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Tesla has cut the price of its Full Self-Driving (FSD) software by $3,000, to $12k, down from $15k in the US.

North America might not have gotten an official Model 3 refresh announcement yet like Europe did, but it did get something Europe didn’t get overnight: a big drop in the price of FSD.

Almost exactly a year ago, Tesla raised the price of its FSD package from $12k to $15k alongside the release of FSD Beta 10.69, which added some significant improvements to the software’s capabilities. The theory was that as FSD gets better, it gets more valuable, and thus the price should go up as well.

But now, Tesla’s configurator lists the cost of FSD in the US as $12,000 again, a 20% price cut from yesterday’s price for the same software. The change applies to all Tesla models in the US, with a similar price drop in Canada (from $19.5k to $16k CAD).

As was the case during the last price change, FSD’s subscription pricing remains unchanged at $199/month (but if you want to subscribe with a car bought between late 2016 and mid 2019, Tesla will still charge you $1,000 for hardware you already bought).

The price drop hasn’t been echoed in all other territories. It’s still listed at £6,800 in the UK and 59,600kr in Norway, same as it was before today’s price drop. That said, FSD remains significantly cheaper in Europe than the US after taking into account exchange rates – though it also has more capabilities in the US than in other countries.

Tesla has been on a bit of a tear when it comes to price drops this year, massively slashing prices of vehicles multiple times this year, and then gaining access to the full IRA tax credit on its cheapest Model 3, making the car quite a deal. This has made some recent customers angry at the sudden drops in residual value for their vehicles, but has overall benefitted the consumer, as lower prices are generally a good thing.

Electrek’s Take

The most interesting part about this change is that Tesla has often said that the value of FSD is directly related to its capabilities. As the system becomes more capable, it becomes more valuable, which means Tesla should be able to charge a higher price for it.

Tesla CEO Elon Musk has even gone as far as to say that this means Tesla cars with FSD are “appreciating assets”, potentially worth $100-200k due to their value as robotaxis. Though Tesla only uses those values when its convenient, considering FSD much less valuable when offering trade-in estimates to owners.

So if the price goes up as the system gets better, then when the price goes down, does that mean the system has gotten worse?

More likely, this move to lower FSD prices is a way to boost financials as the quarter winds down, ending at the end of this month. A lower price could incentivize owners to pony up for software which has otherwise mostly gone up in price, not down (though it has had some price dips before, for similar cash/demand-generation reasons). This could give Tesla a cash infusion if it feel like it needs one.

Tesla has already rolled out some efforts to boost demand this quarter. The largest (and most craven) one is Tesla’s FSD transfer scheme, allowing owners of FSD to do a one-time transfer of FSD capability from their old vehicle to a new one. This scheme expires on the last day of the quarter, which suggests it is less about goodwill and doing the right thing for customers who years ago purchased expensive and still-subpar software, and more about boosting quarterly demand.

But we also don’t know how long this will last. Maybe it lasts for a year, like the last price change did, or maybe it changes at the end of this quarter. But don’t jump too fast – while today’s price drop was sudden, Tesla has usually telegraphed FSD price increases recently, tying them with big software releases, so you probably won’t get surprised by a sudden price hike if they do decide to raise them again.

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Tesla (TSLA) sales crash in France even with new Model Y

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The French are saying “non, merci” to Tesla, as sales crashed to just 700 units in May – a level not seen in more than three years.

The Model Y changeover was clearly not the problem.

Last week, Tesla CEO Elon Musk claimed that the company has “no demand problem” and that even though Europe is its weakest market, “everyone is struggling in Europe, there’s no exception.”

We have already produced a report to demonstrate that this is not true, but we are now receiving more data from May, which highlights Tesla’s growing problems in Europe.

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France has just released its car registration data for May, confirming that the auto market is down 12%. However, Tesla’s sales were down even more than the rest of the market.

Tesla delivered only 721 vehicles in France in May – down 67% compared to the same period last year.

In Q1, Tesla blamed its poor performance on the lack of Model Y availability due to the design changeover, but it doesn’t have this excuse in Q2, which is now tracking below Q1 in Europe.

