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ON FRIDAY, DR. Arthur C. Bartner, the 85-year-old retired band director at USC, stood at the 50-yard line of the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum before the Trojans’ game against Northwestern, looking for an old friend.

Suddenly, Mick Fleetwood, the legendary drummer from Fleetwood Mac, showed up. He saw Bartner, and his face lit up. The 79-year-old drummer embraced his old friend in a huge hug.

“The look on his face was priceless,” Bartner said. “I mean, there was a genuine appreciation and love for our relationship through the years.”

In 1979, the two men joined forces to make American music history, when Fleetwood convinced Bartner to lend him the Trojan Marching Band for the recording of “Tusk,” the title track of a Fleetwood Mac album at the height of the band’s powers. It would go on to earn both bands two platinum albums and create an iconic marching band song.

Michael Barasch, the founder of College Marching, which covers bands across the country, said nobody else has what USC has in “Tusk.” He cited the popularity of “Dixieland Delight” at Alabama, “Country Roads” at West Virginia and “Rocky Top” at Tennessee as comparable examples. But there’s one big difference. “None of those bands can say they recorded the original track with the artist,” Barasch said.

That’s why Bartner became something of a star and his group became known as “Hollywood’s Band.” On Friday, he felt the need to remind Fleetwood of what the collaboration did for him.

“You made my career,” Bartner said he told Fleetwood. “You made me famous, Mick.”

Soon after, Fleetwood joined the Trojan Marching Band to play their creation together once again. For Bartner, it was a “joyous occasion.” Not only did he get to surprise Fleetwood, but he got to see Fleetwood play “Tusk” in person once again, 46 years after the first performance.

“At 85 years old, how lucky, how blessed am I to have an evening like this?” Bartner said. “There’s not many people that can live such a moment in your life and get to do it twice.”

FLEETWOOD MAC GOT whatever it wanted in 1979.

“Rumours,” released in 1977, was one of the biggest albums in history, leading to packed stadium shows around the world and putting the group on par with Led Zeppelin and The Eagles. Led by classics such as “Dreams,” “Go Your Own Way” and “Don’t Stop,” the record spent 31 weeks at No. 1 and has sold more than 40 million records.

Afterward, the band set out on an adventure in record making, exploring new sonic techniques and hoping to rebel against their record label. They were given a massive budget of $1 million, making the album, at that point, the most expensive of all time. L.A.’s legendary Village Recorders studio built the band a new studio for them to record it in, including a custom booth at Stevie Nicks’ request that was decorated to evoke a sunset in Tahiti.

But Fleetwood couldn’t stop thinking even bigger. He visited his mother and sister in Normandy, France, and while there, he couldn’t sleep. He was jet-lagged and had a few drinks. And to make matters worse, a brass band kept marching by, parade-style, outside the townhome where he was staying in Barfleur, a little fishing village. By 2 a.m., he gave up, sat on the balcony and watched the group go by. And it struck him. Wherever this little band went, even in the middle of the night, people followed.

He couldn’t stop thinking about a guitar riff that bandmate Lindsey Buckingham had been toying with that had become known as the “Stage Riff,” that he played all the time, yet they’d seemingly given up on figuring out how to make it a complete composition. Fleetwood thought, on that balcony, that he’d figured it out.

“Everyone in the band, including Lindsey, thought I was round the twist,” he told ESPN, using a British phrase for, well, being nuts. “But I said, let’s have a brass band develop that riff.”

He returned to Los Angeles, 5,600 miles from his source of inspiration, and set his plan in motion. He placed a call to the USC band’s offices, wanting to talk to someone from the Trojan Marching Band. It’s Mick Fleetwood, he said. They said they’d have to call him back.

USC’s band was no stranger to being in the middle of showbiz. They turned up frequently in movies and TV shows. But, still, the directors weren’t used to one of the biggest names in music cold-calling them. There were always concerns it could be a prank call from some kid. Worse, it could be someone from UCLA.

Tony Fox, the assistant director, called back. He was stunned to find it genuinely was Fleetwood on the other end.

“They were the ones who contacted us and wanted to collaborate,” Fox said. “It’s the only time that’s ever happened between a college band and a major rock group.”

