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Tesla’s driverless robotaxi has been spotted in Austin for the first time, but it is being followed by a trailing car with a driver.
CEO Elon Musk now says that Tesla aims to “tentatively” start its service on June 22.
Tesla now plans to operate its own small internal fleet of vehicles with dedicated software optimized for a geo-fenced area of Austin and supported by “plenty of teleoperation.”
The company has been discussing the launch of its paid service in June, but as we reported, it only officially began the “testing” phase earlier this week, according to Austin’s official website.
In comparison, Waymo tested its system, which was already in operation driverless in other cities, for 6 months with safety drivers and 6 months without safety drivers before launching its service in Austin earlier this year.
Now, a Tesla Model Y without a driver was spotted in Austin for the first time:
From the video, we can see that a second Tesla vehicle is trailing the driverless vehicle, likely with a remote teleoperator ready to take control or activate a kill switch.
As we previously reported, Tesla has been building a team of teleoperators to remotely control its vehicles when needed.
Just this week, days before the planned launch of the service, Tesla has posted a new job listing for engineers to build a teleoperation system with as low latency as possible.
Having a trailing car can address the latency problem.
After sharing the video above, Musk highlighted that these are unmodified Model Ys, like the ones that Tesla delivers to customers. This prompted someone to ask when Tesla plans to deliver unsupervised self-driving to customers, as he promised every Tesla vehicle produced since 2016 would be capable of doing.
Musk didn’t confirm it, but he said that the custom software running on those vehicles have about 4 times more parameters than the current version (FSD v13) in customers vehicles and he could see that being deployed in the customer fleet later this year:
It’s a new version of software, but will merge to main branch soon. We have a more advanced model in alpha stage that has ~4X the params, but still requires a lot of polishing. That’s probably ready for deploy in a few months.
As we previously reported, this fleet deployment in Austin is quite a moving of the goal post for Tesla, which has been promising unsupervised self-driving in all vehicles since 2016.
This service is only going to work in a geo-fenced area where Tesla is optimizing its FSD software to perform better, and it is supported by teleoperation, something that can’t be scaled to the customer fleet.
Electrek’s Take
I don’t know why Musk wants to emphasize that Tesla is using the same vehicles it delivers to customers as if it’s a giant advantage over Waymo.
We know that Tesla’s hardware approach is much cheaper than Waymo. That’s not new. The real question has always been about safety and performance.
I can see this program eventually helping FSD progress, but as you can see, Musk is not stating that unsupervised self-driving in customer vehicles will be achieved when the new customer version of FSD, which comes out of this custom software, reaches the market.
Even if this 10x the miles between disengagement in the current version, which would be impressive, Tesla would still only be at about 5,000 miles. That’s behind the competition and nowhere near what’s needed for level 4 unsupervised self-driving.
At this point, I expect Tesla to start admitting that HW4 will not support unsupervised self-driving in customer vehicles by the end of 2026.
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Porsche is preparing to release its Cayenne EV in the next year or so, but that didn’t stop it from taking the car out in secret to a hillclimb meet, where it utterly destroyed the previous course record previously held by a 12-cylinder Bentley Bentayga.
Hillclimbing is a specialized sort of racing where cars start at the bottom of a hill and then race to the top of it. And it’s a type of racing where electric cars do quite well because of their high amounts of instant torque and fast low-end acceleration.
We’ve covered some other hillclimbs before, such as the famous Pike’s Peak hillclimb, where EVs shattered records last year, and where Ford is running an unrecognizably modified Mach-E this year in just a couple weeks. EVs do well here due to the race’s high altitude, which leads to inefficient combustion from gas-powered cars due to low oxygen in the air, which EVs don’t have to worry about.
And hillclimbing is popular in the UK, where courses are much shorter than the brutal 12.42-mile “race to the clouds” at Pike’s Peak. Most UK courses are more like a mile long, give or take.
Another course, part of the British Hill Climb Championship, is Shelsley Walsh, where this last weekend’s news happened. The race was first contested in 1905, with a length of 1,000 yards (910m, .57mi).
