Mike Monegan saw the writing on the wall in January. For weeks, he’d had difficulty sleeping.
As vice president of product management for Australian artificial intelligence software vendor Appen, Monegan and many of his colleagues had been doing their best to keep things afloat as tech behemoths slashed their spending on the company’s AI training data.
Five customers — Microsoft, Apple, Meta, Google, and Amazon — accounted for 80% of Appen’s revenue, and this was supposed to be the company’s moment to shine. Across the industry, companies were committing to hefty investments in generative AI, trying to ensure they weren’t left behind in the sudden race to embed the latest large language models into all of their projects.
Appen has a platform of about one million freelance workers in more than 170 countries. In the past, it’s used that network of people to train some of the world’s leading AI systems, working for a star-studded list of tech companies, including the top consumer names as well as Adobe, Salesforce and Nvidia.
But just as AI’s big moment was arriving, Appen was losing business — and fast. Revenue declined 13% in 2022, a drop the company attributed in part to “challenging external operating and macro conditions.” Former employees, who asked not to be named for fear of retaliation, told CNBC that the company’s current struggle to pivot to generative AI reflects years of weak quality controls and a disjointed organizational structure.
In mid-December, Appen announced a change at the top. Armughan Ahmad, a 25-year veteran of the tech industry, would be taking over as CEO, replacing Mark Brayan, who had helmed the company for the prior seven years. Upon starting the following month, Ahmad called generative AI “one of the most exciting advancements” in the industry and noted that he “was happy to learn that our team has already put the technology to work on our marketing content.”
Monegan wasn’t buying it. He told CNBC that after his first meeting with Ahmad he began looking for another job. Monegan had been watching Appen fall behind, and he didn’t see Ahmad, whose LinkedIn profile says he’s based in Seattle, presenting a realistic path out.
Monegan left in March to help start his own company.
The numbers seem to prove him right.
Despite Appen’s enviable client list and its nearly 30-year history, the company’s struggles have intensified this year. Revenue in the first half of 2023 tumbled 24% to $138.9 million, amid what it called a “broader technology slowdown.” The company said its underlying loss widened to $34.2 million from $3.8 million a year earlier.
“Our data and services power the world’s leading AI models,” Ahmad said on last week’s earnings call. “However, our results are far from satisfactory. They reflect the ongoing global macroeconomic pressures and continued slowdown in tech spending, particularly amongst our largest customers.”
In August 2020, Appen’s shares peaked at AU$42.44 on the Australian Securities Exchange, sending its market cap to the equivalent of $4.3 billion. Now, the stock is trading at around AU$1.52, for a market cap of around $150 million.
‘Resetting the business’
Along with its troubled financials, the company is dealing with a string of executive departures. Helen Johnson, who was appointed finance chief in May, left after just seven weeks in the role. Marketing chief Fab Dolan, whose departure was announced on the earnings call, spent just over two months in the position. The departure of Chief Product Officer Sujatha Sagiraju was also just announced.
“In the environment of a turnaround, we anticipate changes,” a representative for Appen told CNBC.
Elena Sagunova, global human resources director, left in April, followed by Jen Cole, senior vice president of enterprise, in July and Jukka Korpi, senior manager of business development for the Europe, Middle East and Africa Region, in August.
Still, Ahmad said on the earnings call that the company remains “laser-focused on resetting the business” as it pivots to providing data for generative AI models. He added that “the benefits from our turnaround have yet to show meaningful results” and that “the revenue growth does not offset the declines we are experiencing in the remainder of the business.”
Appen’s past work for tech companies has been on projects like evaluating the relevance of search results, helping AI assistants understand requests in different accents, categorizing e-commerce images using AI and building out map locations of electric vehicle charging stations, according to public information and interviews conducted by CNBC.
Appen has also touted its work on search relevance for Adobe and on translation services for Microsoft, as well as in providing training data for lidar companies, security applications and automotive manufacturers.
Depending on the data that a customer requires, an Appen freelancer could be sitting at a laptop to label or categorize images or search results or using Appen’s mobile application to capture the sounds of glass breaking or background noise in a vehicle.
During Appen’s growth years, that manual collection of data was key for the state of AI at the time. But LLMs of today have changed the game. The underlying models behind OpenAI’s ChatGPT and by Google’s Bard are scouring the digital universe to provide sophisticated answers and advanced images in response to simple text queries.
To fuel their LLMs, which are powered largely by state-of-the-art processors from Nvidia, companies are spending less on Appen and a lot more on competitive services that already specialize in generative AI.
