
‘Run, Forrest, run!’: How good a football player was Forrest Gump, really?
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“He must be the stupidest son of a b—- alive! But he sure is fast!”
— “Bear Bryant” speaking of Forrest Gump in “Forrest Gump”
It was 30 years ago this fall that “Forrest Gump,” the story of a gentle soul who ended up traveling the globe, meeting presidents and filling the world with wisdom such as “Life is like a box of chocolates,” and “Stupid is as stupid does,” was running through the box office and toward six Academy Awards, including Best Picture, Best Actor for Tom Hanks and Best Director for Robert Zemeckis.
If you are a true Gump believer — and judging by the film’s $678 million gross, the 2.5 million copies sold of Winston Groom’s book that inspired the film, the brisk sales of its recent 30th anniversary Blu-Ray re-release, not to mention the line of people I recently saw waiting to eat at Bubba Gump Shrimp Co. in Times Square, there are many — then you also know that this fall also marks 60 years since the kid from fictional Greenbow, Alabama, became an All-America kick returner for Bear Bryant’s Alabama Crimson Tide.
Forrest Gump, wearing No. 44, scored the very first time he touched the football, a 99½-yard kickoff return against a team that appears to be the Vanderbilt Commodores. He went end zone to end zone, including a crossfield detour mid-return as he ran toward Bryant on the Bama sideline. Then he added at least another 50 yards because he didn’t stop after crossing the goal line and kept churning through the Legion Field tunnel and presumably into downtown Birmingham.
Now, amid these two very important anniversaries, and as his alma mater runs into Week 13 with an eye on running into the College Football Playoff, we ask a crucial, crimson-tinted question: Just how good at football was Forrest Gump, really?
“It’s been a while since I really broke down his film, but what I did see back in the day made an impact on me,” current Alabama head coach Kalen DeBoer confessed during a chat about how, after taking the job as Top Tider, he immersed himself in the program’s unparalleled history. “He was raw, but fast and coachable. No coach is ever going to turn down a kid with that combination.”
Not even the Bear.
“And that’s what I did. I ran clear across Alabama.”
There are no official statistics for Forrest Gump’s time at Alabama. Trust us, we asked the sports information office as well as the Bear Bryant Museum, located on the Tuscaloosa campus. They had nothing, forcing us to show some, ahem, gumption, and piece together what we could, based on what we do know.
We know that Gump was a student at the University of Alabama on June 11, 1963, because he was an eyewitness to George Wallace’s Stand in the Schoolhouse Door, when the governor of Alabama made a symbolic attempt to prevent two Black students from enrolling for class, in opposition to school integration.
We also know that Gump had already played at least one season of football before that, because we see Bryant and his staff flabbergasted as they watch the TV news and see their return specialist returning a notebook to one of those students, Vivian Malone, after she drops it in front of Wallace, protesters and the National Guard.
We also know that his first All-America season had to be 1962, because he met John F. Kennedy at the White House (and drank all his Dr Peppers). JFK died on Nov. 22, 1963, before the All-America roster for that year would have been chosen.
We also know that when Gump graduates from Alabama, he says, “Can you believe it? After only five years of playing football, I got a college degree.”
So it would appear that Gump’s time with the Tide likely ran from 1959 to 1963, and that makes sense. If you don’t recall, Gump caught Bryant’s attention when, while running from a truckload of bullies, he unknowingly sprinted the length of the Greenbow High Braves’ stadium in front of the Bear. That would have been the fall of ’58, Bryant’s first fall in Tuscaloosa and in the middle of a rebuilding 5-4-1 campaign. The kind of season that would make a college football coach desperate enough to sign a kid who was described to him as “just the local idiot” with an IQ that we know to be 75.
Back then, freshmen didn’t play. Neither did Gump in ’59. The following year, the Tide’s third game of the season was also their first at Legion Field against … Vanderbilt. That’s the first TD return we see in the movie. The next one comes at the same stadium, and clearly in a later season, because the home crowd has figured out to unfurl “Stop Forrest!” signs to prevent him from making any more tunnel sprints. This is also at Legion Field, and the opponent appears to be wearing the distinctive colors of the Tulane Green Wave. And the real life Tide did indeed play and defeat Tulane in 1961.
See? We’re figuring this out!
If this was indeed the Forrest Gump Era of Alabama football, there was nothing stupid about it. During his presumed four years on the roster, the Tide posted a record of 38-4-1 and an SEC mark of 24-4-1, went 3-0-1 in bowl games and also won the first of Bryant’s six national titles in 1961.
“Of course, it didn’t hurt that his quarterback was Joe Namath,” noted Dr. Carl Miller, professor and chair of the English department at Palm Beach Atlantic University. “Anyone who ever talked to Winston Groom about Alabama football knows how he felt about Joe Namath.”
“Always be able to look back and say, at least I didn’t lead no humdrum life.”
When Groom wrote the book “Forrest Gump” in 1986, the story of a boy with a low IQ who spends a lifetime unlocking pockets of true brilliance, it was inspired by two of his own life experiences. The first was a tale his father told him often, about a kid in his neighborhood who was relentlessly teased and bullied by local kids because of his apparent lack of intelligence. But when his parents bought a piano, that same kid suddenly began filling the neighborhood with the most amazing music, having taken nary a lesson. The second spark came from Groom’s time as a football-crazed student at the University of Alabama.
“When I was on the English faculty at Alabama, I proposed a course on the history of college football in literature, and we convinced Winston to participate,” said Miller, who grew up a dedicated Ohio State fan but came to love the Crimson Tide after four years of teaching in Tuscaloosa. His class covered topics ranging from college football in literature (see: F. Scott Fitzgerald’s “The Curious Case of Benjamin Button”) to the game’s secret history of steering academics (why do you think the Ivy League was formed?). “Winston Groom’s freshman year was 1961, Bryant’s first national title, and his final year was ’64, Bryant’s second national title. And he would always say, ‘You should have seen Namath before he blew out his knee,'”
Groom, who died Sept. 17, 2020, just as his beloved Tide were beginning their roll toward Nick Saban’s sixth and final national title in T-Town, often said that being a student during the Bryant era taught him “the importance of winning.” He liked to compare being the author of a book to being a head coach. “As a writer, you are the commanding general,” he explained to Miller’s class in 2012. “It is your job to make sure that everything you do is as perfect as you can get it.”
