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Tesla has dropped the price of their FSD Computer/Hardware 3.0 upgrade to $1,000, from the previous price point of $1,500. This applies to vehicles that still have Hardware 2.0/2.5 computers and want to try the new Tesla FSD subscription service rolled out this weekend.

The move comes after significant criticism from Tesla forums and from us here at Electrek, who pointed out that Tesla is charging owners to upgrade to hardware they were already told they had.

Our previous story lays out the whole situation, and we won’t completely repeat it here. Click through if you want more details.

Here’s a quick recap: all vehicles Tesla sold from late-2016 to mid-2019 purportedly included the appropriate hardware for Full Self-Driving capabilities. This was not functional yet, but would be utilized as Tesla further developed its Autopilot software. Eventually, Tesla found out they needed a hardware upgraded, and started shipping cars with a more capable Autopilot computer. When owners of cars with the old hardware bought the Full Self-Driving package, they would be upgraded for free to the new computer. Then Tesla introduced a new subscription model, but started charging people with the old hardware $1,500 for the hardware upgrade, even though those owners had bought the car thinking they had the proper hardware for Full Self-Driving.

After seeing the backlash from forums, Electrek, and other publications, Tesla seems to have taken this criticism at least partially to heart, and customers in the same situation who go to upgrade in the Tesla app are now shown a $1,000 upgrade cost, rather than the previous $1,500:

We have also seen reports that anyone who has scheduled an installation in the last few days will receive a refund for the $500 difference.

According to a teardown by EE Times, Tesla’s HW 3.0 system costs about $190 per unit – though, to be honest, this seems a little low to us. Also, this is simply hardware cost, and doesn’t include any service or logistics costs for the retrofit installation.

Electrek’s Take

While this is a step forward, it’s still not zero. Tesla sold these vehicles with the promise that they had the hardware for self-driving capabilities, so it does not seem ethical to charge additional money to owners who bought the vehicle with that promise simply in order to restore a capability that they were told they already have.

Yes, things have changed since then, but a person who bought a Tesla in 2017 did not know that HW3 would be required for Full Self-Driving, as that announcement wasn’t made until 2019.

Tesla did right by those owners previously, by offering free upgrades for those who bought Full Self-Driving, but they’re still not doing right by the owners of late-2016 to mid-2019 cars who subscribe to the new subscription feature.

We don’t know what Tesla’s specific concerns are which led to this decision. It’s possible they thought that if enough people subscribe for one month and then cancel their subscription, the cost of installing hardware in those vehicles would result in a loss for Tesla, and those cars wouldn’t be gaining any functionality from the new hardware anyway. From their current point of view this makes some sense, but remember: they still sold these cars as if they had Full Self-Driving hardware. Upgrades required to get to that point should be Tesla’s responsibility, not the owner’s.

Fred had a suggestion for a compromise that Tesla could implement, which does alleviate this possible concern:

I had been thinking something similar. Tesla could have introduced the subscription service with a minimum contract, or as Fred states, perhaps a credit of several free months in exchange for a lump sum upfront to cover the hardware upgrade. This would have been an easier sell, as customers wouldn’t feel like they’re losing out on any money, even though they should have already had the hardware for FSD.

They likely didn’t do that because they wanted to keep subscriptions easy, but If they had done this from the get-go, they probably could have avoided the anger of customers who feel jilted at having to pay for hardware they thought they already had.

In the end, the most fair solution is just to take it on the chin and install this hardware for free to people who bought a car that was marketed as having Full Self-Driving hardware. Maybe Tesla takes a short financial hit from this, but if they’re proud enough about the system and think its capabilities are worth 199/month, they’ll eventually recoup those upgrade costs and more.

Besides, it was a promise, and for a company that has grown largely due to the loyalty and word of mouth of its early customers, it’s not just the right thing to do, but the smart thing to do. We’re glad they made this change, because it means they recognize they were wrong and are receptive to criticism, but we’d really like to see the price go down to what it should have been all along: zero.


