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Reform’s deputy leader has praised Elon Musk as “popular” and “appreciated” by the British public – as a government minister criticised the tech tycoon for “ridiculous” and “ill informed” comments on the UK grooming scandal.

Speaking to Sunday Morning with Trevor Phillips, Richard Tice defended the owner of X and Tesla as “one of the greatest entrepreneurs in history”.

He said he was content to have Mr Musk, who is considering making a donation to Reform UK, support his party, adding: “He has a great interest in and the politics of this country and in the economy growing.”

It comes in contrast to the stance taken by Wes Streeting, the health secretary, who said he was “not interested” in what Mr Musk had to say on the grooming scandal that took place across a swathe of UK towns and cities more than a decade ago.

Girls as young as 11 were groomed and raped across a number of towns in England – including Oldham, Rochdale, Rotherham and Telford – over a decade ago in a national scandal that was exposed in 2013.

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The following year a report by Prof Alexis Jay revealed the scale of exploitation in Rotherham between 1997 and 2013 – where around 1,400 girls were abused – and the failure of police and social services to intervene.

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It was followed by the statutory Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA), also chaired by Prof Jay, who found in her final report published in 2022 that children were still being sexually exploited by networks in all parts of England and Wales in the “most degrading and destructive ways”.

Mr Musk has suggested that safeguarding minister Jess Philips should be sent to prison for refusing a request from Oldham council for a national inquiry into the instances of child sexual exploitation that took place in the town.

Ms Phillips, the Labour MP for Birmingham Yardley, said that while she recognised the “strength of feeling” over the matter, she believed it was for “Oldham Council alone to decide to commission an inquiry into child sexual exploitation locally, rather than for the government to intervene”.

The tech billionaire has also turned his fire on the prime minister, claiming that while he was director of public prosecutions he failed to bring the “rape gangs” to justice.

He posted on X: “The real reason she’s [Ms Phillips] refusing to investigate the rape gangs is that it would obviously lead to the blaming of Keir Stamer (head of the CPS at the time).”

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Asked about the comments, Mr Streeting said neither Ms Phillips nor Sir Keir needed “lectures” from Mr Musk.

“About the prime minister and about Jess Phillips, these are two politicians who have one thing in particular in common,” he said.

“Before they came into politics they have an actual record of banging up rapists, paedophiles and sex offenders, so they don’t need lectures from anyone else, particularly the Conservatives.”

He said Mr Musk’s comments were “a ridiculous thing to say”, “ill informed” and “not fair on either of their record”.

“I’m not interested in what he’s got to say about this,” he said. “I’m interested in what we’re doing as a government.”

Reform UK and the Conservatives have both called for a national inquiry into the scandal, with Mr Tice claiming there has been a “massive, massive cover up” of a “horrific grooming gangs scandal” by people of “mainly Pakistani heritage”.

“This has taken place over decades and authorities, care workers, police workers, the British establishment, senior politicians,” he told Sir Trevor.

“And may I say, the mainstream media have turned the other way. And there has been a sort of, ‘this doesn’t suit us because we want massive immigration, we want diversity, and this is inconvenient’. So we won’t explore it.”

Mr Streeting said “the reason we’re not doing another national inquiry is because there has already been a national inquiry”.

He pointed to the inquiry led by Prof Jay that reported in 2022 and said victims deserve the “full implementation” of that report, which recommended that institutions that work with children should be required by law to report suspicions of child sexual abuse.

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As well as criticising government figures, Mr Musk has also become a vocal supporter of Tommy Robinson, the far-right activist who is currently serving an 18-month prison sentence for contempt of court.

Mr Musk endorsed the far-right activist and claimed Robinson was “telling the truth” about grooming gangs, writing on X: “Free Tommy Robinson”.

Yesterday at a party conference Reform leader Nigel Farage distanced himself from Robinson, saying the jailed activist was “not what we need”.

Asked about Mr Musk’s support for Robinson, Mr Farage told GB News: “He sees Robinson as one of these people that fought against the grooming gangs. But of course the truth is Tommy Robinson’s in prison not for that, but for contempt of court.”

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Conservative Party pledges £1.6bn ICE-style ‘removals force’ to deport 150,000 illegal migrants a year

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The Conservatives are pledging to create a new “removals force” to detain and remove 150,000 a year as part of a broad plan to tackle illegal immigration to the UK.

Modelled on the “successful approach” of the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency, this new force would be given “sweeping new powers”, and over £1bn in funding.

The pledge is part of the Conservative Party’s broad new plans to stop illegal migration to the UK, set to be unveiled by Kemi Badenoch on the first day of their annual conference on Sunday, where reducing immigration and creating “Strong Borders” will be one of the key themes.

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Speaking to Sky News’ Sunday Morning with Trevor Phillips ahead of her speech, shadow home secretary Chris Philp insisted this is a “detailed and comprehensive plan to get control of this country’s borders”.

However, Ms Badenoch did not provide specifics when asked on the BBC’s Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg where migrants being removed would go, claiming that question was “irrelevant”.

She said: “I’m tired of all of these irrelevant questions about where should they go. They will go back to where they should do or another country, but they should not be here.”