So Bartner, the longtime band director, and Fox, his trusted assistant and the arranger for the band, headed to Studio D at Village Recorders. There, the two college band directors worked with Buckingham and Fleetwood, two rock music giants, to arrange the score. Then they went back to USC and fine-tuned it. They got another call from Fleetwood.

He was even further round the twist. He told them they were going to record the track live at Dodger Stadium.

“That for sure nearly ended with me being taken to a mental institution by my fellow band members,” Fleetwood said. “They said it would cost a fortune. I said, ‘I’ll pay for it.'”

But the band had a very famous fan in Dodger third baseman Ron Cey, a perennial All-Star who would become the 1981 World Series MVP. He had hung out with the band during the recording process before. And he had enough clout to call in a favor.

“He said, ‘I’ll get ’em to donate the place and open it up for you. I love this idea,'” Fleetwood said.

So on June 4, 1979, they showed up, 112 members of the Spirit of Troy, in full uniform, to record a song with Fleetwood Mac at Dodger Stadium. “Tusk” was born, and it became an iconic part of both bands’ careers — the tribal, hypnotic toms of Fleetwood, mixed with Buckingham’s riffs and screeching vocals, and a huge band behind it. Fleetwood’s vision came to life.

In December of that year, when Fleetwood Mac returned on tour for the album, the band played five shows at the Forum, home of the Showtime-era Lakers, and the Trojan band joined for each of them.

In everyone’s memories, it’s one of the most Los Angeles series of events. And it has become an iconic part of USC’s history.

“Everywhere we go,” Fox said, “people ask us, ‘Play “Tusk,” play “Tusk,” play “Tusk.”‘”


MARCHING BANDS HAVE long adopted popular music into stadium anthems. The White Stripes’ “Seven Nation Army” has become a staple worldwide. “Neck,” started as a 1984 song by Cameo called “Talkin’ Out The Side of Your Neck,” was arranged to become an HBCU band favorite, then soared into infamy at LSU where fans inserted lyrics so explicit that the school banned the song entirely.

But, according to Bartner and Fox, there was nothing like this that had ever come before, where a band’s own directors helped create a song, then recorded the original with the band, a true collaboration.

It was no small undertaking. The band filmed a video of the surreal scene, one of the first behind-the-scenes videos ever released of a rock band’s process. Engineers ran wires across the warning track to remote trucks. Bartner stood on a ladder in the middle of the field, surveying his charges, as Rodney Davis, his drum major, held up the music in front of him to conduct.

A larger-than-life character himself, Davis was a local student from nearby Carson, California, had already been the first Black student to live on USC’s fraternity row, had been the first Black fraternity president, and now was the first Black drum major to lead the band. He served for an unprecedented three years. He hustled around making last-second changes to parts and to make sure everyone was ready to go. Davis became a star of sorts once the video, full of close-up shots of him high-stepping into Dodger Stadium, debuted on MTV in 1981.

Rehearsals were done live in the stadium: students practiced in dugouts and uniforms laid strewn in the outfield awaiting the final performance. There were on-site adjustments, not the least of which came from Fleetwood’s manic drum solo in the middle of the song, which he never seemed to play the same way twice.

“Anything I’ve ever done and still do, I haven’t got a clue what I’m doing,” Fleetwood joked. “I don’t even know what a verse or a chorus is, but I know in the moment I’m always on the edge of f—ing everything up.”

For a band with hundreds of members that couldn’t adapt on the fly, that posed a problem. The directors had to beg their new friend to try and stick to a plan.

“I remember going down on the field and I actually hadn’t been playing in quite a while and I forgot how exhausting that middle bit was,” Fleetwood said. “It’s actually freeform. Everything they did was performance learned. And that really pays tribute to the band and their discipline, knowing that it sounded like it was just made up.”

Students could freely chat up any of the members during rehearsals. Buckingham, Nicks, Fleetwood and Christine McVie were all in attendance. John McVie, however, was sailing to Tahiti. So Fleetwood called Warner Bros. and asked if they had a full-size image of him, and they delivered, so a life-size posterboard of John was carried around all day.

Nicks, famously, was captured on video adeptly twirling a baton like a college majorette. Fleetwood said that was no act, and that she had grown up as a twirler.

