Long before Louis Theroux went on his first Weird Weekend, Ruby Wax was chipping away at the shiny coalface of celebrity culture and documenting offbeat US tribes to the delight of the viewing public.
Now the comedian, actress, writer and mental health campaigner says she “can’t get a job on television” and was forced to “reinvent” when her TV career took a nosedive after she turned 50.
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Wax, who is about to embark on her first tour in four years, told Sky News: “I’m grateful I got to do those shows. It’s a job everybody wants. But after 25 years, you think, What else?”
She goes on: “It’s over when it’s over. It was over early for me”.
Open about her mental health battles over the years, and an ambassador for mental health charities MIND and SANE, Wax admits that the pursuit of fame was an addiction of sorts: “I was so interested in fame… Studying what’s the effect of fame on people. Because it’s fabulous to get in a restaurant using your own name, but it’s also a curse because when they take it from you, it’s like coming off a drug.”
Throughout the 90s and early 2000s Wax grilled A-listers, future world leaders and public figures – holding a mirror up to celebrity culture of the decade.
She captured the zeitgeist with her fearless celebrity interviews, chatting to stars including Pamela Anderson, Madonna, Tom Hanks and the Spice Girls.
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And she didn’t just do softball interviews.
More tricky interviewees included Donald Trump (he called Wax obnoxious and kicked her off his private plane, she went on to label it the worst interview she’d ever done); OJ Simpson (Wax had hoped he would confess to the murder of his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson on the show; He didn’t, but later called her on April Fool’s day to tell her “I did it” before adding, “April Fool”); Bill Cosby (he play-acted taking a phone call during their interview, comparing chatting with Wax to “talking to an answering machine you can’t fix”, while she later branded his behaviour “psychotic”) and former first lady of the Philippines Imelda Marcos too.
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Shining a spotlight on the now much talked about topics of celebrity culture and fame, Wax was the first women to front gonzo style documentary interviews and make them a hit in a primetime slot to boot.
Wax on Trump: ‘I hated speaking to him. I found him toxic’
She also did a series looking at American subculture – Ruby’s American Pie – in the late 90s, investigating themes including the Klu Klux Klan (KKK), offbeat religion and porn. Again, all themes in Louis Theroux’s wheelhouse, at around the same time.
But unlike with Theroux, there was no faux-naif front with Wax, she went in full throttle with her brash American approach – which sometimes worked a treat, and other times less so.
On her infamous interview with future president Donald Trump (who was then just a billionaire real estate magnate and presidential hopeful) Wax told Sky News: “I hated speaking to him. I found him toxic.
“I didn’t think I was going to learn anything. I just thought this is a terrible experience, just horrible. And so was Bill Cosby. I didn’t think, ‘I’m going to show the world something’. I just found him repellent, and he frightened me because he is so toxic, and he hated me. So that doesn’t help an interview.”
Trump went on to throw her off his private plane – complete with a gold sink and cushioned bidet. Wax says: “I think I could have handled it better. You don’t see the fear in my eyes, but it doesn’t feel good.”
‘I had to re-invent. I can’t get a job on television’
Despite her own harsh review of some of her interviews, the audience lapped up her no-nonsense approach, and her shows were a hit.
A stalwart of BBC output through the nineties – The Full Wax was followed by Ruby Wax meets…and after a gap of a year or two The Ruby Wax Show followed suit in the early 2000s.
But while Theroux’s shows are on constant re-run, and he’s given this year’s prestigious MacTaggart lecture to industry big wigs at the Edinburgh Television Festival, Wax is largely a stranger to today’s TV schedule.
Her rivalry with the fellow celebrity documentary maker has been well documented, with the pair finally forging a truce of sorts after he interviewed her at end of 2020 as part of his Grounded COVID podcast series.
As for his flourishing career, she says: “I sort of see why Louis carried on, because he played himself and I was playing kind of a character… I turned 50, and that’s against the law. You can only play people who have a terminal disease or are dead when you’re that age. So, I had to re-invent. I can’t get a job on television.”
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However, she admits the modern-day celebrity interview is less attractive than in days gone by.
“I wouldn’t really like to do any more interview shows because you can’t get celebrities the way I could. Now, there’s too much PR and they’re too careful.
“In my day, I could interview them for a week, and that was pleasurable. I’m not like Graham Norton, where you can chew ’em out in 15 minutes. I wouldn’t be good at that.”
But Wax says she would have liked a shot at more cerebral shows too, adding: “I would have liked to do Newsnight. I’m really smart.”
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A woman of many talents, Wax is also a classically trained actor (she spent five years with the Royal Shakespeare Company) and was awarded an OBE for her services to mental health in 2015.
Now with a tour about to start – documenting a search for the meaning of life which ended up in a psychiatric ward – a reinvented Wax admits: “I’m always running.”
