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Tesla continues to post videos of its vehicles driving autonomously, with an employee in the driver’s seat, as proof that it is making progress in autonomous driving.

However, there’s one thing that Tesla has never shared, and that’s actual data.

Over the last few months, Tesla has been consistently posting videos of its ‘Full Self-Driving’ (FSD) testing in various countries, as well as videos of owners testing FSD Supervised v13 in their own cars in North America.

When asked for proof of Tesla’s progress toward autonomous driving, CEO Elon Musk often points people to those videos, or he suggests trying Tesla’s FSD Supervised themselves.

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However, this is anecdotal evidence at best. While it can be impressive, it’s not a reliable metric for tracking progress toward Tesla’s promise of unsupervised self-driving in customer vehicles.

At this point, anyone who has experienced Tesla’s latest versions of FSD is fully aware that the system is capable of doing these drives without intervention, which is all those videos prove. Not even the most prominent critics of Tesla’s approach to deploying autonomous driving technologies are denying that.

The real question is how reliably Tesla FSD can perform these drives over millions of miles without intervention.

Tesla has never released any data about that. Never. Not once.

The only data that Tesla releases are the overall mileage on FSD (left) and its quarterly Autopilot safety report (right):

The cumulative mileage is not particularly helpful for anything other than tracking the usage. Regarding the Autopilot safety report, it is marred by problems stemming from the selfreporting crashes and a road type bias, as Autopilot is primarily designed for use on highways.

Tesla also doesn’t differentiate between Autopilot and FSD in its safety report.

We want actual Tesla FSD Data

It’s not perfect, but the only valid metric that Tesla could share is its mileage between disengagements on FSD.

In September 2024, Tesla began releasing monthly AI/self-driving roadmap updates, referencing improvements in the number of miles between disengagements as an important metric to track progress.

Unsurprisingly, Tesla ceased releasing monthly updates after missing several key milestones just two months into starting the monthly updates.

The most telling part of Tesla’s monthly AI update is that it referenced specific improvements in miles between disengagements, for example, a ‘4x’ improvement, but it never shared Tesla’s base data or final miles between disengagements, just the multiple factors of improvement.

In short, Tesla claims to have 4.5 billion miles of FSD data, and it has never shared any. Yet, the monthly reports’ mentions of miles between disengagements prove that Tesla is tracking it. It’s just not sharing it.

Some people would see this as a red flag.

Crowdsource Tesla FSD data

Since Tesla doesn’t share any data, we have to rely on crowdsourced data from FSD users. There’s a dataset with hundreds of thousands of miles, which is a lot fewer than Tesla’s own data, but it is the best available.

Tesla fans and shareholders often dismiss this dataset. Still, Musk himself has publicly positively shared it on two occasions, which suggests that it is at least in the ballpark of the official data that Tesla closely guards.

The dataset currently has 40,000 miles on FSD v13.2.9, the latest FSD update on HW4 vehicles, and miles between critical disengagement currently stands at 342 miles:

Interestingly, the system has been regressing throughout the year.

If we take the average of all the other FSD v13.2 updates, which have over 50,000 miles of data, the system was averaging over 500 miles between critical disengagements throughout 2025:

This actually aligns with Tesla’s own Autopilot safety data, which also showed a regression in 2025.

Several other companies developing autonomous driving technologies have reported miles between disengagements in the tens of thousands of miles.

Ashok Elluswamy, the head of FSD at Tesla, has previously stated that for Tesla to enable unsupervised self-driving, Tesla needs to achieve the average in miles per critical intervention “equivalent of human miles between collision,” which stands at 700,000 miles, according to NHTSA.

Electrek’s Take

I think it’s essential to establish metrics to track progress in general. But on top of common sense, as someone who bought FSD and was promised it would become unsupervised self-driving, I think I’m owed a way to track progress beyond “just look at this anecdotal video evidence.”

After dozens of missed deadlines to deliver on what I bought, Tesla expects us to simply trust them.

