Tesla held its Robotaxi event tonight to introduce a whole new vehicle that will function exclusively as a driverless vehicle. But in addition to the Robotaxi, it also unveiled another robo-vehicle – an autonomous van that can be used for either 20-person mass transit or for cargo hauling tasks.
The “We, Robot” event was primarily expected to focus on the upcoming 2-seat Robotaxi, with an expected update on Optimus, Tesla’s humanoid robot.
We got updates on both of those, with Robotaxis shuttling passengers around the Warner Bros. backlot where the event was held, and Optimus robots serving drinks and handing out goodie bags to attendees.
We didn’t get much information about the van, except that it will be capable of carrying 20 people (though the above photos show only 14 seats), or also be capable of carrying cargo. The configuration we saw was the people-carrying version, and Tesla has put up several photos on its website to see what the interior of the van might look like.
These are just the passenger configuration – we don’t have any photos of the cargo configuration yet. Although the passenger configuration looks to have significant cargo space available (this could certainly be useful for something like an airport shuttle).
Tesla CEO Elon Musk stated that the Robotaxi would be able to get the cost of transport down to around 20 cents a mile, but that the Robovan would take that even further, down to 5-10 cents a mile.
A vehicle like this could be useful for shuttle routes that need frequent pickups (like airport or student shuttles), for municipalities that don’t have enough ridership for a normal 80-passenger bus, and of course for city last-mile delivery in a cargo configuration.
Musk also repeated his line that “the future should look like the future,” which is certainly apparent in the design of the Robovan, which looks kind of familiar…
The design of the Robovan is certainly quite out-there, but given Tesla’s history with out-there concepts, it might actually come to fruition in a state somewhat like this.
However, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a change in ground clearance. It seems doubtful that the perhaps ~1-2 inch ground clearance on the demo vehicle will be particularly useful on city roads….
Unlike the Robotaxi, Tesla did not share a launch date for the Robovan. While Musk said the Robotaxi would be available in the next two years, he gave no date for the Robovan.
Electrek’s Take
One thing that the Robotaxi has been criticized for is its number of seats. While 2 seats is enough for a lot of driving tasks, you’re not going to be able to bring a whole family, or a bunch of friends, etc.
And adding a bunch of 2-seat cars to the road does nothing to reduce congestion, because we’ll still end up with about the same average vehicle occupancy as we have right now – or maybe even less occupancy because you wouldn’t have the occasional 3-5 person vehicle. Which could even mean more congestion.
But the Robovan offers the promise of being able to carry an actual significant number of people, and with its larger capacity, deadhead miles might be reduced as well because it could run hop-on hop-off routes.
I could certainly see this running on any number of smaller shuttle routes that would benefit from frequent pickups. There’s a summer shuttle where I grew up in California which just runs people to and from the beach to help alleviate parking issues, and this would be perfect for that. Or how about the new electric shuttles at Zion National Park.
But like every Tesla promise, this one needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
After all, Tesla plans to change the world in 6 huge ways next year already (Robotaxi, Semi, an affordable EV, next-gen Roadster, unsupervised FSD, and Optimus), and now we have yet another unreleased product to add to that pile. And most of those existing ones have been pushed back multiple times. I guess at least Robovan can’t be pushed back, if it doesn’t have a date yet to begin with.
Tesla also showed a vision of the future it wants tonight, with parks taking the place of parking lots in various urban settings.
Which is all well and good, except that the CEO who presented this vision has recently donated $180 million to a candidate who wants to harm EVs, and who just today said he is “concerned” about autonomous vehicles and would ban some of them from the road if he wins. Odd horse to hitch yourself to, really.
As for the Robovan, we only saw it pull up and park, it didn’t shuttle people around during the night, beyond the initial pul up. The Robotaxi was at least driving people around, albeit in a heavily mapped area at low speeds, rather than in a real world situation with all the unexpected nonsense that comes up.