Unlike many performers who dread a tour, Wax says: “I like living out of a suitcase and I like meeting new people. I think it’s because my parents were refugees and they knew how to decamp within three minutes. And so, I have that in my DNA. I love it.
Wax’s tour – I’m Not As Well As I Thought I Was – kicks off on 14 September in Brighton, and runs until late November. The book is out now.
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From soaring power ballads to novelty earworms, disco to metal and even “ouija pop”, there’s nothing quite like Eurovision – watched by millions around the world, tuning in to celebrate live music’s weird and wonderful.
Politics has always played a part, despite insistence by organisers the European Broadcasting Union (EBU) that it remains politically neutral.
Countries have pulled out or been banned in previous years – most notably Russia in 2022, just days after the invasion of Ukraine.
But it now seems like Eurovisioncould be facing its biggest political crisis yet.
Image: Yuval Raphael represented Israel at this year’s contest, held in Basel in May. Pic: AP
In the last two years, there has been growing controversy over Israel’s participation, with protests in host city Basel, Switzerland, earlier this year, andMalmo in Sweden when it held the competition in 2024.
Ahead of next year’s ceremony in Vienna, Austria, tensions have risen already.
Earlier this month, Irish broadcaster RTE made an announcement: it will boycott the competition if Israel is allowed to take part. The Netherlands and Spain quickly followed suit, and other countries including Slovenia and Iceland have suggested similar.
It comes amid increasing criticism of Israel’s continued military action in Gaza, launched in response to the attack by Hamas militants on southern Israel on 7 October 2023, which left some 1,200 people dead.
The Eurovision Song Contest Reference Group, the competition’s governing body, has extended the deadline for broadcasters to confirm participation to mid-December. It says a decision on Israel’s participation is pending and that it has “taken note of the concerns expressed by several broadcasters”.
Politics at Eurovision – and why is this different?
Image: Kalush Orchestra won for Ukraine in 2022. Pic: AP/Luca Bruno
What is unfolding now is unlike anything that has come before, says Dean Vuletic, a historian of contemporary Europe and author of Postwar Europe In The Eurovision Song Contest.
“Politics has always been there,” he says. “Countries have always used the contest to send political messages. For example, in the very first contest in 1956, West Germany was represented by a Jew and a Holocaust survivor.
“In recent years, though, things have changed because the European Broadcasting Union has had to make political decisions.”
Vuletic cites Belarus’s exclusion in 2021, after the country had experienced large protests over the disputed re-election of leader Alexander Lukashenko, and its entry was deemed too political.
The following year, Russia was kicked out just a few days after the start of the invasion on Ukraine. The EBU said at the time that Russia’s participation would “bring the competition into disrepute”.
But these are not the first examples of countries being excluded from the competition; this first happened in the early 1990s, when the then Federal Republic of Yugoslavia was banned due to UN sanctions.
“When it came to Belarus, Russia, there were also European sanctions,” says Vuletic. “Israel was for a long time not subject to sanctions from European countries for its actions in Gaza – although in recent days we’ve seen that changing.”
What have the different countries said?
Ireland (RTE): “RTE feels that Ireland’s participation would be unconscionable given the ongoing and appalling loss of lives in Gaza. RTE is also deeply concerned by the targeted killing of journalists in Gaza, and the denial of access to international journalists to the territory, and the plight of the remaining hostages.”
The Netherlands (AVROTROS): “AVROTROS can no longer justify Israel’s participation in the current situation, given the ongoing and severe human suffering in Gaza. The broadcaster also expresses deep concern about the serious erosion of press freedom: the deliberate exclusion of independent international reporting and the many casualties among journalists. In addition, there is proven evidence of interference by the Israeli government during the most recent edition of the Eurovision Song Contest, in which the event was used as a political instrument.”
Spain (RTVE): “Spain will withdraw from Eurovision if Israel remains in the contest. The board of directors of the corporation made this decision… by an absolute majority of its members.
Spain is the first member of the ‘Big Five’ to adopt this agreement and joins other European countries that have already announced their withdrawal.”
Slovenia (RTVSLO): “At the EBU General Assembly, which was held in London at the beginning of July, RTV Slovenia presented its position that if Israel were to participate in the Eurovision Song Contest – due to the genocide in Gaza – it would not participate in the competition.”
Iceland (RUV): “I think it is likely that if there is no change in EBU’s position and it does not respond to these voices of concern coming from us, from Spain and Slovenia and others, then that will call for reactions from these broadcasters. But let’s just wait and see.”
What about the BBC?
Image: Remember Monday represented the UK at Eurovision in 2025. Pic: MANDOGA MEDIA/picture-alliance/dpa/AP
BBC director general Tim Davie has said the corporation is “aware of the concerns” raised, but the song contest has “never been about politics”.