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Pressed again, she added: “They will go back to where they came from.”

The new “removals force” that she will unveil later will replace the existing Home Office Immigration Enforcement (IE) and will be given broad new powers, including being able to use facial recognition without warning in order to spot illegal immigrants.

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It will be given funding of £1.6bn a year, up from the existing £820m a year, to increase the number of removals annually from 34,000 to 150,000 – which would represent “at least 750,000 removals” across a five-year parliament.

The Tories say this increase in funding would come from the closure of asylum hotels and “tackling the wider costs of our out-of-control asylum system”.

Expanding the use of live facial recognition technology is likely to attract criticism from within the Tory Party itself, on the grounds of it being a threat to individual freedom and privacy.

And ICE in the US has been heavily criticised by politicians and the public in recent months, with the agency accused of arresting both legal migrants and US citizens and targeting people based on their race.

The Trump administration has faced heavy criticism and lawsuits for deporting illegal migrants and foreign offenders to El Salvador’s notorious mega-prison, the Terrorism Confinement Center (CECOT), including a man who was wrongly sent there, having been granted permission to remain in the US.

Nigel Farage has said violent UK offenders could be jailed overseas under his plans to cut crime by half. The Reform UK leader named El Salvador as a likely destination, though he said he has not held conversations with officials there and “multiple” partners would be considered.

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In addition to confirming plans to leave the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), announced on Saturday, Ms Badenoch will also vow to fully repeal the Human Rights Act, and leave the Council of Europe Convention on Action Against Trafficking in Human Beings.

This, the Tories say, would “end the legal blocks that allow illegal immigrants, and in some cases foreign criminals, to stay in the UK based on flimsy claims”.

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A radical overhaul of the asylum system would see refugee status granted only to those threatened by a foreign government, and those fleeing conflict or “less tolerant” laws on religion or sexuality would not be eligible, with the party saying “few people will qualify”.

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The plan will also see the immigration tribunal abolished, with all decisions on migration taken by the Home Office with only limited rights of appeal in cases where officials have acted without statutory authority.

Immigration cases will be denied legal aid, with the Tories accusing solicitors of having “defrauded” the UK by “coaching” applicants and arguing there is “no need for lawyers” as people “should simply tell the truth about their circumstances”.

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The plans come as Ms Badenoch faces continued pressure on her right flank from Reform UK, which has already pledged to leave the ECHR and deport up to 600,000 people over five years if it comes to power.

But the party leader said the plans put forward by Nigel Farage’s party are “nothing but announcements that fall apart on arrivals”.

She also said the Labour government offers “failed gimmicks”, adding: “Our Stronger Borders plan is serious and credible and backed by a comprehensive legal analysis. That is the difference the next Conservative government will deliver.”

Kemi Badenoch wants to create a 'Removals Force' modelled on the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency. Pic: Reuters
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A Labour Party spokesperson said: “The Conservatives’ message on immigration is: we got everything wrong, we won’t apologise, now trust us.

“It won’t wash – Kemi Badenoch’s party enabled record high net migration as removals plummeted, opened over 400 asylum hotels and wasted £700 million of taxpayers’ money to send just four volunteers to Rwanda.

“This Labour government is fixing the Tories’ mess by smashing the people-smuggling gangs running the vile small boats trade, closing asylum hotels, deporting foreign criminals and signing international returns deals to bring order to Britain’s borders.”

Hear more about the plans from shadow home secretary Chris Philp, live at the Conservative Party Conference in Manchester on Sunday Morning With Trevor Phillips from 8.30am.

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Data leaked to Sky News shows Tory conference might be set for smaller crowd this year

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Will as many people as last year come to Tory conference? I have a leak that helps explore this – and it reveals the party itself is expecting fewer.

Normally you don’t get any detailed breakdowns of conference data – who is coming and in what category.

But I’ve been shared an early cut of the numbers from this year. What you can see above is a screenshot of the data sent to the party board.

I am told this table is from 11 August and shows the then-current attendance figures which were sent to the Conservative Party board. They revealed numbers due to be coming to Manchester this week, lagging on last year.

You can see that at that stage, there are more than 1,000 fewer members due to come to conference than had been listed in early August 2024.

Supporters at this year's Tory party conference greet their leader Kemi Badenoch. Pic: PA
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Indeed, the party’s target is markedly lower. There are also fewer Young Conservatives, though by a much smaller margin.

However, the number of commercial guests is up on last year, as is donors, known as ‘Treasurer’s Guests’, although the number planning to attend Business Day on Monday is down.

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The ‘Margaret Thatcher 100th,’ a commemoration of her life, is a new event to mark the centenary of the former Conservative prime minister’s birth which is on 13 October.

I’m told the current number of members coming to Manchester is 3,500, although that is calculated on a different basis to these – and includes Young Conservatives.

Another source told me the number of members coming to conference – calculated on the above basis – is around 2,800 but it was not possible to verify that.

A Conservative spokesman said: “This out-of-date report does not reflect the strength of Conservative Party conference 2025.