Groom’s written version of Gump was far less perfect than the character in the film. The film version was also a hell of a lot smaller. In the movie, Gump’s frame is an even 6 feet tall, weighing in at 175 pounds, which is what Tom Hanks describes as his frame at the time. In the novel, Gump is massive, standing 6-6 and making the scales creak at a hefty 240. On the written page, he doesn’t return kicks. Groom’s Bryant envisions Gump as a wide receiver and has him constantly drilling pass routes in practice. But when Gump struggles to mentally digest the playbook, Bear decides to pivot to a strategy of “We is gonna turn your big ass loose,” and Forrest Gump becomes a halfback.
In his first game, the season opener against Georgia, Gump scores four touchdowns in a 35-3 rout of the Dawgs. The Tide won the national title during a time when titles were awarded before bowl games were played. Good thing. The semi-fictional Bama team lost to Nebraska in the Orange Bowl after Kenny Stabler, who was supposed to throw the ball to No. 44 for what would have been Gump’s third TD of the game, instead threw it out of bounds when he mistakenly thought it was third down, not fourth.
“As with most of what Winston wrote about Gump and college football, that was based in truth,” Miller said. “The ’64 team went undefeated in the regular season and won the national championship but lost to Texas in the Orange Bowl. And Kenny Stabler did make that infamous mistake, but it was in the Tennessee game the following year.”
“Now you wouldn’t believe me if I told you, but I could run like the wind blows.”
Almost exactly six decades after Stabler’s mistake that led to a tie, the Vols and Tide were once again on the field for the Third Saturday in October. It was Oct. 19, 2024, and 101,910 of the 101,915 people in attendance were watching No. 7 Alabama battle No. 11 Tennessee in Knoxville. The five who were not were hunkered down in a corner of the Neyland Stadium media box. A sportswriter was showing four NFL scouts footage of a fictional college football player and asking for a talent assessment.
Said one: “He’s too one-dimensional. It’s all straight-line, like a track guy trying to become a football player.”
Replied another: “Who gives a damn about that? Look how fast he is. Has anyone clocked him?”
They were told that in the novel, Bryant says Gump runs the “hunrit yards” in 9.5 seconds. But before it could be explained what that translates to in NFL draft combine 40-yard dash speed, one of the scouts already had a watch on Gump’s TD return against Tulane.
“I’ve got him at 4.5 in the 40. Sign his ass up,” he declared. “I’m not using a high-round draft pick on him. My bosses wouldn’t do that anyway because you know he’s going to bomb the s— out of the interviews. But if we can take guys who have never played football and turn them into All-Pros just based on how strong or fast they are” — see: Ziggy Ansah and current Bills OT Travis Clayton — “then I think I’d take a chance on a dude this fast.”
Some 500 miles south of Knoxville, in Mobile, Alabama, another group of evaluators watched that same film, the only game film that exists of their local hero. Among them is Jim Nagy, senior director of the Reese’s Senior Bowl, the launching pad for countless college-to-pro football prospects.
“He clearly lacks some focus,” he said. “Great straight-line speed but, man, he looks straight-line. A really linear athlete. Not gonna make many people miss, but he hits it. He’s pulling away; he’s got some juice.”
Then Nagy sounds like novel-version Bear Bryant. “As a receiver, what are we going to do with this guy? He’s kind of a one-trick pony … but I think we could get something out of him on vertical routes, go routes. Down here at the Senior Bowl, he’d be a hard guy to defend on one-on-ones.”
Ultimately, Nagy and his staff decided they would extend an invitation to Gump for the Senior Bowl. After all, Gump did grow up just down the road in Greenbow. But there are two problems. Gump is too senior for the Senior Bowl. He’s around 84 years old now. Also, Greenbow doesn’t exist. Neither does the Legion Field he ran over and through and out of. Well, it does, sort of …
“Some people don’t think miracles happen. Well, they do.”
Gump’s home stadium in the movie is located a couple of time zones west of Alabama. Who knows? Perhaps during his 3-year, 2-month, 14-day and 16-hour crisscrossing run of America, Gump looked over his shoulder along Chavez Avenue at the football stadium of East Los Angeles College and thought to himself, “Well, that place looks familiar.”
Weingart Stadium was built in 1951, home of the ELAC Huskies. After a major renovation in 1984, the seating capacity was boosted to 22,355. That’s big for a community college, but not big enough to resemble Legion Field. So director Robert Zemeckis turned to his longtime collaborator and special effects legend Ken Ralston, the original Industrial Light & Magic guru who helped shape the Star Wars galaxy and helped Zemeckis send Doc Brown’s gigawatts-powered DeLorean back to the future.
Ralston and his crew took a group of several hundred extras dressed as Alabama fans and moved them from section to section of Weingart Stadium, eventually piecing each frame of film together like a jigsaw puzzle. This created not only a backdrop of packed stands, but also the added illusion of an upper deck. For Gump’s kick return action scenes, stadium flip cards spelled out “GO ALABAMA,” “GO FORREST” and “STOP.”
“This was kind of at the start of all the computerized special effects we have now, so when you were there the place was empty, but then when you saw the movie you were like, ‘Where’d all those people come from?'” recalled Sonny Shroyer, who played Bear Bryant. If you recognize the name, it’s because he was also Enos, the hapless deputy from “The Dukes of Hazzard.” Enos donned the houndstooth fedora at ELAC as well as Beaufort, South Carolina, where the stand-in for Greenbow High was located. “I can tell you this, though: There were no special effects used for the double who ran for Tom Hanks in the wide shots. That guy could fly. And then when we did the close-ups, it turned out that Tom could too.”
Shroyer, who accepted a football scholarship to Florida State but after injuries graduated from Georgia, was in the same room with Bryant once, at a charity golf tournament hosted by fellow TV icon George Lindsay, aka Goober from “The Andy Griffith Show.” So, with those credentials, an evaluation of Forrest Gump the football player, please, Enos … er, Coach Bryant?
“All I know is I saw him touch the ball twice and he scored twice.”
“Momma always said you can tell a lot about a person by their shoes, where they’re going, where they’ve been.”
