Bill McKibben on Social Trust, Science, & Cryptocurrency — CleanTechnica Interview
This is the third article in a three-part series based around my recent interview with Bill McKibben, a legend in the world of climate activism and climate communication. In the first part, McKibben talked about climate grief, the climate crisis, climate activism, and US climate policy. In the beginning of the second episode, we talked about Tesla, unions, and Elon Musk. This article is about the same episode, but the second part of it, where we focused more on social trust, cryptocurrency, and Libertarianism. Personally, this was my favorite portion of the interview and I think the most important portion. (This portion of the interview starts at 13:07 into the SoundCloud and Spotify embeds below.)
In this part, I started off by asking McKibben to talk about how broken US society’s understanding of the scientific method is. I noted that we long saw this as a climate-specific problem, but that the pandemic highlighted how much it’s a broader problem, especially in times of crisis. Interestingly, McKibben quickly reframed that in an interesting and useful way:
“If you think about it, it’s not really a deep understanding of science that’s required, because I’m not sure people were way more scientifically literate in the ’50s when everyone lined up quite happily to get a polio vaccine. They were just more willing to trust in the sort of social structures of their world. And, you know, I get a front row to see what that old world kind of looks like ’cause I live in Vermont, which has the highest levels of social trust in the country, by all the ways that social scientists measure this. We’re very — you know, it’s a state full of villages. [It’s] the most rural state in the union, so people are used to governing themselves through things like town meeting every spring and things.
“Well, one result of this high level of social trust is that, despite the fact that it’s a rural state, with older people, with a Republican governor — all the things that should’ve led to big problems with COVID, it’s done a better job with it than just about any place in the world. Everybody went and got their vaccines. Everybody wore masks when they were supposed to. Those questions of social trust are really important, and they go back to some of these questions we were talking about when we were talking about, like, multi-zillionaires and things. You have to build societies that work reasonably well for everybody if you want to be able to make progress at all. Otherwise, you’ll end up in these worlds where people are full of rage and resentment and it turns to craziness — you know, someone tells them that it’s because Hillary Clinton eats babies or something, and then before long you’re off to the races. That’s the point I was trying to make before about how things are linked together.”
We talked a bit about how this attack on social trust goes back decades. I brought up former President Ronald Reagan and his attack on institutional trust with the line “I’m from the government, and I’m here to help.” McKibben recalled the whole line: “The nine scariest words in the English language are: ‘I’m from the government, and I’m here to help.’” (I’m finding via Google that he said “most terrifying” rather than “scariest,” which is even more dramatic, but I assume he used both — and they are nearly the same, of course. Also, I guess just be repeating them here we are, to some extent, reinforcing the fear mongering.) With his literary talents, McKibben then stated, “It turns out that the scariest words are ‘we ran out of ventilators or the hillside behind your house just caught on fire.’ And those are things you can’t address by yourself. That’s why you need working governments and working societies.
“Forget Elon Musk, the really dangerous billionaires in our society are people like the Koch brothers, who just have spent their entire lives working to make sure that we don’t have working societies, working governments — and have undermined that so deeply that it’s very difficult now to make the progress we need when we’re faced with an existential crisis.”
I couldn’t have said it better.
I then took that into the topic of “the cryptocurrency craze,” since I think those efforts are a big factor at play here. “It’s basically saying, ‘Let’s drop social trust and trust in governments, and go to a much more energy-intensive system because we don’t trust each other.’” I should give credit where credit is due here and recommend strongly that anyone curious about this matter read: “Why Bitcoin Truly Is Bad For The Climate & Environment, And Counter To Tesla’s Mission” and “How Does Bitcoin Work? What Is Bitcoin Mining? What Is Bitcoin Backed By?” (the former of which was written by the same author who predicted far in advance that Tesla would shift to much greater use of LFP batteries, based on his thorough first-principles analytical nature).
I said, “I mean, yeah, governments are not perfect, unions are not perfect, but they’re better than a free-for-all, don’t-trust-anyone society where we don’t put trust in each other. These all link together.”
McKibben added, “Cryptocurrency’s actually a beautiful demonstration of that, because it’s precisely — the log behind it, the stated logic behind it, is precisely what you said. We don’t want to have to trust anyone, so we trust this strange algorithm or blockchain that almost no one can actually explain to anyone.”