I know that Tesla is concerned about the media and naysayers interpreting the data in a negative light, such as the regressions we are seeing, but that’s part of the game. Tesla itself admits that it’s a “two steps forward, one step back” kind of development.

They are trying to deploy a potentially life-saving technology, but it is also a potentially super dangerous technology. We need ways to track progress.

The lack of transparency is a red flag.

Tesla literally posted monthly reports for two months before giving up, and those reports didn’t even have valid trackable data.

Again, the videos are only impressive if you know nothing about FSD. I know that FSD can perform those drivers over a few miles, even over a few hundred miles, without intervention. No one is questioning that.

But it needs to do it consistently over hundreds of thousands of miles, and we can’t track progress toward that with these videos. Period.

Until then, it’s all vaporware.

This is coming from someone who bought FSD and believes that if Tesla were developing FSD without selling unsupervised self-driving to customers and using it to sell cars by claiming things like it turns Tesla’s vehicles into “appreciating assets”, it would be a celebrated product and Tesla would be seen as a leader in developing autonomous driving technologies solely on computer vision.

However, this is not the world we live in.

We live in a world where Tesla has been selling “Full Self-Driving” with the promise that it will become “unsupervised” for up to $15,000, and it has been claiming that it is on the verge of happening every year for the last six years.

Share the data or shut up about it.

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For the last few weeks, we’ve been running a sidebar survey about how much Electrek readers think it would cost to add EV charging systems to their homes. After receiving over twenty-four hundred responses, here’s what you told us.

In our previous survey, we asked readers why they chose to install solar panels at home. In the recap, many of our commenters mentioned having their systems systems pull double duty — charging home backup batteries and topping off their electric cars. That got us thinking: as more and more first-time EV owners look into the many benefits of home charging, how much do they expect to pay for home charging?

Based on over 2,400 responses, this is what you told us.

What do you expect to pay for home charging?


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The most positive surprise was that more than a third of Electrek readers who responded to the poll already had 240V outlets in their garage, so they expected to pay effectively $0 – their homes are EV ready now!

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Of the remaining 64%, 44% were fairly evenly split between a relatively straightforward ~$500-1,000 wiring job with a few wiring or panel upgrades while only about 18% expected to spend over $1,000 due to having an older home, a detached garage, or for some other (apparently pricey and/or inconvenient) reason.

Navigating the questions


EVSE installer; via Qmerit.

Just like you would for home solar, we’d recommend getting a quote from several installers before making a decision. One of our trusted partners, Qmerit, offers a quote-sourcing service called PowerHouse. The service scans pricing from thousands of completed electrification installations across North America to provide the best quotes that take regional variability into account and work with homeowners to “bundle” chargers, installation, and even batteries.

America has arrived at an inflection point in which all of the technical, policy and financial elements are in place to support a societal shift toward whole-home electrification. Now what’s needed is a comprehensive way to assemble these complex elements into a simple, financeable, home-energy retrofit that makes it easier to implement.

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Qmerit says its new bundling program can flag the potential for federal, state, and local utility incentives like the ones we’ve covered from Illinois utility ComEd and others that can reduce or even eliminate the upfront costs of home installations for many.

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Following a lawsuit brought against the California Air Resources Board (CARB) by major heavy truck manufacturers over California’s emissions requirements, CARB has struck back with fresh lawsuit of its own alleging that the manufacturers violated the terms of the 2023 Clean Truck Partnership agreement to sell cleaner vehicles.

Daimler Truck North America, International Motors, Paccar and Volvo Group North America sued the California Air Resources Board in federal court this past August, seeking to invalidate the Clean Truck Partnership emissions reduction deal they signed with the state in 2023 to move away from traditional trucks and toward zero-emission vehicles (ZEVs). The main point of the lawsuit was that, because the incoming Trump Administration rolled back Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) policies that had previously given individual states the right to set their own environmental and emissions laws, the truck makers shouldn’t have to honor the deals signed with individual states.

“Plaintiffs are caught in the crossfire: California demands that OEMs follow preempted laws; the United States maintains such laws are illegal and orders OEMs to disregard them,” the lawsuit reads. “Accordingly, Plaintiff OEMs file this lawsuit to clarify their legal obligations under federal and state law and to enjoin California from enforcing standards preempted by federal law.”

