Rivian unveiled the R2 – and the surprise R3 – yesterday, and after getting back and having some time to digest the event, I’m here to talk about a lot of smaller details that I learned which didn’t get mentioned on the livestream.
The rest of the Electrek crew caught the livestream and kept you up to date in our live watch party and articles you can find on our R2 launch news hub.
But I headed down the coast to the venue itself, in beautiful Laguna Beach, California, to be on hand for the reveal.
The event was held at the Rivian South Coast Theater, a historic theater that had fallen into disrepair, which Rivian renovated and turned into a retail and event space.
And then… Rivian changed it up again to turn it into a space for the car unveiling, which had a whole new stage and screen set up, bleachers for media to stand/sit in, turntable for the cars, and so on.
And just from the very beginning of the event, Rivian started getting the details right. The stage looked great, good lighting, and the presentation actually started on time (that’s not something we’re used to in the EV world…).
But what really matters here are the cars, and Rivian didn’t miss the details there either.
One thing I was worried about with the shift from R1 to R2 is that the necessity of getting costs down would mean a lot of the “neat little things” about the car would get cut. The R1T has a lot of cool features like the bluetooth speaker, flashlight, gear tunnel, and so on. I thought maybe we would get one or two “headline neat features,” and the rest would give way to being just a normal well-made SUV.
So imagine my gradually rising surprise levels when, after the main presentation, they continued to reveal more and more neat things that I wasn’t expecting, and that weren’t mentioned during the livestream.
For example, we all saw the slide-down rear glass, which is cool enough on its own – it will reduce buffeting when the windows are down, and allows for loading very long objects into the car, especially when combined with the fold-down rear and front seats (chief designer Jeff Hammoud mentioned hauling 16-foot-long baseboards).
But beyond the rear glass, there’s a small “flip-up table” which you can reach into the window and pull up, giving you a small interior shelf to put things on – kind of like a miniature tailgate or the edge of a truck bed. Here’s a photo of what it looks like deployed – though the tailgate was up, so you’ll have to turn your head sideways to get a sense of what it will look like when its down.
Okay, so we can have a tiny tailgate party. That’s kinda cool, and surely people will find some sort of interesting use cases for that.
But a much cooler feature, with to me much more immediately apparent uses, is the slide-out cargo floor.
Like many EVs, there’s a large well underneath the rear cargo floor for more storage. Most EVs have a removable cover that functions as a flat cargo floor, but the R2 takes that to another level. The cargo floor slides about a foot out of the vehicle, and seems like it can hold a reasonable amount of weight:
This seems like a super useful feature to me. If the shelf is like a mini-tailgate, this is closer to a full-fledged tailgate. You can sit on it (though I’d be careful not to sit on the very edge…), pull out some camping chairs and use it as a table, or, as Rivian suggested, it would be useful for changing a baby’s diapers.
Better yet, it fixes one of the few problems I have with the Rivian, which is that the frunk, while deep and large, is set rather far back in the vehicle’s already-tall front-end, creating a big lift-over area which makes it hard to lug bulky or heavy items into it. That’s still the case in the R2, but the slide-out shelf in the rear makes it a bit of a moot point, because it seems like it would be really easy to load heavy things into.
For an example, I’ve recently had to move an industrial dolly and a portable saw table into the back of a Model Y, and in both situations, there’s always the worry of hitting the back of the car in the process. Having a slide-out tray would significantly reduce this worry, and it would be a lot easier to place the item down and then slide the whole tray into the vehicle.
Going back to those fold-down seats (which have a neat removable headrest, which releases with the press of a button, necessary to make enough room to fold them down), this gives a ton of room for car camping. And the cool thing about camping in an electric car is that you’ve got a lot of energy onboard to power car systems overnight, like HVAC for example. As a result, we’ve seen various electric cars gain a “camp mode” which keeps certain systems on overnight.
Rivian has its own camp mode, with some clever Rivian-only improvements (like auto-leveling with air suspension – which the R2 won’t have). But the R2 camp mode has a neat feature which changes everything about the UI, showing basic data and turning the whole screen red.
This matters because red light has less of an effect on your night vision than other wavelengths of light does. This is why red lights are used in ships at night, or if you ever go stargazing with serious astronomy-types, they’ll only let you use flashlights with red filters on them.