Gabriel Mangrum has seen Forrest Gump touch the ball much more than that. Like, 281 times to be exact. Mangrum, known as GManski to his social media followers, is a former wide receiver for the Fitchburg (Massachusetts) State Falcons who graduated earlier this year with a degree in film and theater. Born in Texas and a diehard Dallas Cowboys fan, the aspiring actor was already posting his meticulous football talent evaluations to social media. Then he started doing the same with famous football players from the silver screen, everyone from Rudy Ruettiger to “The Waterboy.”
When the resurrected EA Sports College Football video game dropped earlier this year, Mangrum painstakingly created Forrest Gump — a 99 rating for speed, lowest possible rating for intelligence — added him to the current Crimson Tide roster and proceeded to manually play every single Alabama down in season mode to see what would happen.
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“I rated him a one-star because he was literally coming off the street, just as he did in the movie,” Mangrum explained of his Gump creation. Of course, the PS5 processor didn’t start Gump. He didn’t even play. But Mangrum also ran every weekday practice session between games, and No. 44’s speed became too much to ignore. By midseason, he was on the field. And just as happened in both the book and movie, the first time digital Forrest Gump got his hands on the football, he ran straight to paydirt.
“When I ran with him, I worked hard to run just like he did in the movie,” Mangrum said. “He never jukes. Ever. And when he cuts, he turns his whole body, runs toward the sideline, and then turns toward the end zone, whole body again. That’s what I did. And he couldn’t be stopped.”
Forrest Gump’s final virtual 2024 stats: 1,487 yards, good for second in the nation (and 184 more than Boise State Heisman hopeful Ashton Jeanty), via only 206 rushes, good for an FBS-best 7.2 yards per carry; 165.2 yards per game and 17 touchdowns, also second in the nation. In addition, Gump hauled in 75 catches for 1,065 yards and nine TDs, easily the best among running backs. Along the way, the All-American led the Tide to a national title, as Bama beat Notre Dame 43-0 in the CFP National Championship game, of which Gump was named Most Outstanding Player.
“The only issues were that he didn’t fumble much, but when he did, it was usually at the worst time,” Mangrum said, adding, “And you might have noticed that at LSU, during the pregame, Forrest is over there celebrating with the wrong team.”
“What’s my destiny, Mama?” “You’re gonna have to figure that out for yourself.”
We attempted to interview the man who played Gump himself, while Hanks was making the promotional rounds for his latest film, “Here,” also directed by Zemeckis and costarring the actress who played Gump’s girlfriend Jenny, Robin Wright. His brief response was a reminder that he was no college football skills expert. He’s more of a baseball guy. Though it is worth noting that he did get in a vicious shot on behalf of his faux alma mater ahead of last year’s Alabama-LSU game.
During a speech at the World War II Museum in New Orleans, which he co-founded, he said, “Hope, faith, and collective effort may even lead to LSU beating Alabama tomorrow. If that can happen, ladies and gentlemen, we can accomplish anything.”
Tom Hanks, who famously played fictional Alabama football player Forrest Gump, makes a brief comment about LSU’s upcoming game against the Crimson Tide during a speech at a World War II museum in New Orleans. pic.twitter.com/RbAgv7zON7
— Alabama Crimson Tide | AL.com (@aldotcomTide) November 3, 2023
While not ready to play the role of an NFL scout, the two-time Oscar winner did praise the physical prowess that came with becoming No. 44.
“I worked out quite a bit, and it was all running. My buttocks, as Forrest would put it, were in particularly spectacular condition. If it shows up on our television, as it will from time to time, my wife [actress Rita Wilson] will request that it stay on until she gets to see me running away from the camera. My touchdown play, as it were.”
The touchdown play for this story came just as “Here” was arriving in theaters. It came Nov. 8 in Oxford, Mississippi, on the eve of Ole Miss’s rainy upset victory over Georgia. Trying to explain the premise of this story to a media pal, this very writer bemoaned, “The only thing missing is a chance to talk to Forrest Gump himself.”
The pal replied, pointing, “Well, why don’t you? There he is.”
And he was. Like a mirage on a desert highway around the 1-hour, 57-minute mark of an Oscar-winning film, Forrest Gump himself was running around the Grove, attempting to crash the show of another Alabama legend, Paul Finebaum. I shouted to him, “Run, Forrest, run! Over here!”
When you’re working on a Forrest Gump story and assume you won’t be able to interview Forrest Gump but then you’re at The Grove in Oxford and Forrest Gump shows up… pic.twitter.com/FfhpDkyfwg
— Ryan McGee (@ESPNMcGee) November 20, 2024
My question was simple. Forrest Gump, you didn’t get to play much college football, at least that we saw. So how do you think you would have fared in the National Football League?
“Aw man, I’d still be running. But I hit that portal. There’s a big party in the ‘Sip. So, Hotty Toddy ever since I left Bama. Life couldn’t be any better …” Then Forrest (real name: John Nance) broke into a dance.
The touchdown dance of a man with an IQ of 75, but an EA Sports talent rating of 99.
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GLENDALE, Ariz. — One team is a worldwide attraction, fresh off its eighth World Series title. The other just lost an MLB record 121 games and hasn’t won a playoff series since 2005. The one thing they have in common?
A spring training parking lot.
Both the Los Angeles Dodgers and Chicago White Sox reside at Camelback Ranch during February and March, but life couldn’t be more different as the two franchises prepare for a new season.
When Dodgers players reported to camp earlier this month, their clubhouse looked like a who’s who of MLB All-Stars, while a trip through the White Sox’s side of the building required frequent glances at the nameplates above the locker stalls to know who was who.
In the days since arriving, the Dodgers have been asked regularly about the opportunity to repeat. The White Sox are contemplating a host of other questions: How do you restore confidence in the clubhouse? What message of optimism can you deliver after a historic season of losing?
Even the Dodgers’ morning workouts, normally a mundane early spring ritual, have served as a celebration of the team that ruled baseball last October and dominated the offseason headlines again, with 1,000-plus fans showing up to get a glimpse of their favorite players. On the White Sox side of the facility, ESPN counted only 21 fans taking in one recent workout.
Still, entering a year in which their focus will be on finding the positives wherever they can, the White Sox are looking at the upside of sharing a spring home with the team certain to be the talk of baseball all season long.
“It’s a great opportunity to be matched up in a facility with a team that won the World Series, to have something to aim towards,” general manager Chris Getz said. “How do we get to beat them? How can we compete? So yeah, the Dodgers have been a very successful organization. With that being said, we know what we need to do and we’re set out to do that.”