“Stevie, she was the real deal,” Fleetwood said. “The whole spinning thing, it’s something I never learned to do with drumsticks. So I was unearthly jealous of her, like Tommy Lee or something. That was an impromptu idea, which of course was fantastic. She took the boys into battle stomping out with high-heeled boots on. She was the official twirler of the day.”

Nicks walked around watching rehearsals, and in outtakes of the video shoot, asked, “Who are we to deserve the USC band?”

After lunch on the field, the band suited up and recorded the final version. Fleetwood had headphones on with his hands over them, staring at the ground. With such a large ensemble playing in such a cavernous setting, keeping time was a monumental task, and Fleetwood was pounding the ground with his foot.

“I actually remember doing that,” he said. “I had the track in the cans. I was sort of a desperate Dan. That stomping on the ground was for a very real reason, especially being a drummer. This thing’s got to be in time.”

The finished product became the first single off the highly anticipated album. Fleetwood wanted it to have an unusual sound and to signal that he wasn’t putting out a sequel to “Rumours.”

“Tusk” was released just three months after the Dodger Stadium session, with plenty of studio sounds added to it, including Fleetwood slapping a leg of lamb with a spatula. The song was Fleetwood Mac’s biggest hit in England since 1973, and the combined group became the largest ensemble ever to chart in the U.K., but could not surpass the Mormon Tabernacle Choir’s 320-member recording of “The Battle Hymn of the Republic” in the United States.

In October of 1979, the band performed at the dedication for Fleetwood Mac’s star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. After the single sold more than a million copies, the album went platinum. At halftime of the 1980 homecoming game against Arizona State, members of Fleetwood Mac presented Bartner with a platinum album, the first college marching band to get such an honor. In 1997, Fleetwood Mac recorded a live reunion concert known as “The Dance” over two days at Warner Bros. Studios in Los Angeles. The Trojan Marching Band again performed with them, first on an updated version of “Tusk,” before closing the show with “Don’t Stop.” The band earned its second platinum album after it sold more than five million copies in the U.S.

Fleetwood calls Bartner a “total, total legend” and is proud of how close they became. In the following years, they’d go to USC games together. He takes immense pride in the collaboration.

“I think it’s a major bookend,” he said. “It’s full of drums. I didn’t get a songwriting credit, but it’s about as close as you can get, to have 80 other drummers playing with you just to say, don’t forget the drummer.”


BARTNER AND FOX are both retired from USC now. Fox left in 2016 after 45 years and Bartner in 2020 after 50. Bartner served as the director of the 800-member All-American College Marching Band for the 1984 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.

Under their direction, the Trojan Band performed in movies such as “The Naked Gun” and “Forrest Gump,” at the Oscars three times, including once with Beyonce and Hugh Jackman and with Outkast at the Grammys. In 2009, they again performed at the Grammys with Radiohead, and found themselves rehearsing with the band at the same studio where Fleetwood Mac was rehearsing, with Buckingham calling it a “passing of the torch.”

Barasch, who documents bands on the @collegemarching Instagram account, grew up in Pennsylvania and marched at Penn State, but said he was always fascinated by the USC band, with their Trojan helmets and sunglasses showing up all over the place.

“No other program comes close to what USC has done not just on the field, but off as well in terms of exposure,” he said. “Embracing Los Angeles and saying they were open for business catapulted them from a great college band to essentially the face of collegiate marching band nationwide for many years.”

“It’s not really a rock tune, and it’s kind of hard to say what it is,” Fox said. “It’s so unique because of that drum beat. And it’s so unique because it’s our tune. I mean, they gave it to us to use in perpetuity. The collaboration is the big point. The big picture is that we were able to give those kids that participated in this thing something no other band in the country could have given them.”

Bartner said his greatest contribution to USC football is that the band essentially choreographs the game. “Fight On!” is usually played after first downs or touchdowns. “Conquest” is played after scores and victories. “Tribute to Troy” is played after defensive stops.

But “Tusk” has earned a prominent place along with all the stalwarts. It’s part of the pregame show, is almost always played in postgame, and is a favorite at any special campus events. In 2010, to celebrate Bartner’s 40th anniversary as band director, an alumni band joined the Trojan Marching Band to play “their crowning achievement,” as the band announcer called it, with 800 members performing at halftime of homecoming.