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MTV VMAs: Taylor Swift matches Beyonce as most-awarded artist while Katy Perry shocks on stage

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Taylor Swift has won seven gongs at the 2024 MTV Video Music Awards (VMAs), equalling Beyonce in a career total of 30 and matching her as most-awarded musician in VMAs history.

Swift, who used her platform to urge Americans to vote in the upcoming presidential elections, picked up prizes including video of the year for Fortnight, featuring Post Malone, artist of the year and best collaboration.

While Swift overtook Beyonce as the most decorated solo artist in VMA history, the Single Ladies singer has previously picked up gongs for being in girl group Destiny’s Child, and her collaborations with husband Jay-Z as The Carters.

Beyonce did not win any new awards at this year’s VMAs and was notably shut out of the Country Music Association Awards earlier this week.

Upon receiving her award for video of the year, Swift thanked her boyfriend, NFL player Travis Kelce, for his support, saying: “Everything this man touches turns to happiness and fun and magic.”

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She also encouraged her fans who are over 18 to register to vote in the upcoming US election, although she avoided directly mentioning her endorsement of vice president Kamala Harris.

On Tuesday, after a presidential debate between Ms Harris and Republican candidate Donald Trump, Swift endorsed the Democratic candidate on Instagram, writing: “I think she is a steady-handed, gifted leader and I believe we can accomplish so much more in this country if we are led by calm and not chaos.”

Swift jokingly signed off her endorsement “childless cat lady” – a move which was followed by Fleetwood Mac star Stevie Nicks shortly after.

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Elsewhere, Katy Perry also made VMA history, becoming the first singer to win the Vanguard award – the VMA’s lifetime achievement award – having previously won video of the year and also present the ceremony in previous years.

The stakes were high for the I Kissed A Girl singer after her comeback album – 143 – was panned by fans and critics alike, with the first two singles from the collection sinking without trace.

Katy Perry, far left, performs during the MTV Video Music Awards on Wednesday, Sept. 11, 2024, at UBS Arena in Elmont, N.Y. (Photo by Charles Sykes/Invision/AP)
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Perry performed a medley of her biggest songs, including Roar, Teenage Dream and Firework, with her stage show including a risqué performance with rapper Doechii, during which the pair wrapped their legs around each other and lay on the stage.

Accepting her award, which was presented to her by her husband British actor Orlando Boom, Perry said: “There are so many things that have to align to have a long and successful career as an artist. There are no decade-long accidents.”

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Bloom and Perry shared an on-stage kiss after the singer accepted the award, with Perry thanking him “for keeping me grounded”.

She also paid tribute to their four-year-old daughter, Daisy Dove, saying: “Lastly, for my Daisy, the only flowers I’ll ever need.”

Sabrina Carpenter performs "Please Please Please" during the MTV Video Music Awards on Wednesday, Sept. 11, 2024, at UBS Arena in Elmont, N.Y. (Photo by Charles Sykes/Invision/AP)
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Elsewhere, Sabrina Carpenter picked up song of the year for Espresso, while Good Luck, Babe singer Chappell Roan was named best new artist and Blackpink’s LISA won the best K-pop award.

Carpenter wore the same silver sequined Bob Mackie gown that Madonna wore to the 1991 Academy Awards, and surprisingly kissed an alien during her performance of a medley of her hits which included Please Please Please, Taste and Espresso.

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Meanwhile, Roan channelled Joan of Arc for her medieval performance of Good Luck, Babe – a summer hit that has made her a break-out star.

Roan – who last month sparked a conversation about boundaries after posting videos online urging fans to stop “harassing her” – had recently faced push-back after cancelling two European shows to play the VMAs.

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Eminem won prizes for best hip-hop video and best visual effects, making him the solo male artist with the most wins with a total haul of 14 gongs.

He performed his two latest singles, Houdini and Somebody Save Me, entering the stage with dozens of dancers all sporting bleach blonde wigs.

It was a nod to his 2000 VMA performance of The Real Slim Shady, where he sang at the ceremony in front of hundreds of extras dressed just like him.

The 2024 MTV VMAs will be screened in the UK on MTV and Paramount Plus at 8pm on Thursday 12 September

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Joe Jonas and Sophie Turner divorce finalised – as judge declares marriage ‘irretrievably broken’

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The divorce between Jonas Brothers singer Joe Jonas and his estranged wife Sophie Turner has been approved, five years after the pair got married.