For Chicago, the season will be measured mostly by the steps taken by young players, and despite the ups-and-downs that come with trying to integrate them into a major league roster, the on-the-field results must add up to a better record than last year’s 41-121 mark.
“I do think we’re going to win more games than we did last year,” Getz said as camp opened. “Unfortunately, there are going to be some growing pains along the way that at times is going to challenge your emotions, but that’s part of the development of some of these players.
“Last year provided a lot of clarity for a lot of people, including myself. We had a lot of work to do, a lot more changes that needed to be made and we were able to accomplish a lot of that this offseason and that started with hiring Will Venable.”
Venable is the first-time manager who checks all the boxes the front office was looking for when it set out to find someone to guide the White Sox through a fresh start. The 42-year-old former major league outfielder retired within the last decade and has since worked under some of the best managers in the business, including Joe Maddon, Alex Cora and Bruce Bochy.
“It’s really about being present and doing the things that we can control now,” Venable said of his opening message to his team.
Venable’s roster is missing last season’s best player, left-hander Garrett Crochet, who was traded to the Red Sox during the offseason. It does feature a smattering of holdovers, such as Luis Robert Jr. and Andrew Vaughn and Andrew Benintendi (although the start of the outfielder’s season will come later after suffering a broken hand on Thursday), who are hungry for an opportunity to be remembered for something other than last season’s futility.
“When I signed here, I signed for five years knowing that there could be ups and downs, but I’m here for it and it’s my job to go out there and perform,” Benintendi said. “And last year I didn’t do that. And not only do I feel like I let the fans or team down, I think (I let) myself down. You have such high expectations going into a season and when you don’t hit them, it’s frustrating, but you just gotta keep going.”
The White Sox also added a group of journeyman free agents looking to reboot their careers — including Joey Gallo, Brandon Drury and Michael A. Taylor — who were signed to short-term deals with an opportunity to compete for the playing time they weren’t as likely to get elsewhere.
But the real excitement on Chicago’s side of Camelback Ranch this spring is about a group of prospects — six of which appear on ESPN’s Kiley McDaniel’s top 100 list, including lefties Noah Schultz and Hagen Smith, the team’s top picks in the 2022 and 2024 drafts, respectively. Both made their spring debuts last Wednesday, but won’t break camp with the big league club. Also providing promise for the future is catcher Kyle Teel, who was the centerpiece of the White Sox’s return for Crochet, and shortstop Colson Montgomery, who homered in the team’s first spring game.
“We brought in a lot of really good veterans, so it’s really cool just to talk to them, pick their brains, not even about baseball, just kind of how they go about their business, how you go about yourself as a pro,” Montgomery said. “We also have a lot of really young talent and I think that’s what the fans and everybody should be really excited for.”
Envisioning a future with Montgomery anchoring the lineup while Schultz and Hagen top the rotation has helped Getz stay the course in Chicago’s rebuild even as the losses at the major league level have piled up.
“There’s no time to complain. And there’s no one really to complain to,” Getz said. “We got our hands dirty and got to work. There honestly wasn’t a day to get away from it because we didn’t want to get away from it. We wanted to dive in and continue to build this forward.
“Physically, mentally you rid yourself of negative things, but I personally have just channeled it for motivation to get better. And I know that is a cliché, in itself, but it’s the truth of the matter.”
Across the parking lot earlier this week, after watching $325 million starter Yoshinobu Yamamoto throw a bullpen session, Dodgers president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman reflected on the plight of his White Sox counterpart.
Friedman and Getz sometimes meet on the backfields at Camelback Ranch. Friedman sympathizes with Getz, despite the vast disparity between their two rosters, which includes a payroll difference of more than $300 million. L.A. enters the season with a MLB-leading payroll that’s approaching $400 million, compared to Chicago’s 29th-ranked $83 million total, a number the franchise has pared down during its rebuild.
“It’s certainly a challenge, but in a lot of ways there are a lot of fun aspects of it, building up and growing the various departments. And it’s critical for everyone to work well together,” said Friedman, who helped build winning teams in Tampa Bay without high payrolls. “And it doesn’t mean you don’t disagree, but putting those processes in place and being more innovative when you’re at this point, it’s similar to how we were in 2006 and 2007 with the Rays.
“There is a lot of strong foundation you can build during that time period that while mired in it is not fun. But when you look back, when you’ve reached a point of a steady state of success where a lot of that can be attributed to those early years, it can be very rewarding.”
While Getz can only dream of those days for now, he is using his unique spring training vantage point to soak up how a model organization is run. Asked what he admires about the Dodgers, he pointed to the detailed ground-up approach that often gets overlooked amid the franchise’s splashy offseason signings.
“Being a former farm director and being attached to a complex with the Dodgers and seeing what they do on a regular basis, having conversations, seeing the work that’s being done, it’s almost a small-market mindset in terms of really valuing the development of players,” Getz said. “I respect how they go about it. It’s not just spending, they do a lot of little things.”
Of course, it is going to take more than little things for the White Sox to make up the distance between them and the Dodgers — or even most of the rest of the other 28 major league teams — and that was apparent as soon as the curtain dropped on a new season of Cactus League games.
Last Thursday, 10,959 fans dressed primarily in Dodger blue showed up for L.A.’s opener. Four days later, the White Sox played their first home game of the spring in front of an announced crowd of 2,636. The fans who did make their way to Camelback Ranch for the Monday afternoon matchup with the Texas Rangers were greeted with a familiar sight to anyone who followed the 2024 season: Chicago promptly gave up nine runs in the top of the first inning.
“Obviously, you’re not going to meet a fan that wants to be where we’re at right now,” Getz said. “But if they’re sticking by our side, when we get there, it’s going to be a really special moment for a lot of people.”
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The teams, coaches and players who have the most to prove next season
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With spring football just around the corner, it’s time to look ahead toward next season and see who has the most to prove.
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Our college football experts give their thoughts on teams, coaches and players who have the most to prove.
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1. Which team has the most to prove?