May was Tesla’s worst month of deliveries it has had in the last three years. It’s also even worse than any month of deliveries in the first quarter, despite the new Model Y now being in full production in Gigafactory Berlin and available in France.

Electrek’s Take

I’ll write a more comprehensive post about Tesla’s sales in Europe once we have data from more countries in May, but it’s not looking good.

Tesla blamed its terrible performance in Q1 on the Model Y changeover, but we are past that in Q2. Yet, April was worse than January, and now, it looks like May is going to be below February in the whole of Europe.

The only positive market so far is Norway, and that’s probably due to some of its large existing base of owners in the country updating to the new Model Y, but it will be interesting to see if it’s sustainable through out the rest of the year. I doubt it. Tesla benefited from the Model Y changeover, but I expect the brand damage will also be felt in the popular EV market.

This result in France in May is particularly interesting because it is even worse than April. I literally have to go back to Q2 2022 to find a quarter when Tesla had a worse second month of a quarter in France.

It is starting to look like demand collapse.

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Tesla has no plan for HW3 owners 4 months after admitting it won’t support self-driving

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Tesla has no plan for HW3 owners 4 months after admitting it won't support self-driving

Tesla still has no plan to make things right for millions of car owners with its ‘HW3’ system, more than four months after it finally admitted that the hardware won’t support self-driving.

At this point, the automaker is just hoping they buy new cars.

We are approaching the 10th anniversary of Tesla’s promise and sale of self-driving capability that still doesn’t exist.

The Tesla FSD Timeline

In 2016, Tesla announced that all vehicles produced thereafter would become capable of “Full Self-Driving” with future software updates.

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At that time, Tesla was producing its vehicles with a new self-driving hardware suite called “HW2.5” – consisting of cameras, a radar, and a self-driving computer.

CEO Elon Musk warned at the time that the system might need an eventual computer upgrade to achieve full self-driving capability, which he said Tesla would provide for free.

In March 2019, Tesla began building cars with a new “HW3” computer and started upgrading HW2.5 cars to the new system.

In early 2023, Tesla still hadn’t delivered on its self-driving promises, but it started producing new cars with a new HW4 suite, which included a much more powerful computer and new cameras.

At the time, the automaker claimed that this new hardware suite would just enable Tesla to push self-driving capabilities further and that HW3 vehicles would still achieve “unsupervised self-driving capabilities” with upcoming software updates.

Tesla HW3 reaching its limit

A year later, we started to report that Tesla appeared to be reaching the limits of the HW3 computer.

It took almost another year before Musk finally admitted that HW3 will not be able to support full self-driving capabilities and that Tesla will need to upgrade the computers.

Musk said on January 29th:

I mean, I think the honest answer is that we’re going to have to upgrade people’s Hardware 3 computer for those that have bought full self-driving, and that is the honest answer and that’s going to be painful and difficult but we’ll get it done. Now I’m kind of glad that not that many people bought the FSD package.

We are now more than four months after this statement, and Tesla has yet to reveal a plan to make things right for HW3 owners, some of whom paid up to $15,000 for the FSD package, and some purchased it as long as nine years ago.

As we previously reported, the HW4 computer, as it exists, can’t be installed in HW3 vehicles. It doesn’t have the same camera connectors and overall format.

Tesla has previously talked about a new HW5 computer to be used in the Cybercab unveiled in October 2024, but it’s unclear if that new computer will be able to be retrofitted inside HW3 vehicles.

Electrek’s Take

I think that if Tesla had deployed FSD without selling it as “full self-driving” and promising capabilities, it would be a celebrated leading ADAS system.

Instead, it’s becoming one of the most significant liabilities ever.

Tesla has delivered millions of vehicles with HW3, which it said would all be capable of self-driving, and hundreds of thousands of those vehicle owners bought the FSD package.

Musk claims that Tesla only needs to replace the computers in the vehicles of those who bought FSD. That’s not true as Tesla promised that all vehicles delivered since 2016 would be capable of achieving full self-driving, and now that this is not true, it negatively affects the value.

Either way, even for those who bought FSD, Tesla has no plan for the retrofit yet. It’s a mess.