“There are thousands of members – many new to the party – hundreds of businesses, and many other delegates attending to hear Kemi Badenoch‘s bold new vision for the country.

“This conference the Conservatives will demonstrate they are the only party that can be trusted to deliver a stronger economy and stronger borders for the country.”

In response to the leaked data, Reform UK posted on X, “The Conservative Party is finished.”

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A subdued Tory conference could be a chance for Badenoch to turn her fortunes around – but will she?

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Conservative Party conferences of old were packed out events bustling with ministers, MPs, lobbyists and members.

Roll on just over a year after their biggest defeat ever, and the Tories’ gathering in Manchester, from 5-8 October, will be a more sober affair.

Despite their recent loss, last year’s conference was anything but subdued as it was turned into a hustings for their new leader to replace Rishi Sunak. Cue: a bit of a bun fight.

A month later, Kemi Badenoch was crowned leader. So this conference not only marks a year after that abysmal result but also nearly a year of Ms Badenoch in charge.

A series of policy announcements are expected throughout the conference, with the first today being an eye-catching vow to create an ICE-style “removals force” to tackle illegal immigration to the UK, which follows her pledge to leave the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR).

“Stronger borders” is one of the two key themes of this conference, along with “stronger economy” – slogans set to feature on banners throughout the conference venue.

It is part of her bid to scrape back her party’s position in the polls as Nigel Farage’s continues to lead in the national polls.

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Just three weeks before this year’s gathering, one of her ministers, Danny Kruger, became the first serving Tory MP to defect to Reform.

Eleven former Conservative cabinet members, ministers and MPs had switched to Reform this year ahead of Mr Kruger. Ex-health minister Maria Caulfield defected after Mr Kruger.

Sub-optimal for Badenoch, but an issue she has brushed off, accusing them of “running away rather than solving problems”.

The threat of Reform, which has led the polls for weeks, dominated the Lib Dem and Labour conferences but, if PMQs is anything to go by, there is no guarantee Ms Badenoch will put Mr Farage’s party at the forefront of her two conference speeches.

Ms Badenoch at a farm in September. Pic: PA
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Ms Badenoch at a farm in September. Pic: PA

Rather than just the traditional leader’s speech at the end of the conference, Ms Badenoch will deliver an additional one today, in which she will set out the party’s broad new plan to tackle illegal migration.

Some 34,401 people have crossed the Channel in small boats so far this year, according to PA news agency analysis of Home Office figures, putting 2025 on course to break the record for most arrivals in a single year.

The traditional end-of-conference speech will still take place on Wednesday, as she seeks to grab headlines and cut through the electorate in a way she has failed to do so far.

Also overshadowing the party as they head to Manchester is the High Court ruling that a PPE company linked to Tory peer Baroness Michelle Mone must repay the government £122m for breaching a contract for medical gowns during COVID.

Ms Badenoch said Lady Mone had brought “embarrassment and shame to the party” and should have the “book thrown at her”.

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The Tory leader has faced criticism over her leadership style, initially because she carried out very few media interviews.

But she has said this was because the party was close to bankruptcy when she took over.

“I basically inherited a distressed asset and my first job was to just make sure we didn’t go bust,” she told The Spectator this week.

“Most of my first three to six months were spent on that. I just couldn’t get out there much. The opportunity cost was perhaps not doing much media.”

But she has since failed to unify the party, which was illustrated by another disastrous result in the May 2025 local elections.

And the latest results from a bimonthly YouGov poll, which tracks her performance as Tory leader, show Conservative voters have their lowest opinion of her since she became leader, with 38% thinking she should remain as leader.

The highest number of Tory members (39%) now think she should stand down and let someone else take over – a rise of 10% since July.

So, this conference is an opportunity to get members – and MPs – behind her.

Kemi Badenoch arriving at Conservative Party conference on Saturday. Pic: PA
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One of those MPs who has been unsubtle about his ambition to replace her is shadow justice secretary Robert Jenrick, who lost out to Ms Badenoch in the leadership race.

Ms Badenoch has brushed off his attempts to outshine her, saying many of the views he offers so readily beyond his brief “are my thoughts repackaged”.

“I don’t mind that he says what he thinks,” she told The Spectator.

“The advantage of having a leadership contest is that you’ve kind of already said what you think.

“Repeating it, which is what Rob tends to do, is not new information.”

Robert Jenrick challenged Kemi Badenoch for the Tory leadership. Pic: Robert Jenrick
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Robert Jenrick challenged Kemi Badenoch for the Tory leadership. Pic: Robert Jenrick

Also, days before the conference starts, former Conservative prime minister Baroness Theresa May gave a rare public rebuke of Ms Badenoch after the Tory leader pledged to replace the UK’s world-leading Climate Change Act with a strategy for “cheap and reliable energy”.

Baroness May said she is “deeply disappointed by this retrograde step” and that to row back on the strategy to tackle climate change “would be a catastrophic mistake”.

The Tory conference could be a chance for Ms Badenoch to turn her fortunes around, but she will have to work at getting her MPs – and Tory members (those who are left) – behind her and the party she promised to “renew” and to “prepare over the course of the next few years for government”.

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