the last line of the press release, we get to a pretty funny statement – it ends with a link to a trailer for a documentary which purports to exonerate Milton, thus trying to use this news to get publicity for the upcoming video. Kind of strange that someone would need to release a documentary making the case for exoneration when one has supposedly already been exonerated, isn’t it?

So, for these reasons, we initially thought that this pardon didn’t actually happen. And it still isn’t mentioned on the pardon site, but then again disorganization is just as unsurprising as corruption when it comes to the convicted fraudster who is currently squatting in the White House (despite the Constitution having a clear legal remedy for this national crisis).

And now, in exchange for just under $2 million in bribes, Milton might be able to skip out on the hundreds of millions in restitution he owes to regular people – or at least delay it for a while until civil cases happen. What a return on investment. We’ve crossed the Rubicon, people.


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Get ready to see Lucid’s new electric SUV finally hit the streets. Lucid Motors (LCID) is quickly ramping up Gravity SUV production as it prepares to resume deliveries by the end of next month.

Lucid Gravity SUV deliveries will resume in April

Lucid celebrated the “celestial arrival” of the Gravity SUV on Thursday night outside of its flagship studio in the heart of New York City’s Meatpacking District.

The electric SUV was showcased to attendees and onlookers in an extravagant event, which even featured a surprise performance from Cautious Clay.

During the event, Lucid’s interim CEO Marc Winterhoff said the company is “nearly finished building all the vehicles that we wanted to build to put them into our studio and for test drives. He added, “And by the end of April, we will resume customer deliveries of the Gravity.”

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Lucid employees told TechCrunch at the event that Gravity SUV production was ramping up at its Casa Grande, Arizona, plant.

After opening orders in November 2024, Lucid delivered the first Gravity models the following month. However, those were for employees, friends, and family.

Earlier this year, the company confirmed that Gravity drivers can charge up at Tesla Superchargers as the first non-Tesla sold with a native NACS port.

Powered by Lucid’s advanced EV powertrain and a 123 kWh battery, the Gravity has an EPA-estimated range of up to 450 miles.

Although it has nearly as much interior space as a Cadillac Escalade (up to 120 cubic feet), the Gravity still moves like a sports car. With 828 horsepower, Lucid’s three-row SUV can sprint from 0 to 60 mph in 3.4 seconds.

The Gravity Grand Touring is the only trim available to order right now, starting at $94,900. Later this year, the Gravity Touring will arrive starting at $79,900. Lucid opened Gravity orders in Saudi Arabia last week and plans to launch it in Europe in 2026 as it expands the brand overseas.

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