In 2015, Buckingham appeared as a guest in a Business, Administration, Entrepreneurship Program class in a packed auditorium at USC to discuss his career, play a few songs, and tell stories. He called the entire “Tusk” project a backlash against superstardom, which explained why they took such an avant-pop approach to creating it.

“It set me on the path to be an artist, and not just a craftsman doing music,” he said.

Last year, in an interview with Buckingham looking back at the artistic impact of the album, The Independent explained what made it so shocking, saying it’s arguably the most punk album. Completely nonconformist and full of experimentation. “Tusk” was described as an “experimental, often ramshackle double record full of junkyard clatter, Kleenex box drums and a full-on marching band,” and called that title track “a seemingly insane choice for the album’s first single … chosen as a showpiece for [its] uncontained, expectation-defying spirit.”

In the class, Buckingham called it his favorite album, and ended his lecture/show with the stage curtain opening behind him, and the Trojan Marching Band, led by Bartner, launching into “Tusk” and “Go Your Own Way” as Buckingham accompanied on guitar.

Fox said it’s a testament to Bartner’s style that all of this magic combined to create one of the most iconic songs played by a college marching band, and the beginning of a rich new tradition at USC.

“Art is a showman,” Fox said, noting that Bartner led a college band program at Disneyland from 1974-2005. “That showmanship gets into the band. These kids just love entertaining and dancing around and just having fun. And it’s infectious and it’s very unique. And in some ways, I think it just manifested itself. We just said, ‘Yeah, that’s it.’ A synchronism.” Both Bartner and Fox said they recall a modest flat fee for the involvement of the band, something like $10,000. For them, it was more about the chance for their students to make history and be a part of something unforgettable.

Bartner, whose first job was directing a band of 80 students at a small high school in Michigan, was overcome with emotion with the chance to reminisce with Fleetwood. They talked about Buckingham, about the band, about life and their careers.

“From North Adams, Michigan to Los Angeles, California, and Fleetwood Mac, if you were planning your career, who would’ve ever thought that this would ever happen?” Bartner said. “I just feel very fortunate to have had a band willing to do these kind of things. These kids were full-time students. I think 90%, 80% are non-music majors. And here they’re doing all these gigs in Los Angeles. I’m very thankful.”

Fleetwood, who spends most of his time in Maui, says it’s a “long swim” back to Los Angeles, so he doesn’t get back as much as he used to. But he was thrilled to once again return in front of the Trojan Marching Band and hear their creation in person again after nearly half a century.

Fox said it forever will remain one of the most unique parts of USC lore.

“It’s Mick’s baby,” Fox said. “He gave birth to it, and we helped. But Mick is an honorary member of the band. He is part of our history.”

As proud as he is of his own role in the creation of “Tusk,” Fleetwood is even prouder it that had such a legendary second act back in the marching band setting where his idea first arose. At USC, students have added their own chorus, chanting “U-C-L-A SUCKS.” Alabama’s Million Dollar Band has also adopted it as somewhat of an unofficial fight song. It’s become an American institution.

Fleetwood remains a fan of his adopted college. He used to hit Bartner up for tickets and come to games when he was in L.A. This time, while invited to be a guest of the music school, it was Fleetwood’s own request to play with the Trojan Marching Band, something Bartner found particularly endearing, that it still means so much to him.

Fleetwood said he keeps up with the Trojans on television. And then, every so often, he’ll hear that rhythmic beat, the one inspired by the marching band in Barfleur, played as a fight song in a college football stadium, and it always hits him.

“Oh my God,” he said. “They’re still playing it.”

And Bartner realized recently just how long of a lifespan it’s had too. He went to his granddaughter’s wedding in Washington D.C. earlier this month, and an 84-year-old man, the groom’s grandfather whom he’d never met, came up to him and told him that he’s a huge Fleetwood Mac fan.

“He says, ‘Do you know that I play ‘Tusk’ every time I wash the dishes?'” Bartner said. “Some man in Oshkosh, Wisconsin, washes dishes to ‘Tusk.’ This is its far-reaching value. That’s the ultimate compliment.”