Ahmad told CNBC in a statement that, while the company’s financials are being hurt by the economy and a reduction in spending by top customers, “I’m confident that our disciplined focus and the early progress we are making to turn around the business will enable us to capture value from the growing generative AI market and return Appen to growth.”
Cash-strapped
Ahmad said on the earnings call that there’s customer interest in niche types of data that’s more difficult to acquire. For Appen, that would mean finding specialists in particular types of information that can bolster generative AI systems. That also means it needs to expand its base of workers while simultaneously finding ways to preserve cash.
Appen’s cash on hand was $55 million as of June 30, thanks to proceeds from a $38 million equity raise. Prior to the new infusion, cash had been dwindling, from $48 million at the end of 2021 to $23.4 million a year later.
Even before the generative AI transition, wages for Appen’s data labelers were a sticking point. In 2019, Google said its contractors would need to pay their workers $15 an hour. Appen didn’t meet that requirement, according to public letters written by some workers.
In January, after months of organizing, raises went into effect for Appen freelancers working on the Bard chatbot and other Google products. The rates went up to between $14 and 14.50 per hour.
That wasn’t the end of the story. In May, Appen was accused of squeezing freelancers focused on generative AI, allotting strict time limits for time-consuming tasks such as evaluating a complex answer for accuracy. One worker, Ed Stackhouse, wrote a letter to two senators stating his concerns about the dangers of such constrained working conditions.
“The fact that raters are exploited leads to a faulty, and ultimately more dangerous product,” he wrote. “Raters are not given the time to deliver and test a perfect AI model under the Average Estimated Time (AET) model they are paid for,” a practice that “leads raters to spot check only a handful of facts before the task must be submitted,” he added.
In June, Appen faced charges from the U.S. National Labor Relations Board after allegedly firing six freelancers who spoke out publicly about frustrations with workplace conditions. The workers were later reinstated.
Appen employees who spoke to CNBC on behalf of the company in recent months said the rapidly changing AI environment poses challenges. Erik Vogt, vice president of solutions at Appen, told CNBC in May that the sector was in a state of flux.
“There’s a lot of uncertainty, a lot of tentativeness for experimentation, and new startups trying out new things,” Vogt said. “How to make new use cases a reality usually means acquiring unusual data – sometimes astronomical volumes of data, or highly rare resource types. There’s a need for specialists in a wide range of different capabilities.”
For recent projects, Vogt said Appen needed to enlist the help of doctors, lawyers and people with experience using project-tracking software Jira.
“People you wouldn’t necessarily think of as being gig workers, we had to engage with these specialists for these expert systems in a way there hadn’t been a huge demand for before,” Vogt said.
Kim Stagg, Appen’s vice president of product, said the work required for generative AI services was different than what the company has needed in the past.
“A lot of work we’ve done has been around the relevance of search for big engines – a lot of those are more, ‘Is this a hot dog or not,’ ‘Is this a good search or not,'” Stagg said. “With generative AI, we see a different demand.”
One focus Stagg highlighted was the need to find “what we would call really good quality creative people,” or those who are particularly good with language. “And another is domain experts: sports, hobbies, medical.”
However, former employees expressed deep skepticism of Appen’s ability to succeed given its tumultuous position and the executive shuffling taking place. Part of the problem, they say, is the organizational structure.
Appen was divided into a global business unit and an enterprise business unit, which were at one time made up of about five clients and more than 250 clients, respectively. Each had a separate team and communication between them was limited, creating inefficiencies internally, ex-employees said. One former manager said it felt like two separate companies. Appen said that in the last quarter, the company has integrated the global and enterprise business units.
The company’s plunging stock price suggests that investors don’t see the company’s business offerings transferring to the generative AI space.
Lisa Braden-Harder, who served as CEO of Appen until 2015, echoed that sentiment, telling CNBC that “data-labeling is completely different” than how data collection works in a ChatGPT world.
“I am not clear that their past experience of data labeling is a competitive advantage now,” she said.
Former Appen employees say the company has in recent years been dealing with quality control problems, hurting its ability to provide valuable training data for AI models. For example, one former department manager said people would annotate rows of data using automated tools instead of the manual data labeling required for accuracy, which is what clients thought they were buying.
Customers’ expectations of a “clean data set” were often not met, the person said, leading them to leave Appen for competitors such as Labelbox and Scale AI. When the manager started at the company, there were more than 250 clients in the enterprise business unit. Within 18 months, he said, that number had dwindled to less than 100.
Appen told CNBC that in the first half of the year it “secured 89 new client wins.”