A spokesperson for the broadcaster sent a similar statement to Sky News, saying: “We are aware of the various views and concerns which have been expressed in recent days in relation to next year’s Eurovision. At this stage, we will continue to be part of the discussions, led by the European Broadcasting Union, with other members and broadcasters.
“Eurovision has never been led by politics, it has been – and is – a celebration of music and culture that brings people together from across the world.”
Why is Spain’s stance particularly important?
Spain is one of Eurovision’s “Big Five” countries, a group which also includes France, Germany, Italy and the UK. While the host broadcaster – decided by the previous year’s winner – will often contribute most towards the cost of staging the contest, the Big Five will also make up a significant amount.
These countries are big markets for Eurovision and acts are given direct entry to the final because of this. They also act as reserve countries should a winning country not be able to host; in 2023, the UK stepped in following Ukraine’s win the previous year.
Image: Pic: Corinne Cumming/ EBU
“Dr Eurovision” Paul Jordan, who has a PhD in the subject and also worked behind the scenes as part of the EBU’s communications team between 2015 and 2018, says Spain’s stance has increased the pressure.
“There’s always been these tensions but there’s never been a kind of threat of a mass boycott in the way that has happened now,” he says. “The fact they are now outwardly saying they won’t participate with Israel in, that could make the EBU sit up and take notice because there is potential funding pitfalls and audience pitfalls.
“Having a big five country not part of the contest could potentially unravel the funding model. I also think the funding itself potentially needs to be looked at in the context of the financial challenges facing public broadcasters today.”
The EBU has said it is “assessing the potential impacts” of broadcasters pulling out. When asked by Sky News if this includes financial ones they, simply said that “all impacts will be assessed”.
Are other countries likely to follow suit?
Image: Germany, represented by Abor & Tinny at this year’s event, has said it will support the EBU’s decision. Pic: MANDOGA MEDIA/picture-alliance/dpa/AP
Sky News has contacted broadcasters set to take part in the event. Italy’s RAI, another of the Big Five, said it hoped to have news on the issue soon. Germany’s SWR said its parent company, ARD, supports the consultation process and will back the EBU’s decision.
In a statement, an SWR spokesperson said the goal is “to reach a well-founded and sustainable agreement that aligns with the values” of the EBU.
“The ESC has been a major musical event for decades, connecting people across Europe and beyond through diversity, respect, and openness, regardless of origin, religion, or beliefs. It is a competition organised by EBU broadcasters, not by governments.”
Experts agree the number of countries threatening a boycott will likely increase – although it could work both ways.
“We have to see what this period of consultation will bring, which countries will also join the calls for a boycott of the contest if Israel does participate, which countries might be steadfast in their support of Israel,” says Vuletic.
“For now, that’s not clear, whether countries will actually be so supportive of Israel so as to themselves contribute to a boycott of the contest. That would be a very big political message because if they take the side of Israel and not of their European partners, then we might see even greater ramifications of this crisis.”
What has Israel said?
Image: Netta won the competition for Israel in 2018. Pic: Armando Franca/AP
Israel’s broadcaster, Kan, did not respond to Sky News’ request for comment.
However, chief executive Golan Yochpaz reportedly told the Times of Israel that the event should not become political and that that there is “no reason” why Israel should not be part of it.
He also highlighted Israel’s success in the competition, with one win in 2018 and three other top-five finishes in recent years.
The situation in Gaza
More than 65,000 people in Gaza have now been killed in the war, according to the Hamas-run health ministry. The figure does not specify the number of Hamas members killed.
The ongoing military action continues following the Hamas terror attack on Israel in October 2023, which saw around 1,200 people killed and 251 people taken hostage. Forty-eight remain in Gaza, but fewer then half are thought to still be alive.
Earlier in September, a UN commission agreed Israel is committing genocide – the first time such an explosive allegation has been made publicly by a UN body. Israel has vehemently denied this claim as “distorted and false”.
Sky News analysis shows thousands of families remain in crowded tent camps in Gaza City, with the UN estimating last week that a million people remain there.
Israel, however, believes 40% of the population has already fled south and earlier this week opened a new evacuation route for 48 hours.
What happened at the contest this year and in 2024?
Image: Final scores for the Eurovision Song Contest 2025. Pic: BBC
Israeli contestant Yuval Raphael, a survivor of the October 2-23 Hamas attack, won the public vote with the song New Day Will Rise, and at one point looked set to be crowned the overall winner of this year’s competition – but ultimately finished second when the jury vote was included.
There were protests before and during her performance.
“I was just metres away from pro-Palestinian protesters who threw red paint when the Israeli artist appeared on stage,” says Vuletic. “And of course, it must be hugely stressful for these artists. There are also increased security measures, especially for these artists who are targeted.