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Baylor athletic director and College Football Playoff chairman Mack Rhoades is stepping away from both roles for personal reasons.

CFP executive director Rich Clark told ESPN on Thursday that Rhoades “will step down from his role with the committee at this time for personal reasons.” The CFP likely will try to replace Rhoades and will work on naming a new chair.

Rhoades told ESPN that he initiated the leave from his Baylor role but declined to explain why.

Baylor told ESPN’s Adam Rittenberg that the university received allegations involving Rhoades on Monday. The allegations do not involve Title IX, student welfare or NCAA rules and do not involve the football program, indicating it is a separate incident from Rhoades’ alleged altercation with a football player during a September game.

The CFP typically requires athletic directors on the selection committee to be active, “sitting” athletic directors. The 12-person group was already one member short this season after committee member Randall McDaniel also stepped away last month for personal reasons.

Arkansas athletic director Hunter Yurachek has been nominated as the new CFP committee chair, while Utah athletic director Mark Harlan has been nominated to replace Rhoades on the committee, a source told ESPN. The CFP management committee, which is made up of the 10 FBS commissioners and Notre Dame athletic director Pete Bevacqua, has to approve both moves.

Baylor had previously confirmed multiple reports of an internal investigation into an alleged confrontation Rhoades had with tight end Michael Trigg about the color of the shirt he was wearing during the Bears‘ Sept. 20 game against Arizona State. The school had issued a release saying the incident was “thoroughly reviewed and investigated in accordance with University policies, appropriate actions were taken and the matter is now closed.”

Jovan Overshown and Cody Hall will serve as Baylor’s co-interim athletic directors, a school spokesman told Rittenberg. Overshown is the school’s deputy athletic director and chief operating officer, and Hall is Baylor’s executive senior associate athletic director for internal administration and chief financial officer.

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The marathon has now become a sprint. Three weeks remain in the regular season and the chaos that has made this one of the more intriguing college football seasons in recent memory is set to deliver a thrilling, potentially chaotic final stretch.

Only three undefeated teams remain — Ohio State, Indiana and Texas A&M have all proven to be not just the cream of the crop but likely College Football Playoff shoo-ins, while behind them, a slew of teams are teetering on a thin line between being in or out.

This week features four ranked matchups that could shift the playoff picture dramatically. No. 9 Notre Dame’s margin for error is zero as it faces a 7-2 Pittsburgh team that is also eyeing a playoff spot — or according to Pat Narduzzi, the ACC championship. Iowa had its dreams dashed by Oregon last week, but now it’ll be USC which faces the No. 21 Hawkeyes in Los Angeles, knowing that if it wins out, USC will likely punch its ticket to its first CFP.

Meanwhile, two-loss, No. 10 Texas has surged back into the playoff picture, only to be faced with having to beat No. 5 Georgia in Athens this week. You can say the same thing about the two-loss, 11th-ranked Sooners; Oklahoma’s own outside shot at a playoff will require a win against No. 4 Alabama in Tuscaloosa this week.

Buckle up. — Paolo Uggetti

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What have Texas, Georgia done well in conference play?

Texas: Texas and Arch Manning appeared to have found a groove in the play-action game, completing 86% of such throws, on 12.1 yards per attempt with three TDs and no interceptions against Vanderbilt versus 64% completion and 7.2 yards per play in the season’s first eight games, according to ESPN Analytics. Manning has eclipsed 300 yards with three touchdowns in each of the past two games, becoming the first Texas QB to do that since Sam Ehlinger in 2018.

Behind an improved offensive line, the Texas offense is much more efficient, and coach Steve Sarkisian praised the growth and maturity of Manning running the offense. But the defense, meanwhile, has struggled as of late. After allowing just 11.3 points per game in the first seven games, they’ve allowed 30 points in back-to-back games. The pass defense has been particularly leaky, allowing 382 yards to Mississippi State and 365 to Vanderbilt. — Dave Wilson

Georgia: Georgia’s defense was its shortcoming earlier this season, but the Bulldogs have played better lately on that side of the ball. After struggling to get off the field on third downs, Florida went only 2-for-11 on third down in Georgia’s 24-20 victory on Nov. 1. Last week, after giving up a touchdown to Mississippi State on its opening possession, the Bulldogs settled down and had three sacks in a 41-21 win. Last season, Georgia defeated Texas twice: 30-15 in Austin in the regular season and 22-19 in overtime in the SEC championship game.