Jake Trotter: The Nittany Lions have not won a national championship in almost four decades (though they did go unbeaten in 1994). But they now have one of the most experienced quarterbacks in college football in Drew Allar, while Big Ten powerhouses Ohio State and Michigan are set to debut freshman passers. Last year’s other Big Ten playoff teams, Oregon (Dillon Gabriel) and Indiana (Kurtis Rourke), graduated their star quarterbacks. Penn State also boasts the nation’s top returning running back duo (Nicholas Singleton and Kaytron Allen) and even swiped Jim Knowles from Ohio State after he coordinated the top defense in the country. The Nittany Lions will never have a better shot to win the Big Ten — and national title — than they will this season.
Bill Connelly: Yeah, it has to be Penn State. The Nittany Lions are going all-in and might have the most proven stars in the country. We still don’t know if their receiving corps is ready for prime time, but their schedule is extremely navigable outside of a Nov. 1 trip to Columbus to face Ohio State. There will never be a better time for a breakthrough than 2025.
Chris Low: When is there not something to prove at Alabama? Nick Saban won six national championships in Tuscaloosa, and there was always an embedded responsibility to continue feeding that monster the next season. Now, as Kalen DeBoer enters his second season at Alabama, the last thing anybody in and around that Crimson Tide program wants is to go a second straight season without making the College Football Playoff. DeBoer and his staff have recruited well, and he was able to bring back Ryan Grubb as offensive coordinator after Grubb spent last season in the NFL. DeBoer will have more of his fingerprints on the 2025 team, and there should be a better overall understanding among the players of how he rolls. Either way, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to realize how important this next season is for the program.
Andrea Adelson: Penn State is the most obvious choice, but I would argue Florida State has something more to prove after a disastrous 2024 campaign. It still seems unfathomable that the Seminoles could go from 13-1 and ACC champions in 2023 to 2-10 over just one season. But here’s the thing about Florida State in its recent history. The Seminoles have probably been closer to their performance in 2024 than what we saw in 2023. Over the past seven seasons, Florida State has had five losing seasons. Three of them belong to current coach Mike Norvell. So it is legitimate to ask whether the Seminoles’ back-to-back double-digit win seasons in 2022 and 2023 fall outside the norm for what history says should be expected. That is what makes this season so critical. Florida State appeared to turn a corner and had many believing it was ready to rejoin the elite. Last season said otherwise. So what will it be in 2025?
Adam Rittenberg: I love the Penn State answers, but I’m going across the Big Ten — and the country — with USC. Remember the excitement when USC went way outside the family to hire Lincoln Riley as head coach? The expectation was that championships and playoff appearances would follow. Perhaps those were unrealistic, given the program’s roster and resource challenges, as well as an unexpected move to the Big Ten in 2024. But Riley is just 26-14 with one division title and no league championships or CFP berths while at USC. The Big Ten is only getting deeper and tougher, and despite some key upgrades at personnel positions, USC ultimately must start delivering results. Can a team that struggled to win the close ones, especially away from home, start to break through this fall? We’ll learn a lot during a midseason stretch featuring Illinois (road), Michigan (home) and Notre Dame (road).
Ryan McGee: I’ll draft behind Rittenberg in the Pac-12-to-B1G genre, but I’m going up the coast to Oregon. The world, including me, has declared Dan Lanning as the future of college football, and looking at the W column and his recruiting prowess, we are right in doing so. But in two straight seasons, Oregon has exited the natty chase via bummer rematch losses, last year as the top-ranked team. So, new coach, but that’s the same Oregon close-but-no-title movie we’ve been watching for a few decades now.
Kyle Bonagura: After finishing in last place in the Pac-12 in 2023, Colorado took a massive step forward last season. It was a tiebreak away from reaching the Big 12 title game and went 9-4. Now comes the hard part. Travis Hunter, the Heisman Trophy winner, and Shedeur Sanders, the possible No. 1 NFL draft pick, buoyed the team at a level that is hard to quantify. Without those two this year, we’ll have a better sense of what life in Boulder will be like for Deion Sanders.
2. Which coach has the most to prove?
Bonagura: Cal coach Justin Wilcox hasn’t been messing around this offseason. He hired former Boise State and Auburn coach Bryan Harsin to be the OC; former Washington State and Hawai’i head coach Nick Rolovich as an analyst; and former NFL head coach Ron Rivera joined the program in an administrative role. Wilcox has been given a lot of chances to succeed. He’s about to start his ninth season in Berkeley and has yet to have a winning record in conference play. The last time Cal had a winning overall record was in 2019 (8-5).
Trotter: After losing to Notre Dame on a last-second field goal in last season’s playoff semifinal, James Franklin fell to 1-14 vs. AP top-five teams — and 4-20 vs. AP top-10 opponents — as Penn State’s head coach. It’s past time for Franklin to win the big game. To his credit, he has compiled a loaded team that should be able to go toe-to-toe with anyone in college football in 2025. That won’t amount to much if Franklin continues losing against the best.
Connelly: Oklahoma has suffered just two losing seasons in the past 26 years, and Brent Venables was in charge for both of them. The Sooners faced a ridiculous schedule during last season’s 6-7 campaign, and they enjoyed a bright spot with their late-November pummeling of Alabama. But that was their only win over an FBS opponent after September, and they fielded their worst offense of the 21st century. Venables has recruited well enough to fend off any major hot seat issues, but you eventually have to turn recruiting potential into on-field production, and OU’s schedule won’t get any easier in his fourth season in charge.
Low: Gotta be Lincoln Riley, right? He enters his fourth season at USC and has yet to win a conference championship. He had quarterback Caleb Williams for two seasons, and after Williams won the Heisman Trophy in 2022, the Trojans dropped off to 8-5 in 2023. Then in their first season in the Big Ten a year ago, the Trojans finished with a losing record (4-5) in league play. Riley didn’t just all of a sudden forget how to coach. He won four Big 12 championships at Oklahoma and won 11 games in his first season at USC. But the rub is that the trajectory has trended the wrong way at USC since he arrived, and there’s also the matter of the Trojans proving they can consistently be a contender in the Big Ten. The Trojans will be breaking in a new quarterback in 2025, but this should also be USC’s best defense under Riley with D’Anton Lynn returning for his second season as coordinator.
McGee: Bill Belichick needs to figure out how college football works, but Brian Kelly needs to figure out how Week 1 works.
