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The government will offer compensation to Post Office Capture victims – while refusing to rule out blanket exoneration for those convicted.

In an exclusive interview with Sky News, Post Office minister Gareth Thomas said his department is “working at pace” and is committed to providing redress as quickly as possible.

Capture accounting software, which predates the scandal-hit Horizon IT system, was used by sub-postmasters in their branches between 1992 and 1999.

Under Horizon, hundreds of sub-postmasters were wrongly prosecuted between 1999 and 2015.

Earlier this year the government-commissioned Kroll report found there was a “reasonable likelihood” that Capture caused accounting losses and errors, although the report did not make any conclusions about the safety of criminal convictions.

A number of sub-postmasters were convicted of theft and false accounting while using the Capture IT system in the 1990s.

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Gareth Thomas said ministers are going to offer redress to victims

“This is the first time the government has confirmed it is going to offer redress,” Gareth Thomas told Sky News.

“We recognise that there were significant problems for some sub-postmasters, at least some of whom used the Capture software, and had real difficulties in their branches.

“We’re now going to work at pace across government, and with the Post Office and sub-postmasters directly, to try to understand how many people were affected and how we can offer redress most effectively going forward.”

He insisted that once as much information as possible had been received from the Post Office the government would “be able to work through on a [redress] scheme”.

When asked repeatedly, however, if “blanket exoneration” was off the table, Mr Thomas refused to directly answer.

He said instead that the “first stage” was to “work with the Criminal Cases Review Commission (CCRC)”.

Protestors outside the Post Office Horizon IT inquiry. Pic: PA
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Protesters outside the Post Office Horizon IT inquiry. Pic: PA

Mr Thomas added: “It’s the reason why we’ve asked the Post Office to go through all its records just to try and help us understand firstly how many people were affected in total by using Capture software, how many people saw problems in their branch, and also to try to understand how many people were then convicted.”

“That’s got to be the first stage,” he continued. “We’re working at pace and expect the Post Office to be working at a pace to make those judgements.

“And we will get that information to CCRC as soon as we can – and we’ll make a judgement from that.”

Hundreds of sub-postmasters who were wrongly convicted of stealing because of faults in the Horizon system, introduced after Capture, were exonerated through legislation earlier this year.

Sky News has previously revealed that the CCRC is looking into a number of Capture cases but said that the older the case, the more difficult it could be to determine.

Mr Thomas admitted he was also “worried about the level of information” available “given the length of time since Capture was used”.

He emphasised the Post Office had been instructed “as a matter of urgency” to look into its records and pass on as much information as possible.

The minister also insisted that the government has “a responsibility to work as fast as we can… and we are determined to do that”.

On potential redress schemes, the minister also said the government has learned from past mistakes on compensation.

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Mr Thomas said some Horizon sub-postmasters had not been involved “early enough” in the process previously.

“That’s certainly something we don’t want to happen this time round,” he said.

“I’m now actively talking to sub-postmasters and legal representatives so that we can get redress offered ultimately as quickly as is feasible.”

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How people are coping with the floods: Carpets, furniture and food destroyed as homes deluged under feet of water

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How people are coping with the floods: Carpets, furniture and food destroyed as homes deluged under feet of water

People whose homes have been destroyed by the floods sweeping across parts of the UK over the past couple of days have been telling Sky News how they coped with the deluge.

In Lincolnshire, where a major incident has been declared, Terry, from Grantham, showed a Sky crew the aftermath of the deluge in his home, which was left under two feet of water.

“Everything’s gone,” he said, adding that he was “devastated”.

The first sign of trouble came at lunchtime on Monday, when his wife woke him and said there was water coming in [to the house], and “within a few minutes, the whole house was flooded”.

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Terry told us he’s ‘devastated’

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They rushed their belongings and pets upstairs, he said, as he revealed the damage to the flooded living room and kitchen, where the water mark was above a power socket.

Terry said the kitchen, where the floor was covered in sludge, smelled of mud and sewage, and their furniture and carpets were wrecked.

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They have no electricity and the food in the cupboards and freezer was “completely ruined”.

Graham Johnson, who lives in a boat with his wife and dog, in the village of Barrow upon Soar in Leicestershire, was in the pub on Monday night, before the water started to rise “rapidly”.

People living in a local caravan park were moved as a severe flood warning was issued.