Monegan recalled that many customer relationships were “hanging on by a thread.”
Following the earnings report, Canaccord Genuity analysts cut their price target on Appen by more than half to AU$1.56. One concern the analysts referenced was a 34% reduction in spending by Appen’s top customer, a number that Appen wouldn’t confirm or deny.
The more existential problem, the analysts note, revolves around Appen’s effort to win business while also looking to cut costs by 31% in fiscal 2023.
“That seems like a brutal level of cost reduction,” they wrote, as the company tries to stabilize its “core revenue base while growing a business around Generative AI.”
Okta on Tuesday topped Wall Street’s third-quarter estimates and issued an upbeat outlook, but shares fell as the company did not provide guidance for fiscal 2027.
Shares of the identity management provider fell more than 3% in after-hours trading on Tuesday.
Here’s how the company did versus LSEG estimates:
Earnings per share: 82 cents adjusted vs. 76 cents expected
Revenue: $742 million vs. $730 million expected
Compared to previous third-quarter reports, Okta refrained from offering preliminary guidance for the upcoming fiscal year. Finance chief Brett Tighe cited seasonality in the fourth quarter, and said providing guidance would require “some conservatism.”
Okta released a capability that allows businesses to build AI agents and automate tasks during the third quarter.
CEO Todd McKinnon told CNBC that upside from AI agents haven’t been fully baked into results and could exceed Okta’s core total addressable market over the next five years.
“It’s not in the results yet, but we’re investing, and we’re capitalizing on the opportunity like it will be a big part of the future,” he said in a Tuesday interview.
Revenues increased almost 12% from $665 million in the year-ago period. Net income increased 169% to $43 million, or 24 cents per share, from $16 million, or breakeven, a year ago. Subscription revenues grew 11% to $724 million, ahead of a $715 million estimate.
For the current quarter, the cybersecurity company expects revenues between $748 million and $750 million and adjusted earnings of 84 cents to 85 cents per share. Analysts forecast $738 million in revenues and EPS of 84 cents for the fourth quarter.
Returning performance obligations, or the company’s subscription backlog, rose 17% from a year ago to $4.29 billion and surpassed a $4.17 billion estimate from StreetAccount.
This year has been a blockbuster period for cybersecurity companies, with major acquisition deals from the likes of Palo Alto Networks and Google and a raft of new initial public offerings from the sector.
Marvell Technology Group Ltd. headquarters in Santa Clara, California, on Sept. 6, 2024.
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Semiconductor company Marvell on Tuesday announced that it will acquire Celestial AI for at least $3.25 billion in cash and stock.
The purchase price could increase to $5.5 billion if Celestial hits revenue milestones, Marvell said.
Marvell shares rose 13% in extended trading Tuesday as the company reported third-quarter earnings that beat expectations and said on the earnings call that it expected data center revenue to rise 25% next year.
The deal is an aggressive move for Marvell to acquire complimentary technology to its semiconductor networking business. The addition of Celestial could enable Marvell to sell more chips and parts to companies that are currently committing to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on infrastructure for AI.
Marvell stock is down 18% so far in 2025 even as semiconductor rivals like Broadcom have seen big valuation increases driven by excitement around artificial intelligence.
Celestial is a startup focused on developing optical interconnect hardware, which it calls a “photonic fabric,” to connect high-performance computers. Celestial was reportedly valued at $2.5 billion in March in a funding round, and Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan joined the startup’s board in January.
Optical connections are becoming increasingly important because the most advanced AI systems need those parts tie together dozens or hundreds of chips so they can work as one to train and run the biggest large-language models.
Currently, many AI chip connections are done using copper wires, but newer systems are increasingly using optical connections because they can transfer more data faster and enable physically longer cables. Optical connections also cost more.
“This builds on our technology leadership, broadens our addressable market in scale-up connectivity, and accelerates our roadmap to deliver the industry’s most complete connectivity platform for AI and cloud customers,” Marvell CEO Matt Murphy said in a statement.
Marvell said that the first application of Celestial technology would be to connect a system based on “large XPUs,” which are custom AI chips usually made by the companies investing billions in AI infrastructure.
On Tuesday, the company said that it could even integrate Celestial’s optical technology into custom chips, and based on customer traction, the startup’s technology would soon be integrated into custom AI chips and related parts called switches.
Amazon Web Services Vice President Dave Brown said in a statement that Marvell’s acquisition of Celestial will “help further accelerate optical scale-up innovation for next-generation AI deployments.”