Before changing topics, I just felt a need to put extra emphasis on the inconvenient truth of Bitcoin and similar such systems that many fans of the concept would like to ignore: “It’s not a comparable system to like ATMs, banks, and whatnot. This is specifically a highly, extremely energy-intensive system, and even if it’s using renewables, you’re taking renewable energy potential away from other uses, and every single plan that tells us how we deal with the climate crisis says — you need a huge growth in renewables, electric vehicles, and a huge cut in energy use. …
“And you saw Tesla adopted it, saw humongous spikes in energy use and coal use — I don’t know where they found that data, but they did — and said, ‘okay, we’re not doing this any more because we saw the results.’”
McKibben rightfully and insightfully circled back to the political predecessors to this. “Your remark about Reagan before and that whole ‘the government is the problem’ thing — that’s the most important thing that happened in our political lives, in my political lifetime — the rise of this Libertarian notion that we should all just look out for ourselves — turns out to be the most dangerous of ideas, and it’s incarnated in things like Bitcoin that are quite clearly about not wanting to trust anybody else. And the fact that you have to burn a huge amount of energy in order to make it happen is just sort of the cherry on the top, you know.
“But it is unbelievably aggravating to think of people trying to desperately win this race to get more low-carbon energy out there and having, by now, non-trivial amounts — one, two percent or something of the planet’s energy — you know, the equivalent of a Scandinavian country worth of energy — being used for no good reason.”
Indeed.
McKibben also talked a bit further about the deeper history of Libertarians like the Koch brothers buying their control of the Republican Party, and the party’s now total blockade of good climate and energy policies. He also made an interesting comparison by pointing out that although those old oil, gas, and coal guys have very little in common with the Silicon Valley community, “the one place that they overlap is in this devotion to the idea everything would be better if government would just get out of their way. And everything isn’t better when government gets out of the way.” It’s an insightful link, and it does of course bring to mind Tesla’s recent decision to move its HQ to Texas, something that had not happened at the time of this interview. Texas, the land of — “We will take away voting rights. We will take away companies’ rights to mandate that their employees be vaccinated. We will take away basic rights of women. We will make it easier and incentivized for women who have been raped to also be criminalized. We will block human rights. But we will let corporations pollute as they wish and do whatever they want just as long as it isn’t too progressive.” But let me get back to what McKibben was saying:
“Yes, government is annoying, other people are annoying some of the time. Here’s a way to think about it that I try to think about it sometimes — when you think about this basic question of whether you want other people around, or whether you want to go off in a space capsule. Most people will tell you that college was maybe the best years of their lives. That’s what all the old alumns who come back to the college where I teach are always going on about. It’s not because, you know, they loved Sociology 101 so much. It was because it was the only 4 years in an American life where you actually lived the way that most people have lived for most of human history — in close physical and emotional proximity to a lot of other people. And that’s annoying. Sometimes the guy down the hall has the stereo on too loud at two in the morning. But it’s also deeply gratifying. There’s always people around to bounce ideas off of, do things with. You have a community, you know.”
I’ll leave it there. To hear more, listen to the full podcast.
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Toyota’s new EV is getting an off-road upgrade: Here’s our first look at the bZ Woodland
It’s bigger, more powerful, and built for on and off-road adventures. Toyota’s new electric SUV is getting an upgraded Woodland edition with 375 hp, added ground clearance, and a host of other outdoor-ready features. Here’s our first look at the Toyota bZ Woodland EV.
Check out the new 2026 Toyota bZ Woodland EV
Toyota is finally stepping it up. After introducing its new bZ electric SUV earlier this week, the refreshed version of the “bZ4X,” Toyota unveiled a more powerful, off-road Woodland model on Thursday.
Unlike the bZ, the Woodland model has standard all-wheel drive (AWD). Powered by dual electric motors, Toyota’s rugged new EV packs 375 hp, or 37 hp more than the AWD version of the bZ electric SUV (338 hp).
It also offers added capability, with up to 3,500 lb towing capacity, 8.3″ of ground clearance, and available All-Terrain tires.