“You could sense the tension in the arena when it became apparent that Israel could win the contest. A lot of people were willing to allow Israel to participate in the contest, they were not necessarily supporting the Netanyahu government… but when it appeared that Israel really could win the contest you could really sense this fear among the live audience in the arena, that the contest could be held in Israel the following year.”
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Protest during Israel’s Eurovision song
Having Israel as a host country would lead to a lot more countries boycotting, he says.
“It’s become so toxic,” says Jordan. “You see now, booing on the stage in a way that you had for Russia before. But really, in 2024, it became much more pronounced.
“Eurovision is meant to be joyous. And I remember the day of the [2024] final being with friends in a pub. And it just felt like an impending sense of doom, something was going to go wrong… it just felt that this is a house of cards that could potentially come falling down…
“Eurovision for me was all about escapism, they call it the Eurovision bubble. And that was a very special thing. And I feel now that’s kind of changing. It feels like an event that we all grew up with, now at 70 years old, and it could potentially start to unravel. It’d be a great shame, I think, culturally, if that does happen.”
Who else has commented?
Image: Austria will host the event in 2026 following singer JJ’s win. Pic: Reuters
Austrian singer JJ, who won this year’s competition, has also reportedly called for Israel’s exclusion in 2026.
Following his win in May, singer JJ said it was “disappointing to see Israel still participating”, according to Spanish newspaper El Pais. “I would like the next Eurovision to be held in Vienna and without Israel,” he added.
And Austria will of course host the show next year.
In a statement sent to Sky News, broadcaster ORF said the decision is a matter for the EBU.
“It is always the public broadcaster of a country that takes part in the Eurovision Song Contest, not the government or country itself,” an ORF spokesperson said. “Ultimately, however, the decision regarding participation is a matter for the EBU and its members. ORF will be a good host for all delegations in May 2026.”
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Russia’s alternative Eurovision
What happens now?
The competition’s director, Martin Green, has said the EBU understands “the concerns and deeply held views around the ongoing conflict in the Middle East” and that the organisation is still consulting with all members “to gather views on how we manage participation and geopolitical tensions”.
Broadcasters have until mid-December to confirm whether or not they are taking part – and the EBU then has a decision to make.
Speaking to Niall Paterson on the Sky News Daily podcast, Walker said he believes he wouldn’t be able work as a satirist in America today as the Trump administration appears to be cracking down on those who speak out against him.
Image: Tom Walker as his satirical creation. Pic: Jonathan Pie
He added: “I genuinely don’t think I would be allowed into the country. That might sound dramatic, but they go through your social media posts. I think Trump thinks that not agreeing with him is anti-American, whereas it’s not, it’s anti-Trump, it’s anti-Republican. So a lot of my posts would be seen as anti-American.”
Walker went viral in 2016 after posting a clip of Jonathan Pie passionately blaming “the left” for Mr Trump’s victory in the US election the same year.
The comedian argued that left-leaning people had “lost the art” of engaging with anyone with a different opinion to them and urged them to “stop thinking everyone who disagrees with you is evil, racist or sexist or stupid”.
Asked by Niall if he believes Kimmel, who has a long history of speaking out against Mr Trump, is partly responsible for the rise of the populist president, Walker said: “No, I don’t… Most of these late-night hosts are left-leaning and Trump is an own goal for satire.
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“I don’t think there was much that Jimmy Kimmel said in his monologue the other day that was anywhere near as divisive as the rhetoric coming from Donald Trump or (vice president) JD Vance, so there is an inherent hypocrisy there.”
However, Walker believes “right-wingers” are not the only reason free speech is under a “huge amount of threat in America”.
The satirist, who counts himself as being left-wing, continued: “I think the left have enabled a culture where people don’t feel that they’re able to express their views.
“The left-wing were the flag-bearers of cancel culture. And now it’s sort of coming back to bite us in a terrifying way.”
Kimmel was taken off air months after US talk show host Stephen Colbert had his show cancelled – something his fans have attributed to his criticism of Mr Trump.
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Meanwhile, the US president appeared to encourage NBC to cancel the talk shows of Jimmy Fallon and Seth Meyers in a Truth Social post on Thursday. Both presenters are known to have made jokes about Mr Trump in the past.
Asked whether the UK should be worried about free speech apparently being targeted in the UK in a similar way, Walker said: “I think that there are issues of free speech in this country. I don’t think it is quite as bad as what’s happening in America, but we have to be careful. The debate on both sides of the Atlantic is becoming more and more toxic, I think. And it’s divide and conquer. ‘You’re either with me or you’re against me’. And I think both sides have to take some responsibility for that.”
Walker pointed out that when he posted a satirical video on X called “The Death Of Discourse” in relation to the Kirk assassination, he was attacked by social media users on both the left and right of politics.
He added: “I think that’s the problem… We have forgotten how to talk and listen to people that we fundamentally disagree with.”