The maximum payout for the deal will be triggered if Celestial can record $2 billion in cumulative revenue by the end of fiscal 2029. The deal is expected to close early next year.
In its third-quarter earnings on Tuesday, Marvell earnings of 76 cents per share on $2.08 billion in sales, versus LSEG expectations of 73 cents on $2.07 billion in sales. Marvell said that it expects fourth-quarter revenue to be $2.2 billion, slightly higher than LSEG’s forecast of $2.18 billion.
Amazon Web Services’ two-track approach to artificial intelligence came into better focus Tuesday as the world’s biggest cloud pushed forward with its own custom chips and got closer to Nvidia . During Amazon ‘s annual AWS Re:Invent 2025 conference in Las Vegas, Amazon Web Services CEO Matt Garman unveiled Trainium3 — the latest version of the company’s in-house custom chip. It has four times more compute performance, energy efficiency, and memory bandwidth than previous generations. AWS said that early results of customers testing Trainium3 are reducing AI training and inference costs by up to 50%. Custom chips, like Trainium, are becoming more and more popular for the big tech companies that can afford to make them. And, their use cases are broadening. For example, Google’s tensor processing units (TPUs), co-designed by Broadcom , have also been getting a lot of attention since last month’s launch of the well-received Gemini 3 artificial intelligence model. It is powered by TPUs. There was even a report that Meta Platforms was considering TPUs in addition to Nvidia ‘s graphics processing units (GPUs), which are the gold standard for all-purpose AI workloads. At the same time, Amazon also announced that it’s deepening its work with Nvidia. In Tuesday’s keynote, Garman introduced AWS Factories, which provides on-premise AI infrastructure for customers to use in their own data centers. The service combines Trainium accelerators and Nvidia graphics processing units, which allows customers to access Nvidia’s accelerated computing platform, full-stack AI software, and GPU-accelerated applications. By offering both options, Amazon aims to keep accelerating AWS cloud capacity and, in turn, revenue growth to stay on top during a time of intense competition from Microsoft ‘s Azure and Alphabet ‘s Google Cloud, the second and third place horses in the AI race, by revenue. Earlier this year, investors were concerned when second-quarter AWS revenue growth did not live up to its closest competitors. In late October’s release of Q3 results, Amazon went a long way to putting those worries to rest. Amazon CEO Andy Jassy said at the time , “AWS is growing at a pace we haven’t seen since 2022, re-accelerating to 20.2% YoY.” He added, “We’ve been focused on accelerating capacity — adding more than 3.8 gigawatts (GW) in the past 12 months.” Tuesday’s announcements come at a pivotal time for AWS as it tries to rapidly expand its computing capacity after a year of supply constraints that put a lid on cloud growth. As great as more efficient chips are, they don’t make up for the capacity demand that the company is facing as AI adoption ramps up, which is why adding more gigawatts of capacity is what Wall Street is laser-focused on. Fortunately, Wall Street argues that the capacity headwind should flip to a tailwind. Wells Fargo said Trainium3 is “critical to supplementing Nvidia GPUs and CPUs in this capacity build” to close the gap with rivals. In a note to investors on Monday, the analysts estimate Amazon will add more than 12 gigawatts of compute by year-end 2027, boosting total AWS capacity to support as much as $150 billion in incremental annual AWS revenue if demand remains strong. In a separate note, Oppenheimer said Monday that AWS has already proven its ability to improve capacity, which has already doubled since 2022. Amazon plans to double it again by 2027. The analysts said that such an expansion could translate to 14% upside to 2026 AWS revenue and 22% upside in 2027. Analysts said each incremental gigawatt of compute added in recent quarters translated to roughly $3 billion of annual cloud revenue. Bottom line While new chips are welcome news that helps AWS step deeper into the AI chip race, Amazon’s investment in capacity and when that capacity will be unlocked is what investors are more locked in on because that’s how it will fulfill demand. The issue is not a demand issue; it’s a supply issue. We are confident in AWS’ ability to add the capacity. In fact, there’s no one company in the world that could deal with this kind of logistics problem, at this scale, better than Amazon. Amazon shares surged nearly 14% to $254 each in the two sessions following the cloud and e-commerce giant’s late Oct. 30 earnings print. The stock has since given back those gains and then some. As of Tuesday’s close, shares were up 6.5% year to date, a laggard among its “Magnificent Seven” peers, and underperforming the S & P 500 ‘s roughly 16% advance in 2025. (Jim Cramer’s Charitable Trust is long AMZN, NVDA. See here for a full list of the stocks.) 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