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Rishi Sunak was described as “Dr Death” by one of the government’s top science officers at the height of the pandemic, WhatsApp messages have revealed.

A text conversation between Professor Dame Angela McLean and Professor John Edmunds from September 2020 – shortly after the then chancellor launched his Eat Out to Help Out scheme – was shown to the UK COVID-19 Inquiry on Thursday, with the pair appearing to be talking during a briefing.

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Dame Angela, who was then an adviser to the Ministry of Defence but is now the government’s chief scientific adviser, referred to someone else in the meeting – thought to be prominent lockdown sceptic Professor Carl Heneghan – as a “f***wit” during the discussion.

And COVID modeller Prof Edwards replied by saying: “Every statistic is wrong.”

WhatsApp messages between scientists John Edmunds and Angela McLean were released by the public inquiry into the handling of COVID-19
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The messages appeared to show the pair insulting the medical director of the NHS, as well as calling Mr Sunak ‘Dr Death’

But a few messages later, Dame Angela then sent a WhatsApp message to her colleague saying, “Dr Death the Chancellor”, followed by: “In ONS you’d see it.”

Prof Edmunds appeared at the COVID inquiry hearing on Thursday and was asked by lead counsel Hugo Keith if the comments were made in relation to Mr Sunak’s scheme.

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Eat Out to Help Out offered discounts to diners throughout August 2020 to get them back to restaurants and pubs as people cautiously came out of the first lockdown.

But a study in 2021 later showed the scheme had contributed to a rise in infections.

Replying to the question, Prof Edmunds said: “Honestly, it’s so long ago I wouldn’t know, but it could well be.”

However, earlier in the session, the professor of epidemiology and population health at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine did say he was “still angry” about Eat Out to Help Out.

“It was one thing taking the foot off the brake, which is what we had been doing by easing restrictions, but to put your foot on the accelerator seemed perverse and to spend public money to do that when 45,000 people had just died,” he told the inquiry.

“I don’t want to blame Eat Out to Help Out for the second wave as that’s not the case, but the optics of it. Yes, the pub and restaurant sector needed support, but this is not really just about supporting them, they could have just given them the money.

“This was a scheme that encouraged people to take an epidemiological risk. It only applied if you went into the restaurant and ate in the restaurant – it didn’t apply to take out.”

Professor Dame Angela McLean and Professor John Edmunds. Pics: PA/Shutterstock
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The WhatsApp conversation took place between Professor Dame Angela McLean and Professor John Edmunds. Pics: PA/Shutterstock

A spokesperson for COVID-19 Bereaved Families for Justice UK, Naomi Fulop, said the public inquiry had already shown there was “absolutely no consultation with the government’s scientific advisers on Eat Out to Help Out, that it contributed to the loss of thousands of lives, put unnecessary pressure on the NHS and plunged the country into a brutal second lockdown”.

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She added: “It’s unbearable to think that if it wasn’t for Rishi Sunak’s reckless, unscientific and callous approach, my Mum might still be with me.

“When our current chief scientific adviser has referred to our prime minister as ‘Dr Death’, how can any of us have faith in our government if another pandemic strikes?”

A government source said: “We designed the Eat Out to Help Out scheme to protect two million jobs in hospitality, and statistics show that the scheme brought back 400,000 people from furlough whilst safely restoring consumer confidence.

“Local take-up of the Eat Out to Help Out scheme was not positively correlated with COVID rates in any English region or country.”

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‘Grow up… We debank Democrats, we debank Republicans:’ JPMorgan CEO

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‘Grow up... We debank Democrats, we debank Republicans:’ JPMorgan CEO

JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon has denied debanking customers based on their religious or political affiliation and stated that he has actually been working to change the rules surrounding debanking for over a decade. 

During an interview with Fox News’ “Sunday Morning Futures” on Sunday, Dimon said his bank has cut off services to people from all walks of life, but political affiliations have never been a factor.

Devin Nunes, the chair of the president’s intelligence advisory board and CEO of Trump Media, alleges the company was debanked by JPMorgan and that it was among more than 400 Trump‑linked individuals and organizations that had banking records subpoenaed by special counsel Jack Smith as part of an investigation.

Jack Mallers, the CEO of the Bitcoin Lightning Network payments company Strike, also accused JPMorgan of closing his personal accounts without explanation last month, which sparked concerns about another Operation Chokepoint 2.0.

Houston Morgan, the head of marketing at non-custodial crypto trading platform ShapeShift, shared a similar story in November. 

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JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon maintains his institution doesn’t debank people for political affiliations. Source: YouTube 

“People have to grow up here, OK, and stop making up things and stuff like that,” Dimon said. “I can’t talk about an individual account. We do not debank people for religious or political affiliations.

“We do debank them. They have religious or political affiliations. We debank people who are Democrats. We debank people who are Republicans. We have debanked different religious folks. Never was that for that reason.”

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Crypto firms have been facing account closures and denials of banking services for years, and many in the industry have stated that these actions are part of a policy-driven effort to suppress the digital assets sector.