Although the bZ Woodland features Toyota’s new “hammerhead front end” with a full-length LED light bar, it adds a twist with black overfenders and a wide, powerful stance.
The outdoor-focused electric SUV is nearly 6″ longer, opening up an extra 30 cubic feet of cargo space. It also gains a standard roof rack and 18″ aluminum wheels.
Powered by a 74.7 kWh battery, Toyota expects the bZ Woodland to have a driving range of up to 260 miles. Like the bZ, it will also have a native NACS charging port to access Tesla Superchargers. Using DC fast charging, the electric SUV can recharge from 10% to 80% in roughly 30 minutes.
Other added features, including battery pre-conditioning and Plug & Charge capabilities, improve charging performance while making it easy to find and navigate to stations.
The interior looks about the same as Toyota’s other EV models, with a 14-inch infotainment and driver display screens. Toyota’s Audio Multimedia system powers the infotainment and supports standard Apple CarPlay and Android Auto capabilities.
All bZ Woodland models will have heated SofTex®-trimmed seats for the driver and front passenger and a choice of Stone Brown or Black coloring.
Upgrading to the bZ Woodland Premium package gains a premium JBL Audio System, panoramic roof, ventilated front seats, and a front radiant heater.
The bZ Woodland is Toyota’s third EV to launch in the US, joining the new 2026 C-HR and bZ electric SUVs. It’s expected to arrive at dealerships in early 2026. Toyota will reveal prices closer to launch, but the upgraded off-road Woodland model is expected to start a bit higher at around $50,000. Check back soon for official prices.
Would you buy Toyota’s rugged new electric SUV for around $50,000? You’ll have the chance soon. Drop us a comment below and let us know your thoughts.
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Arc, the company behind the powerful Arc One and Arc Sport electric boats, announced its next model today: the Arc Coast, a center console boat with many of the capabilities of its predecessors at a significantly lower price.
As a reminder, Arc is a relatively new company, founded in 2021 in Los Angeles, targeting the luxury boat market with high-powered electric boats. Its cofounders, Mitch Lee and Ryan Cook, are engineers who met while working at Boeing.
The company has since grown to over 170 employees, and boasts that many of them are former SpaceX, Tesla, and Rivian workers (like, well, every other electric startup).
It started with the Arc One, a $300,000 limited-edition 500hp electric speedboat, of which only 20 were made. Then Arc moved onto the Sport, a powerful wake boat made for lake activities (which we drove and it literally knocked us off our seat), starting at $258k. It’s also working on an electric tugboat for the Port of LA.
Sales are going well with a substantial backlog and the Sport is sold out through the summer. It’s currently hoping to ramp up production of the Sport “into the hundreds of boats a year,” but it isn’t there yet.
But even while it ramps Sport production, it’s looking to address other markets, and its new Arc Coast announced today is an impressive stab at that.
The Arc Coast is a “center console” model. For those of us in the car world, it might sound confusing to name a vehicle after one of its parts, but the term makes for a meaningful distinction on a boat: the helm (or “console”), where the pilot operates the boat, is smack in the middle, offering mobility all around the edges of the deck.
This mobility is helpful for certain applications, for example fishing. Being able to move around all sides of the boat means that your rod won’t get caught up on rigging or a canopy.
It also just makes it easier to hang out and get around the boat. Instead of having to squeeze between seats or flip open a door to get towards the bow, you can just walk all around the boat without much obstruction.
However, these types of boats tend to have less luxuriant upholstery, less protection from the elements (sun shades, windshields, etc), less sitting space than other boat formats.
Because of this, Arc has been able to save a good amount of money on materials, and it allows them to offer the Coast model with similar performance and many of the same features as its others, but at a lower price.
- Length: 24ft
- Battery: 226kWh (the same as the Sport’s battery, which was good for 4-5 hours of use there)
- Horsepower: 400hp
- Top speed: 50mph (~43 knots)
- Hull Material: Fiberglass
- Seating: 10 people
- Pricing: Starting at $168,000
The Arc Coast maintains the benefits of its electric powertrain, which Arc highlights that it designed and built from the ground up. By starting from scratch and designing a boat around its own powertrain, instead of just building a fiberglass hull and attaching an off-the-shelf outboard (like the vast majority of other center console boats) and console gauges from random suppliers, Arc is able to offer a more consistent experience.