We can imagine this feature might make it to other Rivians as well via software updates, but this is the first we’ve seen of it – on any car, which really shows that Rivian isn’t just thinking about neat features that work for EVs, but how they fit into the specific “adventure” ethos the company is building.
This is also apparent in Rivian’s removable flashlight, a popular feature in the R1 which returns in the R2. It’s always good to have a flashlight handy while adventuring.
But the new detail here is that there’s not just a flashlight, but on the other side in the same spot, there’s another device of similar size which has a USB-C port and can be used as a portable backup battery for devices (as if you’ll ever run out of juice, given that the car has 8 USB-C ports – 2 front, 4 rear, 2 trunk, with a 120V outlet in the trunk to boot). This also stays charged while it’s slotted in the door, just like the flashlight does, and the units are interchangeable from one side of the car to the other.
But also the phone charger has a button on it which allows it to be used as a hand warmer (which, as a native Southern Californian, is something I hear people need when they live in places that get “cold,” whatever that is). So not only did Rivian surprise us with another cool device, but they surprised us with another cool device with an additional use on top of the initial use which already impressed us.
(Note also: the door pockets have been redesigned, with door speakers moved inboard on the car, so that the pockets are now taller and can fit your tall stainless water bottle – and they’re still expandable if you need to fit something a tad too thick in them)
The one arguable miss (depending on how you look at it) is charge port placement for the NACS charge port – it’s on the rear passenger side, rather than rear driver side like on Teslas. This means that, when charging at V3 Superchargers, Rivians may end up causing conflicts (which is why we really need the new V4 superchargers with longer cables).
Rivian had good reasons for this – compatibility with its Rivian Adventure Network (R1s park nose-in, R2s would back in) and with existing owners’ home charger installations, easier charging for those who park and charge on the street, which is common in Europe where the R2 will be launching, and perhaps most importantly cheaper wire harnesses in the vehicle due to placement of components. But we still wonder if it would have been more worthwhile to go through the troubles to place new NACS-only charge port on the front passenger side for better compatibility with the much larger Supercharger network.
A blurry screengrab of the half-second where we saw the NACS port on the R2
Regardless, the net effect of all of these features, in addition to the ones mentioned in the livestream, is a car that just seems eminently usable. Just as I felt at the first Rivian R1 reveal event, it feels like the engineers and designers at the company really get it – they get the benefits that electric powertrains can bring, they get how people use their cars, they get how to make features that don’t just “surprise and delight” but actually have practical applications.
Most cars only have one or two of these neato features, the kind that you show your friends while saying “hey, look what this car can do!” This car, however, has enough of them to justify an 1,800-word article (sorry).
And all of that isn’t even about the car I liked most from the showing. I’m a small-car guy (and you should be too), so the surprise small-SUV-crossover-rally-car-hatchback-or-whatever-you-wanna-call-it R3 was extremely exciting to me. I love the form factor, I love that they got their inspiration from ’80s Group B rally cars (complete with funky interior), and I can’t wait to see more details on this vehicle.
There were hints of a few neat hidden ideas on the R3, like a (removable?) storage compartment on the back of the driver’s seat on the R3X and some kind of cool strap-down blanket thingy on the passenger’s seat, but since the doors weren’t open and that car is quite far from production, those will have to wait for another day.
Which brings up an important point – by the time production comes around, there’s always a chance that some of these features will go by the wayside. I already heard speculation that the fold-out rear quarter windows might not make it to production (CEO RJ Scaringe really likes them, but they’re a little redundant with the slide-down rear window), or that they might have to scale back plans for the haptic touch steering wheel knobs (this seems too crucial to the control of the vehicle to me – I bet it stays in, and eventually gets into the R1 too).
But the combined effect of these features is enough to show that Rivian really is at the vanguard of putting new ideas into design on their vehicles, and like other EV startups before them, they seem to be moving at a pace that traditional automakers are going to have a hard time catching up with.
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For the last few weeks, we’ve been running a sidebar survey about how much Electrek readers think it would cost to add EV charging systems to their homes. After receiving over twenty-four hundred responses, here’s what you told us.
Based on over 2,400 responses, this is what you told us.
What do you expect to pay for home charging?
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The most positive surprise was that more than a third of Electrek readers who responded to the poll already had 240V outlets in their garage, so they expected to pay effectively $0 – their homes are EV ready now!