Florida judge Gina Beovides also signed off a confidential settlement over splitting assets, spousal support and custody of their two daughters, four-year-old Willa and two-year-old Delphine.

She declared the marriage “irretrievably broken” between Jonas, 35, and British-born actress Turner, 28, who is best known for her roles in Game Of Thrones and X-Men.

Finalising the terms of the divorce, the judge said the couple’s agreement, especially their parenting plan, was in the best interest of the family.

The split brings a relatively quick end to a divorce, filed a year ago, which briefly became acrimonious and looked headed for a long and ugly custody fight.

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The couple met through Instagram, began dating in 2016, and married in a secretive ceremony in a Las Vegas wedding chapel in May 2019.

In September 2023, Jonas filed for divorce, a day later the pair posted messages on Instagram reading: “After four wonderful years of marriage we have mutually decided to amicably end our marriage.”

The joint statement added: “There are many speculative narratives as to why, but truly this is a united decision.”

In the same month, court documents revealed Turner claimed the breakdown of their marriage happened “very suddenly” after an argument.

She said she learned about their split “through the media”, although Jonas said they had several conversations about it.

The Jonas Brothers (Kevin Jonas, Nick Jonas and Joe Jonas) attend the world premiere of the Disney Channel's "Camp Rock 2: The Final Jam" at Lincoln Center's Alice Tully Hall in New York City on August 18, 2010. Photo Credit: Henry McGee/MediaPunch /IPX
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The couple had initially been caught up in a custody dispute over their daughters, who were born in the US but have dual citizenship.

Turner sued Jonas over access to the girls’ passports so they could join her in her England, but the custody battle was dropped in January, a sign the pair were on a path to a settlement.

Court documents reveal the pair also had a pre-nuptial agreement.

Turner, who is from Northampton, played Sansa Stark for eight seasons on HBO‘s Game Of Thrones and then Jean Grey in 2016’s X-Men: Apocalypse and 2019’s Dark Phoenix.

Jonas, who was born in Arizona, found fame with brothers Nick and Kevin with their band, Jonas Brothers, and also had a reality TV series.

The group saw chart success in the UK with their single Sucker in 2019, and also from their albums Happiness Begins and 2023 release, The Album.

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Taylor Swift endorses ‘gifted leader’ Kamala Harris minutes after Donald Trump debate

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Taylor Swift has said she will vote for Kamala Harris in the US election, giving her endorsement just minutes after the debate with Donald Trump ended.

The Instagram post showed her holding her cat Benjamin Button – a reference to Mr Trump’s running mate JD Vance‘s childless cat lady” comments.

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Swift urged her 283 million followers to “do your research,” but said AI-generated images of her supporting Mr Trump made her realise “I need to be very transparent about my actual plans”.

“I will be casting my vote for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz in the 2024 Presidential Election,” she said. “I’m voting for Kamala Harris because she fights for the rights and causes I believe need a warrior to champion them.

“I think she is a steady-handed, gifted leader and I believe we can accomplish so much more in this country if we are led by calm and not chaos.

“I was so heartened and impressed by her selection of running mate Tim Walz, who has been standing up for LGBTQ+ rights, IVF, and a woman’s right to her own body for decades.”

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Sky News US correspondent James Matthews said after her post that Swift’s endorsement is “huge” for the Harris-Walz campaign.

“She is a massive star, huge,” he said. “She speaks to people in a way that politicians do not, and the message from Taylor Swift will resonate with a huge audience far beyond the kind of people watching what has gone on here.

“The timing will not have been an accident. Tonight, the headline is Taylor Swift. Tomorrow, all the talk is going to be about Kamala Harris and Taylor Swift and the momentum that will be behind her.”

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It marks the first time Swift has spoken on the 2024 election. While the Style hitmaker did endorse Joe Biden in 2020, she did so only a month before election day.

However, despite her worldwide fame and popularity even Taylor Swift cannot escape the vicissitudes of American politics. The number of people following her on social media fell following her post.

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