Rittenberg: Brian Kelly for me. He left Notre Dame for LSU with the express purpose of winning national titles. But the Tigers haven’t even made the CFP under his watch, while Notre Dame just recorded its first three CFP victories under Kelly’s successor, Marcus Freeman, taking down SEC champion Georgia en route to the national title game. Each of the past three LSU coaches — Ed Orgeron, Les Miles and Nick Saban — won a national title by the end of their fourth season at the school. LSU had some obvious talent deficiencies during Kelly’s first few seasons, but the Tigers have rectified that through the portal and improved recruiting. Anything short of a CFP appearance this fall will create major doubt around Kelly, a Hall of Fame-caliber coach who hasn’t fully delivered yet in the Bayou.
Hale: The two biggest hires of the 2022 coaching carousel were Lincoln Riley and Brian Kelly. As Chris Low notes, the pressure on Riley to turn things around at USC is immense, but things aren’t exactly easy for Kelly at LSU either. In three seasons in Baton Rouge, Kelly has been … fine. He has won 29 games, which is tied for the 15th most over that span, right alongside fellow SEC coach Lane Kiffin, who’s viewed as far more successful. But the problem is, LSU didn’t hire Kelly to lead a top-15 team. It hired him to win a national championship, and he has not come close. LSU has lost its opener in each of Kelly’s three seasons, letting the air out of the balloon before it ever got off the ground. LSU has been ranked eighth or better in each of Kelly’s three seasons, too — but hasn’t finished inside the top 12. And last year, it was Kelly’s former team, Notre Dame — a program he suggested couldn’t win it all in the modern era — that made it to the College Football Playoff final. Kelly might not be on the hot seat exactly, but the clock is absolutely ticking.
Adelson: Is it strange to say Bill Belichick? This has nothing to do with whether he can coach X’s and O’s. We all know that he can. This has everything to do with whether he can win in college doing it his way. I would argue there is no coach with a greater spotlight on him than Belichick because we are all completely fascinated to see how this is going to play out. Does Super Bowl success automatically translate into college victories at a place that has traditionally underperformed based on its talent? North Carolina has not won an ACC title since 1980 — not even College Football Hall of Famer Mack Brown could bring home that elusive title. Belichick says he wants UNC to be run just like an NFL team. Is that feasible in college? The entire roster has been overhauled and there is no clear-cut quarterback at this point. What about his long-term future? Only a few months into the job and there was already speculation he wanted back in the NFL. No matter what happens this season, Belichick will have proved either that his way works or that it might not be the answer in college. Either way, people will tune in to watch.
3. Which quarterback has the most to prove?
Hale: This time last season, Carson Beck was the clear-cut No. 1 quarterback in the country and a likely first-round draft pick. Then he had a mediocre campaign in which he got hurt late in Georgia’s SEC title game matchup against Texas and missed the playoff, and suddenly a lot of the shine is off the once-touted prospect. After a brief flirtation with the draft, Beck opted to return to college for one more year — and a boatload of money — at Miami, a move that caught the Dawgs by surprise. Now he’ll follow in Cam Ward‘s footsteps, and that’s no simple task, either. Beck has shown what he can do when things are clicking, and the truth is, he didn’t have a full assortment of playmakers around him last year at UGA. But expectations are high at Miami, and Beck needs to get back to his 2023 form if he wants to rekindle that first-round draft pick hype.
Trotter: Texas quarterback Arch Manning has become one of the most hyped players in recent college football history. And yet, he has played only sparingly backing up Quinn Ewers the past two years. Ewers is now gone, and all eyes will be on Manning as he attempts to lead Texas to its first national championship since 2005, when Vince Young propelled the Longhorns to an undefeated season. Behind Young’s game-winning touchdown pass, that Texas team knocked off Ohio State in Columbus early in the year, setting the stage for the Horns’ magical run. Manning will lead Texas back to the Horseshoe in the season opener with a prime opportunity to make his own statement.
Rittenberg: I saw the tears from Penn State’s Drew Allar after the loss to Notre Dame in the CFP semifinal. Quarterbacks and coaches are often linked through the attention (good and bad) they receive, and Allar and James Franklin will feel the burden of not having won the big game until things change on the field. Penn State having arguably its best team under Franklin increases the pressure on Allar, who, with a strong season, could be the top quarterback drafted to the NFL in 2026. I’m also fascinated to see how Oregon’s Dante Moore plays in taking over for Dillon Gabriel, who helped the Ducks win the Big Ten and go 13-0 but struggled against Ohio State in the Rose Bowl. Who will be the quarterback to finally lead Oregon to a national title? Perhaps Moore is that man.
Adelson: I am looking forward to seeing how Miller Moss does at Louisville. The former ESPN 300 quarterback waited his turn at USC, got his opportunity to start a year ago, and it did not quite go the way both he and the Trojans had planned as he was ultimately benched. But Louisville coach Jeff Brohm has a long track record of success with his quarterbacks — especially with his transfers in his first two seasons with the Cards. In Year 1, transfer Jack Plummer led Louisville to the ACC title game. Then last season, Tyler Shough had a career year, throwing for more than 3,000 yards with 23 touchdowns to six interceptions. Moss said Brohm was a huge reason he decided to join the Cards. With ACC Rookie of the Year Isaac Brown returning to the backfield, top receivers Chris Bell and Caullin Lacy back and an improved offensive line, there is reason to believe Moss can take Louisville back to the ACC championship game.
McGee: Arch Manning has been hyped since he was in middle school. He’s the only backup quarterback I’ve ever seen attract more reporters than the starter at a CFP media day, and I’ve seen it happen multiple times. Texas fans just told the quarterback who took them to two consecutive CFPs that he should just go on and leave. Oh, and when Arch was in high school, I was at an Ole Miss game when it painted the end zones with “MANNING,” supposedly because Uncle Eli was being honored, but everyone knew it was to try to catch the eye of Arch should he be in town for the festivities. If he does anything less than win the SEC title and make the CFP, Austin will turn on him like he’s overcooked brisket.
Connelly: Drew Allar finished the 2024 season with 3,327 passing yards and a 24-to-8 TD-to-INT ratio, and while he had a wonderful security blanket in tight end Tyler Warren, he also produced those numbers with a weak set of wide receivers. It was a lovely step forward for the former blue-chipper, but the campaign ended with a dud: In a semifinal loss to Notre Dame, he went just 12-for-23 passing for 135 yards and a devastating and ill-advised interception in the final minute. He proved his upside to a certain degree, but he was also a merely solid 17th in Total QBR. If he genuinely transitions into a top-tier quarterback in 2025, Penn State will be ridiculously hard to beat.