There are already several lawsuits related to Tesla’s self-driving claims that now include this situation with HW3, in addition to lawsuits specifically about the issue.

I think we are going to see billions of dollars in settlements over this, but it is going to take years. In the meantime, I doubt we can count on Tesla to do the right thing.

HW3 vehicles are barely getting any FSD updates now, and the current version is light years away from what was promised: unsupervised self-driving. Making things right should be Tesla’s top priority, but instead, Tesla is shifting its focus from delivering its promised capabilities in consumer vehicles to an internal fleet providing a ride-hailing service in a geo-fenced area with teleoperation support.

At this point, it is becoming ridiculous to believe that Tesla will deliver self-driving capabilities in almost 10-year-old vehicles, with or without hardware retrofit. It appears that Tesla is hoping that HW3 owners will change vehicles.

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Nissan launches new, mid-size PHEV pickup that undercuts $20K Slate *

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Nissan launches new, mid-size PHEV pickup that undercuts K Slate *

Zhengzhou Nissan has launched a new, plug-in pickup in the Chinese market called the Z9. It’s the same size as the Nissan Frontier Pro, offers over 35 miles of all-electric range, and pricing starts at just $16,600.

* in China.

Positioned as the electrified sibling of the domestically-built Nissan Frontier Pro, the Zhengzhou Nissan Z9 is essentially a Chinese-market version the Frontier Pro, and it’s spec’ed and priced accordingly, with the as-yet undisclosed price of the Frontier Pro expected to come in a bit higher than the Z9.

That’s less interesting. What’s more interesting is that the Z9 offers 35 miles (60 km) of range on the base, 17 kWh battery, at a price that significantly undercuts even the Slate EV’s $28,000 pre-$7,500 incentive price tag – and that incentive is far from a sure thing.

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What’s more, if you feel like spending a bit more, you can get a Zhengzhou Nissan Z9 equipped with a 32.85 kWh battery that’s good for almost 85 miles (135 km) of all-electric range. And even that extended-range model, at ¥168,900 (about $23,400) is still price-competitive with the Jeff Bezos-backed Slate EV.

In short, it’s bound to be a winner.

It’ll sell, but it won’t sell here


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US-market Nissan Frontier.

With excitement surrounding the Kia Tasman, Slate, and other, similarly affordable light-duty pickups building on the success of the Ford Maverick hybrid, it should come as no surprise that Nissan has international ambitions for its newest electrified pickup.

“In alignment with our ‘In China, For China, Toward the World’ strategy for electrification and smart transformation, Nissan will fully support ZNA’s ‘off-road strategy,’” explained Stephen Ma, Chairman of Nissan (China) Management Committee and President of Dongfeng Motor Co., Ltd. “We are working to strengthen our research and manufacturing capabilities, further advancing our presence in the core markets of pickups and off-road vehicles, with the ultimate goal of achieving global expansion.”

It’s exciting stuff, but with all the recent troubles it’s been experiencing, it’s doubtful that Nissan will bring either of its new, Chinese-built mid-size pickups to the US (electrified or otherwise).

“The mission of the new generation of Chinese automotive professionals is clear – to ensure that made-in-China cars are driven across the world. ZNA will utilize its dual-brand and dual-channel advantages to expand its global footprint,” Mr. Mao Limin, Executive Vice President of ZNA, at the Z9’s launch. “We aim to be one of the top exporters of pickups within three years and to reach a sales milestone of 100,000 units.”

That said, Nissan Hardbody fans shouldn’t lose hope quite yet. If Nissan is able to find a new savior in Toyota, a Taco-based BEV pickup with a new LEAF/Ariya-type front fascia might make more sense than you think.

Electrek’s Take


Zhengzhou Nissan at left, Frontier Pro at right; via Carscoops.

I’ve already written out my own comeback plans for Nissan, and this new Chinese truck doesn’t really fit into them. Like many of you, I’m of the belief that a PHEV isn’t an EV – but I do see their value as “lilypad” cars, and the two Lightning owners I know? Their last F-150s were hybrids.

SOURCES: Zhengzhou Nissan; side-by-side image via Carscoops.


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