Funny thing though, I actually think the Robovan might be more possible than Robotaxi from an autonomy perspective, because these sorts of vehicles are more likely to run a set route, and thus can have a more limited operational space which is easier to program for. So it almost seems like it could/should come sooner than Robotaxi, which will need to essentially be SAE level 5 capable (whereas a set route would definitionally be level 4).
And if it does happen (again, big grains of salt here), the more mass-transit-focused nature of this is more exciting to me than Robotaxi. We have to cut congestion and sprawl, so having vehicles that can help to enable this is quite important. For certain cities, where subways or light rail are unfeasible for whatever reason, a mid-size electric shuttle like this could be a fantastic way to clean up the roads.
Now, let’s see if it ever happens…..
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American EV automaker Rivian is expanding across the pond into the UK, hoping to tap into the region’s talent pool in artificial intelligence engineering.
Rivian is a growing American EV brand with expanding office footprints as much as its lineup of unique electric trucks and SUVs. The company is currently headquartered in Palo Alto, California, with its main production facility located in Normal, Illinois alongside plans for a second production footprint about 40 minutes outside of Atlanta, Georgia.
Other US locations currently include offices in Irvine and Carson, CA, Wittmann, AZ, and Plymouth, MI. Outside of the US, Rivian operates out of offices in Vancouver, BC, Canada, Amsterdam, Netherlands, and Belgrade, Serbia.
This morning, Rivian announced its latest international office in London, UK, which will become an AI-centric development hub.
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Rivian’s production facilities in Normal, IL / Source: Scooter Doll
Rivian to open AI Hub in the UK
According to a release from Rivian early this morning, it sees the UK as rapidly becoming a world leader in artificial intelligence engineering, and is looking to tap into that talent pool with the new international office.
While Rivian’s current Autonomy Platform enables drivers to utilize hands-free, eyes-on highway driving, the American automaker intends to continue to evolve such tech to offer greater levels of autonomous capabilities.
Rivian shared that its second-generation EVs were designed with an “AI-centric approach.” As its Gen2 vehicle fleet continues to develop and grow, the automaker has been collecting more and more data to help accelerate the improvements to ADAS technology. Per the company:
Rivian believes the combined strength of its perception platform and in-vehicle data infrastructure will enable it to build a Large Driving Model, unlocking unparalleled understanding of complex driving scenarios and accelerating the path to safer, more capable autonomous features.
Rivian said the future work done at its new UK AI hub will enable its EVs to improve in the future via over-the-air (OTA) updates. Details remain light, but Rivian shared plans to host an “AI and Autonomy Day” later this year and promised to share more about its product and technology roadmap.
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Waev, the company best known for its iconic GEM electric low-speed vehicles (LSVs), just unveiled a brand new lineup of commercial electric carts and LSVs. And this time, they’re not messing around when it comes to utility. Dubbed the Fusion line, these new lithium-ion-powered vehicles include mashups plucked from the worlds of golf carts, street-legal shuttles, and jobsite pickup trucks.
The Fusion lineup includes six different models: three designed for people-moving and three built for utility work. But all six still seem to be aimed squarely at commercial, municipal, and industrial fleets.
Whether that’s running security at a stadium, shuttling guests at a resort, or hauling equipment around a worksite, there looks to be something in the Fusion family that probably fits the bill.
On the people-moving side, Waev is offering 4, 6, and 8-passenger models, all of which feature a flip-up rear seat that converts into a cargo deck, a near ubiquitous feature among modern golf carts and LSVs with rear-facing benches that helps them pull double duty as a light utility vehicle. The feature gives them added flexibility for things like maintenance staff, hospitality transport, or even large campus tours, letting them carry a large number of passengers, yet still be capable of stacking boxes or equipment in the rear.
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The utility versions look a bit different with more muted matte black bodywork, plus come with electrically-actuated hydraulic dump beds, 2-inch ball hitches, and even orange seat belts for jobsite visibility. It’s harder to forget to put on the seatbelt when it’s blindingly orange.