Graham Johnson, from Barrow upon Soar in Leicestershire, feared he would lose his boat home
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Graham Johnson, from Barrow upon Soar in Leicestershire, feared he would lose his boat home

PABest A man is rescued from the flooding at a caravan park near Barrow upon Soar, Leicestershire. Weather warnings for snow and ice are in force across much of the UK after severe flooding and snow caused travel disruption and school closures. Across England, there are also 198 flood warnings, meaning flooding is expected, and 300 flood alerts, meaning flooding is possible. Picture date: Tuesday January 7, 2025.
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A man is rescued from the flooding at a caravan park near Barrow upon Soar, Leicestershire. Pic: PA

Mr Johnson said he had gone out “for a couple of pints as usual and, the next thing we know, bingo”.

The couple feared their boat home was about to be swept towards the bridge.

“That’s our pride and joy, where we live, and we didn’t want to lose it,” he said, as he praised the “fantastic” emergency services, who rescued them and their dog after a nervy three-hour wait.

They were two of the 59 people rescued by firefighters in the county, where a major incident was declared and crews were called out to 160 flood-related incidents, the Fire Brigades Union (FBU) said.

Another Leicestershire resident whose home was inundated was Qasim Abdullah from Loughborough.

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Pictures taken by the Associated Press show him walking through almost knee-deep water in his living room.

In nearby Quorn, businesses have shut as the main high street has flooded for the second time in as many years.

Two of the pubs in particular have been damaged.

Last year, residents had to launch a crowd fundraiser to help pay for the costs of renovation. Not to mention soaring insurance premiums.

Indy Burmi, who owns a hair salon and restaurant, hasn’t suffered flooding, but said he’s had to close up and cancel all Tuesday’s reservations, as his clients simply can’t get into the village.

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And, with more rain forecast, conditions could get even worse in the short term, while residents worry that an annual battle with rising water is now the new normal.

Elsewhere in the UK, the next danger is from ice forming on untreated surfaces after rain on Tuesday evening, the Met Office has said, as it issued a new warning for northern England and Wales from 5pm until midday on Wednesday.

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Boy, 14, stabbed to death on bus in Woolwich, southeast London

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Boy, 14, stabbed to death on bus in Woolwich, southeast London

A 14-year-old boy has been stabbed to death on a bus in Woolwich, in southeast London.

Police were called around 2.30pm to reports of a stabbing on a bus on Woolwich Church Road near the junction with the A205 South Circular Road.

A boy who police said had received stab wounds was treated by paramedics, but he died at the scene shortly after they arrived.

Officers have launched an investigation into the incident.

No arrests have been made so far but police are appealing for witnesses of the incident on the 472 bus.

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A cordon and road closures were in place as of shortly before 5pm.

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Liverpool hospital declares critical incident over ‘exceptionally high’ demand on A&E amid rising flu cases

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Liverpool hospital declares critical incident over 'exceptionally high' demand on A&E amid rising flu cases

The Royal Liverpool University Hospital has declared a critical incident due to “exceptionally high” demand on A&E and patients being admitted to wards.

The hospital said there had been a spike in people with flu and respiratory illnesses going to emergency departments in recent weeks.

The number of people in England’s hospital with flu quadrupled in the last month, according to NHS data.

A spokesperson for the hospital said it had a “comprehensive plan in place” and was “taking all the necessary actions to manage the challenging circumstances”.

“We are working with partner organisations to ensure those that are medically fit can leave hospital safely and at the earliest opportunity,” they added.

The hospital warned some people would experience delays as it prioritises the sickest patients.

People whose case isn’t an emergency are being asked to see their GP, pharmacy or walk-in centre – or call the 111 service for advice.

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The Royal Liverpool University Hospital is in the city centre and is the biggest hospital in Merseyside and Cheshire.

Declaring a critical incident can happen when a hospital is experiencing exceptional demand, or sometimes if there is a serious problem with staffing levels.

It indicates it can’t function as normal and allows it to take extra measures to protect patients, such as prioritising the most unwell people and getting support from other agencies.

It could last hours, a few days, or weeks if necessary.

A critical incident was also declared on Friday by the NHS Cornwall and Isles of Scilly Integrated Care Board.

It said it had seen almost four times as many inpatients compared with last year and urged people with flu to avoid going to A&E.

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There have been warnings this winter of a so-called “quad-demic”– with flu, vomiting bug norovirus, COVID and RSV circulating at the same time.

The NHS provides vaccinations against three of the four; flu, COVID-19 and RSV (a common cause of chest infection in babies).

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