Defense was the primary reason the Bulldogs won both of those games: They had 13 sacks combined and allowed the Longhorns to rush for fewer than 35 yards in each game. The Longhorns were only 2-for-15 on third down in the first loss. Georgia needs to continue to be disruptive on defense, shut down the running game again and get pressure on Manning to get him out of rhythm. — Mark Schlabach


What’s at stake in each matchup?

Iowa-USC: Despite getting dominated on the ground by Notre Dame to the tune of 306 yards in Week 8, USC has not gone away. It only has one conference loss — a two-point heartbreaker against Illinois earlier in the season — and now find itself with a very clear mandate: Win out and the Trojans can all but guarantee the program’s first ever College Football Playoff appearance.

The first obstacle in front of them is Iowa, which comes to Los Angeles after watching its own Big Ten and playoff chances evaporate in a close loss to Oregon. The Hawkeyes could not be more stylistically different than the Trojans and, like they did against Oregon, will try to slow down and muddy the game to their liking. If USC can’t establish a good rhythm on offense, it will have to try and beat Iowa at its own game.

Lincoln Riley’s team has one of the most effective offenses in the nation, leading to at least 30 points scored in all but one game this season. That happened against Nebraska a few weeks ago, but USC was still able to pull out a very Big Ten win with its defense. Chances are, the Trojans will be forced to do the same this Saturday if they want to keep their playoff hopes alive. — Uggetti

Notre Dame-Pitt: Saturday’s showdown between No. 9 Notre Dame and No. 22 Pitt is, oddly enough, bigger for the Irish than the Panthers. As Pitt coach Pat Narduzzi noted in his weekly news conference, Notre Dame can utterly demolish Pitt, but Narduzzi’s squad will still have a ready path to the ACC title game and, thus, a playoff berth. Of course, that’s not a scenario worth counting on, and a win for Pitt would do wonders to erase the stain of a September loss to West Virginia and prop up an ACC desperately in need of something positive to cling to.

For Notre Dame, however, the stakes are far clearer: Its past two games of the season are against awful Syracuse and Stanford teams, making this matchup against Pitt all but a win-and-you’re-in contest for the Irish. The committee has Notre Dame safely in the field now, and it’s hard to envision how a 10-2 Irish team could fall down the playoff ladder, so this is probably the only serious hurdle remaining. It is a hurdle, however, particularly given Pitt’s exceptional pass rush, and if the Panthers can pull off the upset, it would have the opposite effect on Notre Dame, likely ending the Irish’s playoff hopes. — David Hale

Oklahoma-Alabama: Championships and CFP stakes are on the line when the Sooners travel to take on the Crimson Tide. But nobody has to tell either team that, particularly Alabama — which cost itself an at-large berth in the CFP last season after a disappointing 24-3 loss in Norman. During his news conference this week, Alabama coach Kalen DeBoer said he wants the players who played in that game to remember it because “our experiences help us be better the next time around.”

That certainly was the case earlier this year when Alabama beat Vanderbilt and Tennessee — two teams it also lost to a season ago. Alabama quarterback Ty Simpson said he has gotten some advice on this Sooners defense from a good friend — Texas quarterback Arch Manning. Texas beat Oklahoma last month, 23-6, and Manning threw for 166 yards and a touchdown and ran for 34 more. Alabama can clinch a spot in the SEC championship game with a win and losses by Georgia and Texas A&M.

As for Oklahoma, a win over Alabama for a second straight year would only serve to bolster its CFP résumé, particularly because the Sooners remain on the outside looking in for an at-large berth as of now. Though they rank in the top 12, two conference champions — presumably the ACC and the top Group of 5 team — would take the final two spots in the 12-team playoff. Oklahoma had an open date after its win over Tennessee to prepare for Alabama, though coach Brent Venables said there is little carry-over from its result against the Tide last year.