And yes, the Fusion Utility Long Bed basically looks like a pickup truck built on a golf cart chassis, which I find equal parts strange and endearing. But then again, I’m the guy who infamously kicked off the great American mini-truck trend a few years ago when my hilarious little tiny-truck went viral, so maybe I’m a bit biased when it comes to fun little utility vehicles.
All Fusion models are available in both “cart” and “LSV” configurations. The carts are speed-limited to 19 mph (30.5 km/h) and come with serial numbers, making them street-legal only in limited areas that have passed local ordinances permitting golf carts to use public roads.
The LSV versions get full VINs, meet federal low-speed vehicle safety standards (meaning over a dozen regulations on manufacturing standards and safety equipment), and can be driven up to 25 mph (40 km/h) on public roads where LSVs are permitted by state law.
Waev is sticking with lithium-ion power here, specifically a 105Ah Marxon pack that’s both heated and insulated for cold-weather use. That’s a big step up from the old-school lead-acid setups still found in some fleet carts (and, if we’re being honest, still offered on some of Waev’s other vehicles).
The company claims to offer automotive-grade manufacturing processes and reliability on its vehicles, along with Bluetooth diagnostics and a smartphone app for managing the fleet.
Other upgrades include LED lighting, back-up cameras, AVAS pedestrian alert systems, and standard three-point seat belts for all passengers. Optional extras like ladder racks, beacon lights, and upgraded tires make it even easier to tailor each unit to the specific job at hand.
The Fusion line slots into Waev’s already broad family of low-speed EVs and fleet vehicles, including the steel-bodied Taylor-Dunn utility vehicles, Tiger heavy-duty tow tractors for airports and warehouses, and the classic GEM lineup that’s been a staple of street-legal fleet transport since the late ‘90s.
It also looks like Waev isn’t just trying to sell the hardware here – it’s pushing hard on full-service fleet support, too. The company is leaning on an extensive dealer network across the U.S., Mexico, Canada, and Australia, and all Fusion models are available through Sourcewell and Canoe procurement programs for simplified public-sector purchasing.
One big thing we’re not seeing, though, are the prices. It’s more of a “contact us for a quote” situation, which means exactly what you think it means. We’ll try to learn more, but don’t expect to make it out of the lot without a measurably lighter wallet.
Electrek’s Take:
This is the kind of product line that probably won’t turn heads in your local grocery store parking lot, but it’s exactly the kind of quiet EV revolution that’s transforming fleets behind the scenes. Lithium-ion golf carts and LSVs that can tow, haul, and shuttle without the noise or emissions of gas engines? That’s a win for everyone –from municipal fleets to private campuses.
And frankly, I’m here for the golf cart pickup truck vibe. Street legal, work-ready, and just weird enough to be cool. The fact that the tailgate seems to swing all the way down and doesn’t lie flat like a normal pickup truck’s gate was a swing-and-a-miss by the designers – I don’t know how that got through – but everything else looks great! And hey, I guess I could always add a pair of tailgate cables if I wanted.
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Tesla’s retro-futuristic diner with Superchargers and giant movie screens is ready to open, and I have to admit, it looks pretty sick.
This project has been in the works for a long time.
In 2018, Elon Musk said that Tesla planned to open an “old school drive-in, roller skates & rock restaurant at one of the new Tesla Supercharger locations in Los Angeles.” It was yet another “Is he joking?” kind of Elon Musk idea, but he wasn’t kidding.
7 years after being originally announced, the project appears now ready to open:
Musk said that he ate at the diner last night and claimed that it is “one of the coolest spots in LA.” He didn’t say when it will open, but Tesla vehicles have been spotted at Supercharger and people appear to be testing the dinning experience inside.
A Tesla Optimus Robot can be seen inside the diner on a test rack. It looks like Tesla might use one for some tasks inside the diner.
I think it looks pretty cool. I am a fan of the design and concept.
However, considering the state of the Tesla community, I don’t think I’d like the vibes. That said, it looks like Tesla isn’t prominently pushing its branding on the diner.
You can come and charge there, but it looks like Tesla is also aiming to get a wider clientele just for dining.
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