Low: It should be a fascinating season in the world of SEC quarterbacks with several promising players returning, others getting their first shot as a starter and some talented new faces. Tennessee‘s Nico Iamaleava has elite arm talent and showed some real toughness last season. Now, in his third season on campus and pulling in a reported $8 million in NIL money, it’s time for him to go from being solid to being a difference-maker in a Tennessee offense that desperately needs more pop in its downfield passing game. Iamaleava is 11-3 as a starter going back to the bowl game at the end of his freshman season and has protected the football well, but he passed for more than 200 yards only twice in his nine games last season against SEC foes and then Ohio State in the playoff. The Vols will need more from him next season if they’re going to make a return trip to the playoff.
4. Which transfer has the most to prove?
Low: In one season as Tulane’s starting quarterback, Darian Mensah put up impressive numbers (2,723 yards and 22 touchdowns) and, as a result, received a massive payday of a reported $8 million over two years to transfer to Duke. Even by today’s NIL standards, that’s some serious cash. Clearly, Duke thinks he’s worth it, and Mensah’s best football would seem to be ahead of him. The spotlight will be exceedingly bright as he does his part to take Duke from a nine-win team to potentially a playoff team.
Connelly: I thought Patrick Payton was going to be a breakout star for Florida State in 2024. Some of his rate stats were better than his former teammate Jared Verse‘s in 2023, and I thought both Payton and the Seminoles’ defensive front could withstand the loss of Verse and others and still thrive. I was incorrect. Payton’s sack total fell from seven to four, his TFLs from 12.5 to 11 and his pressure rate from 12.4% to 10.1%. Now he’s heading to LSU for a rebound year, and if he still has a breakthrough in him, he could transform both his own draft stock and LSU’s CFP prospects.
Trotter: Carson Beck entered the 2024 season as a favorite to become the No. 1 pick in the 2025 draft. Beck, however, battled through an up-and-down season at Georgia before suffering an ulnar collateral ligament injury in his throwing elbow that knocked him out of the playoff and prompted him to return to college. Beck has since transferred to Miami, where he’s succeeding Heisman Trophy finalist Cam Ward, who could become the top draft pick instead. The pressure is on Beck to live up to his talent for the Hurricanes and show NFL scouts he’s worthy of first-round consideration.
Rittenberg: The excitement around John Mateer is real, and so is the pressure on him. He could be the quarterback to reboot Oklahoma‘s offense, get the Sooners competitive in the SEC and CFP races and possibly secure coach Brent Venables’ future. Mateer dazzled for Washington State in his lone season as the primary starter, passing for 3,139 yards and 29 touchdowns, while adding 15 rushing touchdowns and 826 yards. He will once again play under coordinator Ben Arbuckle, who also made the move to OU, but faces much tougher competition in the SEC. Oklahoma hit big with quarterback transfers such as Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray and Jalen Hurts under coach Lincoln Riley. Venables needs a similar impact from Mateer this fall.
Bonagura: Devon Dampier‘s transfer from New Mexico to Utah might not have generated the most headlines this offseason, but it could end up being one of the most consequential. Utah’s offense was a disaster the past two seasons as Cam Rising couldn’t shake the injury issues. Dampier showed he can produce in the Mountain West, and a lot will be riding on him as questions about how long coach Kyle Whittingham will postpone retirement continue to linger.
5. Which freshman has the most to prove?
Low: Dakorien Moore is one of the highest-ranked recruits ever to sign with Oregon and plays a position, wide receiver, that could use an influx of talent. It was big for the Ducks that Evan Stewart decided to return for another season, but they’re losing Tez Johnson to the NFL. Moore (5-11, 182 pounds) plays bigger than his size and has elite speed. He’s dynamic after the catch and scored 18 touchdowns his senior year of high school in Duncanville, Texas. Moore, ESPN’s No. 1-ranked receiver prospect nationally, could have gone anywhere in the country. The Ducks would love it if he can make a similar impact as Ohio State’s Jeremiah Smith and Alabama’s Ryan Williams did a year ago as freshmen.
Trotter: Quarterback Bryce Underwood, the No. 1 overall recruit in the country, was given millions to switch his commitment from LSU and sign with Michigan, just a 20-minute drive from his hometown. With all of that come immense expectations. The Wolverines brought in veteran Mikey Keene from Fresno State to serve as a bridge quarterback. But ultimately, the onus is going to fall on Underwood to prove he’s worth the hype and money.
Adelson: Keep an eye on Clemson running back Gideon Davidson, an early enrollee with a big opportunity to not only play as a true freshman but potentially earn a starting spot. This is the biggest area on the Clemson offense without a proven returning player. Phil Mafah is gone to the NFL, while backup Jay Haynes will miss spring rehabbing from a knee injury sustained in the ACC championship game. Clemson is going to have receiver Adam Randall play running back this spring, after he played there in the CFP quarterfinal against Texas, to see if he should permanently move to the position. That leaves Keith Adams Jr. as the only running back on the roster with significant carries — 30 last year — available for the spring. So, Davidson will no doubt be in the mix at a position that has produced 1,000-yard backs at a frequent clip.
Rittenberg: Julian “Ju Ju” Lewis’ drawn-out recruitment process brought added attention to the quarterback, who continued to visit schools despite his commitment to USC, and eventually flipped and signed with Colorado. Coach Prime and the Buffs need a new on-field face of the program following the NFL departures of Shedeur Sanders and Travis Hunter. Lewis, ESPN’s No. 12 recruit in the class, could be the front man for Phase 2 of the Deion Sanders experience in Boulder. He must beat out a more experienced quarterback in Liberty transfer Kaidon Salter, but at some point, Lewis should get an opportunity to run an offense that last season ranked No. 6 nationally in passing.
Connelly: Underwood’s the most obvious answer, but he might not be the only true freshman with a chance to shine for a highly ranked team. Alabama would probably benefit significantly if Keelon Russell, the No. 2 overall recruit in the country, pulled a Jalen Hurts and seized control of the starting job in Tuscaloosa. He’ll have to beat out two-year backup Ty Simpson and Washington transplant Austin Mack, both of whom are former blue-chippers themselves. But it’s fair to guess that Russell has the highest upside of the bunch, and Bama’s ceiling rises if Russell’s ready from day one.