“The season for both of us is impacted by the result at the end of the night,” he said. “Who wouldn’t be excited to play Oklahoma-Alabama? Two of the most iconic programs in college football.” — Andrea Adelson


Why the road to the ACC title game is up for grabs

The ACC is a hot mess, and not in the fun contestant on “Love Island” sort of way. It’s more of the “Oh, no, what if Duke wins the conference championship and they give the playoff berth to James Madison instead?” sort of way.

In other words, these are dark times for the conference.

Set aside that two of the biggest brands in the league — Clemson and Florida State — are floundering through lost seasons.

Set aside that its four highest-ranked teams have all lost to unranked foes in the past two weeks.

Set aside the very real possibility that the eventual league champion might have a loss to UConn, West Virginia or Baylor.

Any one of those items would be bad enough. But it’s the fact that they’re all happening concurrently, that Miami is sabotaging itself again and injuries upended Louisville and Virginia runs, and Pat Narduzzi is waxing poetic about Notre Dame scoring 100 against Pitt — it’s a perfect storm of bad results, bad press and bad options remaining for the ACC.

Look at NC State, a team that’s stuck navigating a disappointing 5-4 campaign in which it lost to woeful Virginia Tech, but also has delivered brutal blows to both Virginia’s and Georgia Tech‘s playoff hopes and could add Miami to that list this weekend. There are no winners here!

There’s an argument that much of this is just a narrative issue, that when the SEC beats up on itself, it’s a testament to the conference’s depth, but when the ACC does it, it means everyone stinks. There’s some truth in that argument. But the results still tell a bleak story. Coming off a 2-11 bowl season in 2024, the ACC now has six losses outside of the Power 4 and a worse record in Power 4 nonconference wins than the American Conference. No wonder the ACC doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt.

So now we peer into the future and wonder what comes next. Georgia Tech has the best odds of winning the league, according to FPI, at 35%. But next up is Duke at 20%. The Blue Devils have losses to Illinois, Tulane and UConn, and if they were to win it all, there’s a good chance the ACC gets passed by a second Group of 5 champion — something the Allstate Playoff Predictor gives a 26% chance of happening. The same might be true if SMU wins it. The Mustangs have the third-best odds at 19.5%, followed by Virginia (13.6%) and Pitt (4%). The highest-ranked ACC team, Miami, has the lowest title odds of teams with a chance to still win it, and has a better chance of making the playoff than the ACC title game.

In other words, the ACC Wheel of Destiny is back in action, Coastal Chaos has spread throughout the entire conference, and the next few weeks will either see a true favorite emerge or ensure the ACC is the most derided power league in recent memory. — Hale


Quotes of the week

“Absolutely not,” Pitt coach Pat Narduzzi said when asked if Saturday’s visit from Notre Dame is a “must-win” game for the Panthers. “It’s not an ACC game. Glad you brought that up. I’d gladly get beat 103 … or 110-10 in that game. They can put 100 up on us as long as we win the next two. Again, our focus is on Notre Dame and getting as many wins as we can.”

“This team didn’t beat Texas,” Georgia’s Kirby Smart said of his Bulldogs, who swept Texas across two meetings in 2024. “And Texas hasn’t played this team of ours. So, two completely different teams in my opinion. I think it has zero effect on it.”

Texas A&M’s Mike Elko on South Carolina’s 2025 schedule, which ranks fourth in strength of schedule nationally, per ESPN’s College Football Power Index: “I don’t know what they did to the scheduling gods to get the schedule that they’ve got.”

“I was told about it. I haven’t heard it,” Oklahoma coach Brent Venables said of Clemson’s Dabo Swinney mimicking his voice over the weekend after Venables visited the program in Week 11. “He’s got me down. He’s got about everybody down. He’s good at the impressions.”

“I’ve actually won a championship and we’re going to do it again,” Florida State’s Mike Norvell said in a passionate defense of his track record and the Seminoles’ trajectory. “We’re going to do it here. That might piss people off. So be it. They’ll be celebrating when we’re hoisting a trophy, and it will be the belief that I see from our players, the belief that I see from our coaches, the talent that I know that our players have, and the guys that are coming to be a part of this.”

“Getting ready for Wake Forest, that’s all I got this week,” said North Carolina‘s Bill Belichick following questions about potential interest in the New York Giants head coaching job.