It’s the same thing we at Electrek notice and comment on in automobiles – cars that were built from the ground up to be electric generally do a better job of it than cars which are retrofitted from gas models or share platforms with them.
Arc thinks that the difference is even starker in boats, as outboard motors are notoriously unreliable and offering a properly-sealed electric powertrain will make maintenance much easier, even in harsher saltwater environments (as compared to the Sport model, which was more freshwater-focused).
It also offers usability benefits. By moving to inboard motors, the rear of the boat can be utilized for a low swim step, making ingress and egress easier, and a sunpad for lounging. It also takes away the fumes and noise that normally plague the back end of a fossil-powered boat, giving you more usable space and making it much more pleasant to hang out back there.
That usability carries over into the boat’s software, which Arc has also designed from the ground up in a modern, consistent interface. When we saw this ourselves on the Sport we were impressed, though the software wasn’t done yet (and will surely be in a constant state of getting updates for some time to come).
This interface includes connectivity and over-the-air updates, which offer big benefits for a boat owner as it’s a lot easier to check your boat’s charge, or perhaps see a feed from the boat’s cameras, through an app rather than having to head down to the marina and take a look yourself.
We haven’t yet had a chance to try out the Arc Coast – and in fact, you’ll notice that the photos and videos on this page are backlit renders, as Arc is still working on some of the specifics. Nevertheless, preorders are open today over at Arc’s website, and Arc says the boat is “coming in 2026.”
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eVTOL developer Archer Aviation has signed on as the official air taxi partner of the 2028 Olympic Games in Los Angeles. As a partner to the event and Team USA, Archer’s Midnight eVTOL aircraft will transport VIPs, fans, and athletes around event venues in the Los Angeles metropolitan area.
Archer Aviation ($ACHR) appears poised to be the first eVTOL developer to bring commercial air taxi rides to the skies above the US. Leading up to today’s news, Archer had announced partnerships to establish zero-emission air taxi networks in several global regions, including Japan and the UAE, and flights in its native US.
For example, Archer unveiled an initial route map for air taxi operations in New York City last month alongside details of an ongoing partnership with United Airlines. The pending air taxi network includes vertiports at JFK, LaGuardia, and Newark Airports around NYC and a presence at regional airports and three helipads in the city itself.
The NYC air taxi network was preceded by plans for an eVTOL air mobility network coming to Los Angeles, announced in August 2024. At the time, the company said it is targeting initial eVTOL operations in the Los Angeles metropolitan area by 2026, long before the influx of global visitors for the 2028 Olympic Games.
Today, Archer announced that it has become the official air taxi provider for visitors to the Los Angeles Olympic Games.
Archer to take air taxis to the skies above the 2028 Olympic Games
According to an update from Archer Aviation, it has signed a partnership to be the exclusive air taxi provider for the LA28 Olympic Games. In this partnership, Archer Aviation will integrate its flagship Midnight eVTOL aircraft into transport operations and support Team USA
The Archer eVTOL is expected to transport Olympic VIPs, fans, and company stakeholders around the 2028 games’ locations, utilizing vertiport hubs at key venues. The eVTOL developer said its sustainable aerial technology will also support emergency services and security. Per Archer founder and CEO Adam Goldstein:
We want to transform the way people get around Los Angeles and leave a legacy that shapes the future of transportation in America. There’s no better time to do that than during the LA28 Games. I can’t wait to see Midnight flying passengers over Los Angeles, emblazoned with the Team USA logo and the Olympic Rings and Paralympic Agitos.
eVTOL vertiports are planned for SoFi stadium in Inglewood and the Memorial Coliseum on the USC campus. Other locations include visitor hubs at LAX Airport, Hollywood, Orange County, and Santa Monica. The 2028 Olympic Games are expected to welcome over 15 million visitors from around the world, some of whom will have an opportunity to experience some of the first-ever air taxi rides in the US.
Archer’s Midnight eVTOL can transport up to four passengers at a time and is significantly quieter than other traditional forms of aerial transportation, such as helicopters. The Midnight aircraft will be assembled at Archer’s manufacturing facilities in San Jose, California, and its newly erected facility in Covington, Georgia.
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