6. Which non-quarterback player has the most to prove?
Trotter: After a pedestrian regular season, Notre Dame wide receiver Jaden Greathouse exploded in the playoff. In the semifinal and national championship, Greathouse totaled 13 receptions for 233 yards and three touchdowns. In the title game loss to Ohio State, he ignited a second-half comeback that came up short with a series of electric plays. Can Greathouse build on those postseason performances and prove he’s one of the top wideouts in the country? If so, the Fighting Irish also have the players elsewhere for another deep playoff run.
Connelly: Kyron Hudson was a top-10 receiver prospect in the 2021 class but produced just 807 receiving yards in parts of four seasons at USC. That makes him a little bit disappointing … but it also makes him nearly the most proven member of the Penn State receiving corps. He and Troy transfer Devonte Ross will need to make immediate impacts for Drew Allar and PSU to meet their 2025 hype. They don’t have to be Jeremiah Smith-level good, but they have to produce.
Low: Francis Mauigoa has already proved that he’s one of the most promising offensive linemen in the country as he enters his junior season at Miami, but he has everything it takes to blossom into the best tackle in the country in 2025. The 6-foot-6, 320-pound Mauigoa was a second-team All-ACC selection last season. He came to Miami as a five-star prospect and ranked No. 1 nationally at his position. The Hurricanes are hoping to see him showcase that kind of dominance every time out next season.
Hale: Peter Woods is a force up front, but he wasn’t at his best for much of 2024. He battled an early injury, and he was playing out of position at edge rather than on the interior of Clemson’s D-line. Moreover, the entire Clemson front struggled — which led directly to the decision to part ways with coordinator Wes Goodwin. Now, Tom Allen arrives with the express purpose of rejuvenating the Tigers’ pass rush, and he’ll have some fun players to incorporate — including a healthy Woods. With more depth surrounding him and a scheme that should play to his strengths, Woods has the tools to turn his five-star pedigree into All-America production. If he does, it could mean Clemson’s defense looks more like it did during its playoff heyday from 2015 to 2020. If he doesn’t, Woods risks becoming one of the more disappointing prospects on the Tigers’ defense in years.
Adelson: LSU linebacker Harold Perkins Jr. saw his past season cut short by an ACL injury in Week 4, yet another setback for a player who is looking to return to the potential and production that saw him be named to multiple Freshman All-America teams in 2022. There is little doubt Perkins has the physical gifts to prove to the nation once again why he made such a celebrated debut. But much of what has happened since then has been out of his control — a move from edge rusher to inside linebacker in 2023 limited his game-changing ability, and the injury last season obviously hurt. Defensive coordinator Blake Baker recently said he plans to have Perkins play the hybrid safety/linebacker position this season. LSU will need Perkins to be the best version of himself, particularly after the team’s defensive struggles at times last season. That leaves him with plenty to prove.
Rittenberg: Zachariah Branch was among the buzziest players entering the 2024 season, as he had become USC’s first-ever true freshman All-American, returning a punt and a kickoff for a touchdown while leading the nation in punt return average. But his encore fell a bit flat, as he averaged 10.7 yards per reception with only one touchdown, and didn’t have a punt return longer than 20 yards. Branch transferred to Georgia along with his brother, Zion, a safety. Georgia needs more playmakers at wide receiver and returns, where Zachariah should slide right in. A big season awaits the former top-10 national recruit in Athens.
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Brayden Schenn joins brother with 1,000th game
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WASHINGTON — Brayden Schenn played his 1,000th regular-season NHL game when he and the St. Louis Blues beat the Washington Capitals 5-2 on Thursday night.
Older brother Luke played his 1,000th game Oct. 17 with the Nashville Predators. The Schenns are the eighth set of brothers to each reach that milestone and the first to do so in the same season.
“I’ve always said you don’t get there without the help of tons of people,” Brayden said after his team’s morning skate. “Family being one and coaches and players and teammates and people in the organization. Obviously, you have to embrace the day-to-day grind of the ups and downs and just how hard this league is, but, yeah, pretty special that we have best buddies that push each other every day and get to do it in the same year.”
Blues players celebrated the occasion with Schenn shirts and hats with the captain’s No. 10 on them. Father Jeff gave a pregame speech in the locker room after coach Jim Montgomery said, “Schenner and his bro both getting 1,000 games in the same season is a tribute to the great family raised by Jeff and his wife.”
Jeff Schenn said Brayden was his favorite player on the Blues and tied for his favorite overall, of course, with Luke.
“Honored and privileged and very proud to be part of the big day and the big journey that goes along with it,” their dad said. “You see the hard work and the dedication and the bumps and the bruises and everything you guys put into it. … Just so excited and happy to be here and awful proud of him.”
Montgomery said after the win that Jeff Schenn looked very comfortable speaking in front of the group.
“Jeff and his wife, Brayden’s parents, they raised four great kids and two have played 1,000 games in the NHL,” Montgomery said. “His message was well-received, and you could tell by our start that we wanted to play for our captain.”
Dylan Holloway, who scored twice, said because it was Schenn’s 1,000th game, the Blues “wanted this one bad.”
The Capitals acknowledged the milestone with a message on arena videoboards and an announcement during the first period.
Brayden getting to 1,000 comes amid talk ahead of the March 7 trade deadline that teams are interested in acquiring both of them in separate moves. The Blues are on the fringe of the playoff race in the Western Conference, while the Predators are far out of contention.
“The times I’ve gotten traded, I didn’t expect to get traded, so you really never know,” Brayden said, adding he has loved his time with St. Louis. “It’s a business and that just comes with the flows of kind of where we’re positioned, five points out of the playoffs. But it’s the trade deadline, so some people make rumors. … You just take it a day at a time and just focus on your game and play.”
Brayden, 33, has three years left on his contract at an annual salary cap hit of $6.5 million. Luke, 35, has one more season left after this one at $2.75 million.
The Schenn brothers have played together in the NHL before, spending 3½ seasons with the Philadelphia Flyers from 2013 to 2015. Brayden won the Stanley Cup with the Blues in 2019, then Luke back to back with the Tampa Bay Lightning in 2020 and 2021.
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