“Look I’ve been down this road before,” Belichick continued. “I’m focused on Wake Forest, that’s it. That’s my commitment to this team. This week it’s Wake Forest, next week it’s that opponent and so forth. I’m here to do the best for this team.”

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Week 12 best bets: Why points will be hard to come by for Boise State, TCU and UCF

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Week 12 best bets: Why points will be hard to come by for Boise State, TCU and UCF

Week 12 is here, and the board finally feels like it’s talking back. Some totals are whispering, some spreads are screaming and a couple of these games … well, they’re practically sending handwritten invitations.

This week’s card is a mix of unders (been loving my under lately) that make too much sense, a dog that plays like it wants to bite, and a few matchups where the math and the matchup actually agree for once.

Think of it as a little buffet of conviction.

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Bet to make: Boise State team total UNDER 19.5

With Max Cutforth at quarterback, this offense simply loses its punch. His 4.4 yards per attempt and 51% completion rate limits the explosive abilities right now, it’s a unit trying to survive through the run game and short-field drives.

That’s a problem against a San Diego State defense that’s been elite at home. The Aztecs have allowed just 31 total points in their four home games, holding three opponents to seven points or less.

Their front should overwhelm a Boise State offensive line that’s given up 18 sacks on the season breaking in a new QB behind center. Boise State’s run game has been solid, but this matchup flips its strength against San Diego State’s biggest advantage, a front seven that wins early downs and forces third-and-longs.

San Diego State’s methodical pace also limits possessions. The math, the matchup and the trend all align. Boise State’s defense might keep it close, but the offense doesn’t have enough juice to cash this over.


Bet to make: Jacksonville State +3.5

The Gamecocks have found their rhythm with a ground game that is among the best in Conference USA, averaging 252 rushing yards per game at 5.2 yards per carry.

RB Cam Cook has been a steady force, while QB Caden Creel‘s mobility adds another layer that keeps defenses guessing. They don’t rely on big plays as much as they wear teams down with tempo, time of possession and physicality.

That style is exactly what can frustrate a Kennesaw State defense that has been solid overall but has shown cracks against run-heavy offenses late in games.

Jacksonville State has the game to survive close ones. The +3.5 provides cushion in what should be another possession-for-possession battle. If your bankroll allows for a bit more volatility, the +140 money line is worth a look.

Jacksonville State has the formula to control pace and pull off another outright win.


Bet to make: UCF team total Under 10.5

Texas Tech is built to smother teams like UCF. The Knights’ offense is running on fumes, and the matchup in Lubbock feels like walking into a buzzsaw.

The Knights are averaging 11.3 points per game in conference play on the road, with a drop-off that’s been steep from moving the ball between the 20s to completely stalling once they cross midfield. That’s the biggest red flag going up against a Texas Tech defensive front, led by David Bailey and Romello Height, that sits among the best in the country in pressure rate and sacks.

The problem is twofold: protection and finishing. UCF’s offensive line has struggled to handle pressure, and Texas Tech leads the Big 12 in sacks with 29 while leading the country in pressures. When you combine that with UCF’s 32% third-down rate, it paints a picture of a team that’s constantly behind the sticks, forced into long-yardage situations it can’t convert. Even if UCF moves the ball, red zone trips have been few and unproductive.

It’s hard to find a realistic path to 11 points for the Knights. Texas Tech has size, depth and energy at home. UCF’s offense simply doesn’t.


Bet to make: TCU team total Under 23.5

BYU’s entire identity is built on reducing possessions, winning with efficiency and forcing opponents into long fields. Its defense is not elite on a yards basis, but it tightens in the red zone and creates game-changing moments with sacks and interceptions. Add it up, and 21 sacks, 12 interceptions and a positive turnover ratio tell you this defense plays opportunistic football.

The other piece of this is BYU’s offense, which runs for 200 yards per game and controls time of possession. That’s a huge part of why I lean under rather than a side. If BYU plays its game, it shrinks the possessions and keeps opponents to eight or nine true scoring opportunities. TCU needs efficiency to break 24 points. The Horned Frogs haven’t been that team away from home.

BYU’s defense gets the pricing respect. TCU’s total is shaded to the under and BYU is favored because its style travels and its defense sustains it.

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