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Of the remaining 64%, 44% were fairly evenly split between a relatively straightforward ~$500-1,000 wiring job with a few wiring or panel upgrades while only about 18% expected to spend over $1,000 due to having an older home, a detached garage, or for some other (apparently pricey and/or inconvenient) reason.
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Following a lawsuit brought against the California Air Resources Board (CARB) by major heavy truck manufacturers over California’s emissions requirements, CARB has struck back with fresh lawsuit of its own alleging that the manufacturers violated the terms of the 2023 Clean Truck Partnership agreement to sell cleaner vehicles.
Daimler Truck North America, International Motors, Paccar and Volvo Group North America sued the California Air Resources Board in federal court this past August, seeking to invalidate the Clean Truck Partnership emissions reduction deal they signed with the state in 2023 to move away from traditional trucks and toward zero-emission vehicles (ZEVs). The main point of the lawsuit was that, because the incoming Trump Administration rolled back Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) policies that had previously given individual states the right to set their own environmental and emissions laws, the truck makers shouldn’t have to honor the deals signed with individual states.
“Plaintiffs are caught in the crossfire: California demands that OEMs follow preempted laws; the United States maintains such laws are illegal and orders OEMs to disregard them,” the lawsuit reads. “Accordingly, Plaintiff OEMs file this lawsuit to clarify their legal obligations under federal and state law and to enjoin California from enforcing standards preempted by federal law.”
After several weeks of waiting for a response, we finally have one: CARB is suing the OEMs right back, claiming that the initial suit proves the signing manufacturers, “(have) unambiguously stated that they do not intend to comply.”
The agency is asking the court to compel the truck companies to perform on their 2023 obligations or, failing that, to allow CARB to rescind the contract and recover its costs. A hearing on the truck makers’ request for a preliminary injunction was held Friday, with another court date set for November 21, when CARB will seek to dismiss the case brought forth by the truck brands. The outcome of these cases could shape how state and federal government agencies cooperation on emissions rules in the future.
You can read the full 22-page lawsuit, below, then let us know what you think of CARB’s response (and their chances of succeeding) in the comments.
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Starting this month, parking lots in South Korea with more than 80 spaces will be required to install solar canopies and carports. But, unlike similar laws that have been proposed in the US, this new law doesn’t just apply to new construction – existing lots will have to comply as well!
South Korea’s Ministry of Trade, Industry and Energy announced in August that it has prepared an amendment to the Enforcement Decree of the Act on the Promotion of the Development, Use, and Diffusion of New and Renewable Energy to the effect that all publicly- and privately-owned parking lots in the Asian country with room for more than 80 vehicles will be compelled to add solar panels to their lots in a move designed to proactively expand renewable energy and create more solar and construction jobs.
In addition to creating jobs and working to stabilize the local grid with more renewable energy, the proposed solar canopies will offer a number of practical, day-to-day benefits for Korean drivers, as well.
The shaded structures will protect vehicles from heavy rain, snow, and the blistering summer sun — keeping interiors cooler, extending the life of plastics and upholstery, and even helping to preserve battery range in EVs and PHEVs by reducing their AC loads (and, of course, provide charging while the cars are parked).
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To their credit, Ministry officials absolutely get it. “Through this mandatory installation,” one unnamed official told Asia Business Daily, “we expect to expand the distribution of eco-friendly renewable energy generation facilities while providing tangible benefits to the public. By utilizing idle land such as parking lots, we can maximize land use efficiency. In addition, installing canopy-type solar panels can provide shade underneath, offering noticeable comfort to people using parking lots during hot weather.”
South Korea is proving that an idea like is practical. Here in the US, we’re proving that out, too – the Northwest Fire District in Arizona partnered with Standard Solar to build a conceptually similar, 657 kW solar carport system across 12 parking lots (shown, above) that delivers more than 1.23 million kWh of clean, emissions-free power annually and offsets the equivalent of 185,000 vehicles’ worth of harmful carbon emissions.
That’s just Arizona. In New York, a new initiative to help expand solar into parking lots has more than doubled commercially zoned land where EV charging stations can be sited, “freeing up” an additional 400 million square feet of space throughout the city.
What do you guys think – would something like this work in the US, or are we too far gone down the sophomoric, pseudo-libertarian rabbit hole to ever dig our way out? Let us know your take in the comments.
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