So, it’s just a sprint, and it’s a sprint that a Cayenne EV just absolutely destroyed every other car in its class on – even though the car isn’t out yet. It’s expected to get a full unveil later this year, but that didn’t stop Porsche from flexing its muscles ahead of release.
Porsche took a prototype version of its upcoming EV out to Shelsley Walsh, where it was looking to beat a record previously set by the Bentley Bentayga W12, an absolutely bonkers ultra-luxe SUV with a massive 12 cylinder, 6 liter twin-turbo engine capable of producing 600hp.
But that gigantic engine proved to be no challenge for the Cayenne, which crushed the antiquated dino-burner’s record by several seconds.
On such a short lap, records are often set by tenths or hundreds of a second, but the Cayenne EV beat the Bentayga’s 35.53 second record by more than four whole seconds, setting a new time of 31.28. Watch it below (the Cayenne EV’s part starts at 2:36:30, if the deep-link doesnt work):
(*Porsche told us those engine sounds are from another vehicle near the microphone, not from the Cayenne EV itself)
In the video, the Cayenne is extremely well behaved up the course, exhibiting very little body roll for such a large vehicle. This is owing to the low center of gravity characteristic of many EVs, due to the weight of the car being in the battery at the bottom of the vehicle, and to Porsche’s active suspension.
And on such a short run, the instant acceleration of the Porsche gave it a lasting advantage over the hulking Bentayga W12, allowing it to crush the previous record.
The Cayenne EV was driven by Gabriela Jilkova, Porsche’s development driver for its Formula E team. It even beat the production electric car record which was previously held by another Porsche, the Taycan Turbo. That record was 31.43 seconds, so the Cayenne was just able to pip it.
It isn’t, however, the fastest electric vehicle up the hill – that’s currently a 30.46, set in 2018 by Mitch Evans in a Jaguar Formula E car (from an earlier generation – surely the new Gen 3 EVO cars would be even quicker).
As of now, we still have no final numbers on what sort of specs the Porsche Cayenne will have, as the vehicle is still in prototype form and hasn’t gone through homologation. So, Porsche is still figuring it out like the rest of us, but from these results, it looks like they’ve got something good on their hands.
Electrek’s Take
Now this is just one race, and not a particularly famously-contested one. There are surely cars that haven’t run this hill that would beat the Cayenne up it. But 4 seconds is a huge record on such a short course, and is certainly a shot across the bow, such that we can’t wait to see where else Porsche takes this thing and what other gas SUVs it might be able to embarrass.
It also handled very well for a large vehicle (and it is indeed large – almost twice the weight of my own EV, a Tesla Roadster). An SUV is still not a sportscar, but I had no particular misgivings when driving it… except perhaps that maybe it was too powerful, and that I preferred the 4S since I just never knew when I would need the amount of power the Turbo could put down.
So I’m not surprised that its bigger sibling, the Cayenne EV, would also perform extremely well here. Porsche knows how to make a car and how to make it perform well, and somehow they’ve even brought that magic to a vehicle as big as the Cayenne EV.
So, I’m looking forward to a time that I get to bring the Cayenne EV to a Porsche meetup, just like I did with the Macan, and have another dad tell his child “you wanna see the fastest car here? it’s that one.” And it’ll have the records to prove it.
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EVs got a little more affordable in May, and Tesla’s price drop had a lot to do with that. According to new data from Kelley Blue Book, the average transaction price (ATP) for a new EV in May was $57,734. That’s down from $59,123 in April. Year-over-year, that’s a 1.1% drop.
At the same time, incentives are heating up. The average EV incentive in May hit $8,225, or 14.2% of the ATP. That’s more than double the average incentive across the broader auto industry and higher than last May’s 12%. According to Cox Automotive, that makes May the most incentive-heavy month since what Cox Automotive calls the beginning of the modern EV era, which is when EVs passed the 1% market share mark, in 2018.
Tesla’s prices played a big role in this shift. The company’s ATPs dropped 1.5% in May, landing at $55,277. Year-over-year, Tesla prices are down 2.8%.
The Model 3 and the Cybertruck inched up in price in May, but just barely – less than 1%. Every other Tesla model saw prices fall month-over-month. The Model Y, Tesla’s top seller and the most popular EV in the US, dropped 2.9% from April to an average price of $53,895.
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