After several weeks of waiting for a response, we finally have one: CARB is suing the OEMs right back, claiming that the initial suit proves the signing manufacturers, “(have) unambiguously stated that they do not intend to comply.”

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Peterbilt Model 589; via Peterbilt.

In its lawsuit, CARB argues that monetary damages alone would not make the people of the State of California whole as far as damages are concerned, citing that the stated goal of the 2023 Clean Truck Partnership was, “to achieve emissions reductions that cannot be measured strictly in financial terms,” according to ACT-News.

The agency is asking the court to compel the truck companies to perform on their 2023 obligations or, failing that, to allow CARB to rescind the contract and recover its costs. A hearing on the truck makers’ request for a preliminary injunction was held Friday, with another court date set for November 21, when CARB will seek to dismiss the case brought forth by the truck brands. The outcome of these cases could shape how state and federal government agencies cooperation on emissions rules in the future.

You can read the full 22-page lawsuit, below, then let us know what you think of CARB’s response (and their chances of succeeding) in the comments.

SOURCES: CARB; via ACT-News, Trucking Dive.


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New national law will turn large parking lots into solar power farms

Starting this month, parking lots in South Korea with more than 80 spaces will be required to install solar canopies and carports. But, unlike similar laws that have been proposed in the US, this new law doesn’t just apply to new construction – existing lots will have to comply as well!

South Korea’s Ministry of Trade, Industry and Energy announced in August that it has prepared an amendment to the Enforcement Decree of the Act on the Promotion of the Development, Use, and Diffusion of New and Renewable Energy to the effect that all publicly- and privately-owned parking lots in the Asian country with room for more than 80 vehicles will be compelled to add solar panels to their lots in a move designed to proactively expand renewable energy and create more solar and construction jobs.

In addition to creating jobs and working to stabilize the local grid with more renewable energy, the proposed solar canopies will offer a number of practical, day-to-day benefits for Korean drivers, as well.

The shaded structures will protect vehicles from heavy rain, snow, and the blistering summer sun — keeping interiors cooler, extending the life of plastics and upholstery, and even helping to preserve battery range in EVs and PHEVs by reducing their AC loads (and, of course, provide charging while the cars are parked).

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To their credit, Ministry officials absolutely get it. “Through this mandatory installation,” one unnamed official told Asia Business Daily, “we expect to expand the distribution of eco-friendly renewable energy generation facilities while providing tangible benefits to the public. By utilizing idle land such as parking lots, we can maximize land use efficiency. In addition, installing canopy-type solar panels can provide shade underneath, offering noticeable comfort to people using parking lots during hot weather.”

The new rule was approved in late September, and is expected to go into effect later this month, with new installation projects set to begin immediately.

It could work here


Solar carport; by Standard Solar.

South Korea is proving that an idea like is practical. Here in the US, we’re proving that out, too – the Northwest Fire District in Arizona partnered with Standard Solar to build a conceptually similar, 657 kW solar carport system across 12 parking lots (shown, above) that delivers more than 1.23 million kWh of clean, emissions-free power annually and offsets the equivalent of 185,000 vehicles’ worth of harmful carbon emissions.

That’s just Arizona. In New York, a new initiative to help expand solar into parking lots has more than doubled commercially zoned land where EV charging stations can be sited, “freeing up” an additional 400 million square feet of space throughout the city. 

Sun-rich states like Texas, New Mexico, and Florida could also benefit, and even if we’re “just” adding fresh energy sources to municipal parking, dealer lots, and public schools, we could do a lot to reduce the cost of energy generation for the entire community. And, for what it’s worth, that seems to be right in line with the big reasons why people are choosing to add solar to their homes today.

What do you guys think – would something like this work in the US, or are we too far gone down the sophomoric, pseudo-libertarian rabbit hole to ever dig our way out? Let us know your take in the comments.

SOURCE | IMAGES: Asia Business Daily, via LinkedIn; Standard Solar.


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